First time with 3DMark03, need assistance.

FluxCap

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I am slightly overclocked to 1596 on my XP 1700+.(completely stable in games) I ran the first test fine and my framerate was between 30 and 90. During the second test it ran terrible, stayed between 3 and 5 on framerates and after 45 seconds completely froze my machine. What is wrong?
 

Paveslave

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I'm no expert, but if I'm not mistaken I believe the second test is mainly for your CPU. It stresses the capability of your CPU to push out graphics instead of the video card. This is why your frame rates are a lot lower. I only ran a couple of those tests and that is what I took away from it. This would also explain why your overclocked CPU froze during that specific test, not because it was overclocked, but maybe because it was overclocked too much and the test made it work too hard.
That was my two cents, but I'm sure someone else will probably make me look to be the fool. Like I said, I am no expert. Hope this helps.
 

DaisyCutter

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Yeah,
That sounds normal actually. You really need 2.5gHz from an XP and a Radeon 9500 or better to score decently...With 3.4gHz (P4) and a hot Radeon 9800, I only get 5700 3dmarks.
And as far as the freezing, back down he OC until it stops.
C
 

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Sounds like an unstable overclock to me as well. Start by running the tests@default values for all of your hardware and if it still locks up and temps and voltages for all the rails look good then you have a software/driver conflict to resolve most likely. Do you have the latest catalyst, DX9a, unified 2.03's? How's the CPU temp and voltages for all the rails? Have you tried increasing the Vcore and VDD a bit? Is the overclock P95TT&memtest86 stable? Lot's of stuuf you can do to narrow it down so get busy :D ;)
 

FluxCap

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Going to run a default test when I get home from work.



Do you have the latest catalyst, DX9a, unified 2.03's?

Yes, latest catalyst, yes on DX9a, unified????
 

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Originally posted by: FluxCap
I am slightly overclocked to 1596 on my XP 1700+.(completely stable in games) I ran the first test fine and my framerate was between 30 and 90. During the second test it ran terrible, stayed between 3 and 5 on framerates and after 45 seconds completely froze my machine. What is wrong?

3-5 fps sounds about right, but of course crash doesn't. Try running Prime95 for a long time on your computer to test whether or not it's the CPU that's unstable. (search "prime95" on google)
 

SinfulWeeper

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Originally posted by: clicknext
Originally posted by: FluxCap
I am slightly overclocked to 1596 on my XP 1700+.(completely stable in games) I ran the first test fine and my framerate was between 30 and 90. During the second test it ran terrible, stayed between 3 and 5 on framerates and after 45 seconds completely froze my machine. What is wrong?

3-5 fps sounds about right, but of course crash doesn't. Try running Prime95 for a long time on your computer to test whether or not it's the CPU that's unstable. (search "prime95" on google)

Why not just go to the very first thread in these forums... it will be much quicker and easier ;)
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: FluxCap
Dapunisher,

I am running Win2k

unifieds for w2k
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chizow

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Originally posted by: FluxCap
I have Prime95 installed. What are the best settings for a long test?

There aren't any settings, just go to the third drop down and select "torture". Let it run while you surf the web, listen to music, whatever. The easiest way to tell if your OC is unstable is to clock it to stock speeds and then see if 3DMark2K3 crashes. If it still crashes, then its a driver (video) or heat issue.

Contrary to some of the previous comments, 3DMark2K3 is almost entirely GPU dependent and the 4 "Game" Tests, which account for nearly all of the score barely take into account any CPU/Platform/Chipset/RAM/FSB differences a real-world game would.

I did some pretty extensive testing when 3DMark2K3 and found that a 25MHz GPU overclock has a bigger impact on your score than a 300MHz CPU overclock. This only confirms the scoring methodology which can be found in 3DMark2K3's whitepapers, so its really no big secret.

Chiz
 

FluxCap

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You know what, I think these unified drivers are the same ones that show up on the update list on the windows update page? If so, they reboot my PC every time when they install and I have to reboot in safe mode to fix it. I was going to post it on the abit-usa board but never have.

I ran another test of 3dmark03 and it finished this time. I am sticking with 3dmark01se for now probably. The reason I asked about Prime95 is that I chose the CPU test and it stops after 10 iterations, that right? I just need to select torture and let it gooooo....