Five years after the Bali bombing, Southeast Asia's leaders are winning the war on terror.

yllus

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A model for 'the long war'

In October, 2002, Islamic radicals set off two powerful bombs on the Indonesian island of Bali. Detonated in the heart of the tourist district, they obliterated several bars and nightclubs, killing over 200 people. It was the worst terrorist attack in the country's history. Shocked and taken aback by the carnage, the international media proclaimed the end of innocence for the tropical retreat.

To anyone who had been paying attention to political developments in Southeast Asia, however, the surprise was misplaced. Well before the Bali bombing, Islamists had turned the region into a front in their global jihad. In the Philippines, the radical group Abu Sayyaf, which allegedly received funding from the brother-in-law of Osama bin Laden, had built itself into a powerfully lethal force. In Indonesia, an even deadlier terror group, Jemaah Islamiah (JI), had also expanded, bombing churches and ultimately putting in motion the Bali plot.

But even after 9/11 and the Bali bombing, the governments of Southeast Asia did little. Indonesia's then-vice president, Hamzah Haz, actually celebrated the 9/11 attacks, announcing his hope that they would help "cleanse America of its sins." The country's president, Megawati Sukarnoputri, barely responded to the carnage in Bali. In the Philippines, Thailand, and Malaysia, governments similarly dithered.

But then, things changed. And in the last few years, the region has served up several important success stories.

This past January, on the southern Philippine island of Jolo, special-forces units of the national army hiked into the thickly forested interior. Relying on intelligence from advisors provided by U.S. special forces and on tips from locals, the soldiers surrounded leaders of Abu Sayyaf and proceeded to blast their mountain hideouts. By the end of the month, nearly all of Abu Sayyaf's commanders had been killed.

In neighbouring Indonesia and Malaysia, security forces have made similar gains. In late 2005, members of an elite Indonesian police unit stormed a small house in the city of Malang. Inside were three key JI bombmakers, including a mastermind of the deadly attack in Bali. Last month, the group suffered yet another blow when Indonesian national police captured both the alleged head of JI's military wing, Abu Dujana, and the organization's alleged acting leader, a man known variously as Zarkasih, Nuaim, Sharoni, Zainuddin and Abu Irsyad,

These victories capped an aggressive counterterrorism campaign waged over the past two years by the governments of the region with the active support of the United States. Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, elected president of Indonesia in 2004, agreed early on that his country faced a serious threat and needed help. With assistance from Malaysia, Australia and the Philippines, his government tracked the Bali bombers and other JI members. Indonesian police captured over 200 suspected terrorists, and their counterparts in Malaysia have made key follow-up arrests.

Co-operation has proceeded on several fronts. Regional governments have formalized their commitment to counterterrorism -- and to working with the U.S. on the problem -- by creating a joint counterterrorism centre located in Malaysia.

No less important, Southeast Asian nations have begun to mount an open challenge to Islamist schools and political parties. In Indonesia, President Yudhoyono has proved to be a strong voice for secularism, thus weakening the appeal of Muslim radicals. In order to emphasize the seriousness of the threat, his government has televised the videos of local suicide bombers and has recruited top Muslim clerics to issue public messages against the Islamists. Jakarta has even employed former terrorists to preach that violence has no place in Islam.

Several factors combined to produce this turnaround. For one, the Islamists overplayed their hand. The wanton destruction of the Bali bombing, which not only killed dozens of locals but also ruined the fabled island's tourist economy, turned many Indonesians against JI. Abu Sayyaf's brutality had a similar effect in the Philippines.

Direct military assistance also has been crucial. Here the U.S. wisely has chosen to play a be-hind-the-scenes role, dispatching advisers, communications technology, and weaponry. In the Philippine military's operation against Abu Sayyaf this past winter, U.S. advisors also helped the Philippine navy keep Abu Sayyaf blockaded on the island of Jolo. When it came time to announce the victory, however, the U.S. maintained a low profile, allowing Philippine President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo to take the credit. In the eyes of the Philippine public, then, the campaign against Abu Sayyaf has remained a local operation.

In Indonesia, Washington helped to create a new 300-man elite counterterrorism force called Detachment 88, spending over US$20-million on its training and equipment. It proved a good investment. Detachment 88 played a major role in dismantling JI's leadership and helped lead the investigations of the Bali and Marriott bombings.

Beyond helping to track and kill terrorists, Washington has promoted economic development in the region and has tried to assist in settling local conflicts that very often have taken on an Islamic cast. In the southern Philippines, the U.S. has built new classrooms, medical clinics, roads, wells and other social-welfare projects, spending over US$250-million in aid since 2001.

There are important lessons to draw from all this: What the United States and its allies have done in the region might well be replicated elsewhere.

For one thing, in Southeast Asia the U.S. moved quickly to help local forces stand on their own; from the start, the struggle against Islamism was a genuinely collaborative effort. Southeast Asian politicians thus have been able to avoid charges of becoming American stooges.

As for direct assistance in fighting the terrorists, the lesson of Southeast Asia is to rely less on military establishments -- which, as in Iraq, have proved to be unreliable and corrupt -- than on specially trained forces such as Detachment 88, cordoned off from ordinary soldiers.

Equally important, Southeast Asia's elite units and police forces have won their victories through dogged investigative work, not by resorting to brutal interrogation techniques. With few reported incidents of abuse or torture, counterterrorism efforts in Southeast Asia continue to have a high standing in public opinion. By contrast, the more coercive tactics of, for example, the Mubarak government in Egypt have tarnished the war on terror and made it easier for Islamists to stir up rage against the U.S. and its Middle Eastern allies.

For all its differences with the struggle in the Middle East, the less-studied "second front" against Islamism, in Southeast Asia, shows that even short-term gains may be enough to silence those who claim that the fight is essentially unwinnable. The dramatic reversal that has taken place in the region in a few short years offers some hope that the dire conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq might yet be turned around.

Quite a few little "lessons" (yes, they should be common sense) to take away from Southeast Asia:

1. Outline the threat in specific, non-rhetorical terms.

2. Don't shield the public's eyes from the nature of the terrorists. Show the full, unedited videos on TV and follow up with commentary from moderate Muslim leaders. I really like the idea of using reformed terrorists in a PR role as well.

3. Talk real costs. At the end of the day, people don't care about "preserving freedom" as much as they do about the billions of taxes needed to prop up Homeland Security and extra security measures at airports, stadiums, public transit stations, etc. Give hard figures. People will remember numbers.

4. Let our foreign partners lead the charge and merely provide assistance. All nations jealously guard their sovereignty, and the U.S. literally leading the way into battle causes much harm to this. As someone who finds nationalism rather silly this is odd to me, but nonetheless apparent.

5. Social projects > soldiers. Obvious enough.

6. Use specially-trained forces for the wet work. This isn't a regular army sort of battle - it takes smaller groups of single-minded fighters to go out and pare down the threat.

7. Use police-like investigative methods to gather intelligence. It's more reliable than information extracted via torture, and not a PR disaster waiting to happen.

The article ends on a rather optimistic note, but even if Iraq and Afghanistan are "lost", hopefully these are things someone has taken note of and will implement the next go-around.
 

StageLeft

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Outline the threat in specific, non-rhetorical terms.
Already lost me. If you can't fashion it into a demagogue, I have no interest in it.
Talk real costs
. Too pragmatic. If you cannot appeal to my emotions, I have no interest.
Social projects > soldiers.
So you don't support the troops? Damn you!
Use police-like investigative methods to gather intelligence. It's more reliable than information extracted via torture, and not a PR disaster waiting to happen.
But they're enemy combatants, we can treat them like sub-humans if we want!
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: Skoorb

Use police-like investigative methods to gather intelligence. It's more reliable than information extracted via torture, and not a PR disaster waiting to happen.

But they're enemy combatants, we can treat them like sub-humans if we want!

The rest of what you wrote was merely amusing, but that one kind of strikes deep. What a terrible misstep to take by the U.S.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: Skoorb

Use police-like investigative methods to gather intelligence. It's more reliable than information extracted via torture, and not a PR disaster waiting to happen.

But they're enemy combatants, we can treat them like sub-humans if we want!

The rest of what you wrote was merely amusing, but that one kind of strikes deep. What a terrible misstep to take by the U.S.
When a person loses a footrace, it's hard to point out exactly which step was the cause; it's really all of them. The enemy combatants myth is just one of many silly approaches taken in this by-definition-unwinnable war on terror.

 

blackangst1

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It's great to see progress in SE Asia. About time, too. Since I first started vacationing there in 1997 or so, there have been travel warnings listed by dept of State. In fact, my 2nd trip to Jakarta (2000 I think) a hotel 2 blocks away from where I was staying was bombed. It really was an eye opener. I've had several scares through the years, but it's nice to see things turning around.

It's interesting to me to see PI Pres Gloria making a public stand against Abu-Sayef...it has been rumored they are in her back pocket by the locals in Mindanau since I started travelling there. Wouldnt suprise me to see assasination attempts for her public statements.

Anyway, nice to see progress :)
 

StormRider

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Good article. I hope we use some of the lessons learned to better fight this war in the future.
 

sandorski

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Yes, good lessons learned, albeit late. From shortly after 9/11 I stated Terrorism was more about Police Actions than Military Actions. Invading Countries is/was an over reaction, although Afghanistan was a reasonable target for invasion.
 

ProfJohn

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Which poster was it that claimed that nearly all Islamic terrorism is Middle East in origin? Guess this sort of disproves that argument.

I don?t think Iraq or Afghanistan is lost in any way shape or form; it will just take longer to make progress in these places.

There are a lot of difference between the Philippines and Indonesia and the Middle East. Lack of ethnic problems, lack of neighboring countries providing interference etc.
 

StormRider

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Yeah, but the trouble-makers are influenced by or follow a particular brand of Islam (Wahabi from Saudi Arabia) that originates from the Middle-East so I agree with the statement that nearly all Islamic terrorism is Middle East in origin.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Which poster was it that claimed that nearly all Islamic terrorism is Middle East in origin? Guess this sort of disproves that argument.

I don?t think Iraq or Afghanistan is lost in any way shape or form; it will just take longer to make progress in these places.

There are a lot of difference between the Philippines and Indonesia and the Middle East. Lack of ethnic problems, lack of neighboring countries providing interference etc.

Perhaps, but the terrorism that happens there is deeply rooted in Islam. Take the Abu Sayef for example. Their name comes from a 7th century Muslim military guy. One of the first organizers of Abu Sayef was a brother or brother-in-law (one of the two cant remember offhand) of Osama bin Laden. So their roots in radical Islamic groups is deep.
 

Jaskalas

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I am skeptical of progress there, but I wish them the best. It would be helpful if there was some way of defining progress. If merely killing a few heads on the hydra of a measure of progress, then we?d already be claiming victory.

Originally posted by: yllus
1. Outline the threat in specific, non-rhetorical terms.

Islam.
 

OokiiNeko

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You are assuming the bombings were for religious reasons as advertised.

Perhaps they were a lesson to some of the island governments that make up Indonesia, and were complaining about taxes paid to the central government, to stay inline.
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Which poster was it that claimed that nearly all Islamic terrorism is Middle East in origin? Guess this sort of disproves that argument.

I don?t think Iraq or Afghanistan is lost in any way shape or form; it will just take longer to make progress in these places.

There are a lot of difference between the Philippines and Indonesia and the Middle East. Lack of ethnic problems, lack of neighboring countries providing interference etc.

You h ave no idea what you are talking about - Indonesia has just as much ethnic issues as Iraq and maybe even moreso. We overplay what goes on in Iraq because it helps to keep it in a state of disarray


Anyways good article yllus.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
I am skeptical of progress there

Translation: "This goes against my ideal that we should fight terrorism by invading countries that have no connection to islamic terrorists hellbent on attacking america. LETS DROP MORE BOMBS YEEEEEEEE HAW!"


 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
I am skeptical of progress there, but I wish them the best. It would be helpful if there was some way of defining progress. If merely killing a few heads on the hydra of a measure of progress, then we?d already be claiming victory.

Why would you be skeptical? Would you not consider that progress?


No less important, Southeast Asian nations have begun to mount an open challenge to Islamist schools and political parties. In Indonesia, President Yudhoyono has proved to be a strong voice for secularism, thus weakening the appeal of Muslim radicals. In order to emphasize the seriousness of the threat, his government has televised the videos of local suicide bombers and has recruited top Muslim clerics to issue public messages against the Islamists. Jakarta has even employed former terrorists to preach that violence has no place in Islam.