Fixed Aspect Ratio

StinkyMojo

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When do you guys think nvidia will implement this feature? It does nothing when selected in the control panel.

ATI's latest patch fixes this, I hope nvidia does the same soon.
 

Deinonych

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It works for some people. I have never been able to get it to work with my 8800GTX, though.
 

Lord Banshee

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It worked great with my 7800GT and it works now with my QuadroFX 570M. I've never had it not work.
 

hans007

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hmm, i've had the fixed aspect ratio working for a while now... at least it worked on my 7600gt and 8600gt. havent tried it on my 9600gt since it has a 1:1 setting in the monitor.
 

AzN

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I have this feature but you have to use this patch. http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi...d_adp.php?p_faqid=2064

Also try different resolutions if "force Nvidia scaling" doesn't stick. Once it sticks you can go back to your regular resolution.

Voila you have Fixed aspect ratio.

This works for Vistax86 and WinXP. Didn't test it for Vista 64.
 

SniperDaws

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its always worked for me when using Nvidia cards, its only been ATI cards that didnt work.

Hang on a min, what are you expecting Stinky when you tick the box? because nothing will happen until say you are using a 4:3 res on a 16:10 monitor when gaming.

its just with you saying it does nothing when selecting it.
 

AzN

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not stinky. Stick.

It'll keep reverting back to "use my built in display's built in scaling" instead of "nvidia fixed aspect ratio scaling".

Try lowering the resolution and if it keeps reverting back and click on "nvidia fixed aspect ratio scaling". You have to use the patch above where I linked.
 

Jax Omen

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I'd love to have it working. It's never worked on my girlfriend's 7600GS. Ever.

None of the options do anything, no matter what resolution we choose, it stretches to fill her 1440x900 monitor.

When we upgraded her to the 174.70 drivers, we found that "no scaling" worked... sort of. It displayed the image centered in the monitor with black all around it... still stretched widescreen.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Jax Omen
I'd love to have it working. It's never worked on my girlfriend's 7600GS. Ever.

None of the options do anything, no matter what resolution we choose, it stretches to fill her 1440x900 monitor.

When we upgraded her to the 174.70 drivers, we found that "no scaling" worked... sort of. It displayed the image centered in the monitor with black all around it... still stretched widescreen.

Same story with mine. What brand of monitor? Viewsonic?
 

AzN

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People just seem to ignore everything that was said when I gave links to patch and directions how to get it fixed.
 

StinkyMojo

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Originally posted by: SniperDaws
its always worked for me when using Nvidia cards, its only been ATI cards that didnt work.

Hang on a min, what are you expecting Stinky when you tick the box? because nothing will happen until say you are using a 4:3 res on a 16:10 monitor when gaming.

its just with you saying it does nothing when selecting it.

I'm expecting to play old games such as Starcraft with black borders on the left and right sides.
 

Jax Omen

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She has a cheap Hanns-G.

And yeah, she just wants to be able to play Starcraft pillarboxed.

I've scoured the web, probably put literally 15 hours into finding/trying every fix I can find, nothing works. It's really depressing.

I will *NEVER* buy another monitor that doesn't offer built-in aspect ratio scaling V_V
 

gamepad

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WTF, I had this problem about six months ago, and after a hiatus from gaming I see that this problem still exists on their new driver!

WTF!
 

PingSpike

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There is no reason the monitors should have anything to do with this, so I don't understand what exactly nvidia and ATI (I haven't gotten a chance to try ATI's new implementation, but I know nvidia's does work in all cases...probably because of the monitor used). This should be all that needs to happen for it to work always:

The driver knows the native resolution of monitor, or can be told it.

When the option is set, the driver intercepts any resolution image to send to the monitor , say 1024x768...pastes it onto a black image of the native resolution dimensions and sends that combo to the monitor.

For fixed aspect ratio, it just scales up to the largest dimension, then pastes it and sends that to the monitor.

I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work in all cases, or that it isn't possible? Who cares what the monitor does with other resolutions...just send it native resolution, pre-processed, all the time so the fucking thing can't screw it up. Doesn't the video card just send the frame buffer to the monitor? So just write what it wants to hear in the frame buffer...and who else besides the video card driver can do that?

Frankly, I don't even know why you'd need DVI to make that work.

Its retarded that we're at this point. Almost everyone buying these video cards has an LCD monitor these days. And almost no monitors use a 4:3 aspect ratio! There are a few, but their numbers are dwarfed by the amount of people using 5:4 and 16:10 screens. Few of these screens have scaling options. And yet, here we are...years after their adoption and ATI just barely has finally tried a swing at it and nvidia breaks their half assed implementation as often as they fix it. This isn't some minority game performance issue on a 10 year old title here either...its an issue that affects the majority of their customers across all titles without native support for different aspect ratios. Including newer titles like BF2.

Again, I have not yet tried ATIs new implementation...so maybe they've figured it out? The centered timings option is the only thing available for my x800...it only works on a few resolutions that most games don't use. But I give nvidia no such pass.
 

gamepad

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Is this just Nvidia or is this an unsolvable issue?

I can't believe the latest driver still doesn't natively support fixed aspect ratio for WS monitors...

I'm about to boycott Nvidia. Maybe AMD stocks have a chance after all.