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Jaybot · Dec 15, 2003

Hey guys, I always wanted to overclock my 2.8 Ghz p4 on a asus p4c800 mobo but I just don't know how to do it, and how to monitor it

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If any of you guys have done this pls tell me how and any risks or anything involved in it

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I have really no reason to do this, just wanna do it for curiosity cause I've never seen an overclocked cpu before

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pss.
I also have a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 and whenever I set it to run on ccms 2 my center channel works for a while, then it stops :S. Does this problem happen to any of you guys, or is it just that my z-680s and my soundcard are conspiring to drive me insane :|.

-Jay

nick1985 · Dec 15, 2003

raise the front side bus

Jaybot · Dec 15, 2003

Is that really all there is to it, because i've read somewhere that you have to know what voltage to give the cpu and how to reset the bios to its original settings. And do I have to do anything to the ram, or does ram have any play in overclocking at all?

myocardia · Dec 15, 2003

Originally posted by: Jaybot
Is that really all there is to it, because i've read somewhere that you have to know what voltage to give the cpu and how to reset the bios to its original settings. And do I have to do anything to the ram, or does ram have any play in overclocking at all?

Jay, you can overclock quite a bit with stock voltage, but unless you bought fast ram specifically to overclock, you won't be able to OC, unless you set the memory to run slower than the processor's fsb in the bios. You have the choice of either 5:4 or 3:2, which equates to 80% and 66%.

Jaybot · Dec 15, 2003

What do you mean I should have faster ram, can you give me an example

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And how would I go about to make my memory run slower than the processor's fsb in the bios?

myocardia · Dec 15, 2003

Well, assuming your 2.8 is a 2.8C (you never said), you have 400mhz DDR, or PC3200. Faster would be 433mhz (PC3500), 466mhz (PC3700), or 500mhz (PC4000). I believe, from reading other posts, not from experience, that you'll need to set the memory to manual in the bios, and then it will be under Jumperless. Assuming you have PC3200, your memory choices will be 400mhz (1:1, or full speed), 333mhz (5:4) or 266 (3:2).

Jaybot · Dec 15, 2003

ohhhh nice thx for the info

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Hmmm ram seems to play a big role in this, so i'm gonna go and try and get more info on ram and its settings.

Camofrog · Dec 16, 2003

there are many settings that can be adjustedi would sudgest;
set it to manual adjust in BIOS, then start changing things one at a time, and restarting to make sure it is working.
first i would change you fsb prob to ~230 to ~250 is safe,
change your mem freq to 320mhz 5:4 if you are using pc3200, it prob will not like the 400mhz 1:1
memory excel mode = enabled
performance mode= turbo
may need to up voltages but if leave at auto they prob ok
can also change the latency un the "configure dram by SPD' =disable then can adjust them depending on what kind of RAM you have will depend on the stability here but CL 2-3-3-6 prob ok
assuming you are using WinXP i found a interesting thing that even tho i had Hyperthreading tech enabled in BIOS it was not in working in windows, i had to disable it - reboot, windows finds that it has a multiproccessor does its thing - reboot - then enable it and it works fine now.
I would sudgest you DL a program like SISandra to moniter and benchmark so you can figure which configuration works best.

Jaybot · Dec 17, 2003

Ya I have a pc3200 and another thing, how long can u keep a processor overclocked, cause I heard that it can get hot and fry itself.

And how did you find out that your HT wasn't working?

And what do you mean by when you say that my cpu is a 2.8 'C'? I don't really get what the 'C' stands for and how I can find out if mine is a 2.8C :\.

myocardia · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by: Jaybot
Ya I have a pc3200 and another thing, how long can u keep a processor overclocked, cause I heard that it can get hot and fry itself.

And how did you find out that your HT wasn't working?

And what do you mean by when you say that my cpu is a 2.8 'C'? I don't really get what the 'C' stands for and how I can find out if mine is a 2.8C :\.

Okay, P4A's had a 400mhz fsb, P4B's had a 533fsb, and the P4C's have an 800mhz fsb. They didn't make P4A's at 2.8ghz, but I'm pretty sure that they made P4B's at 2.8. Of course, I have used only Athlons for 5 or 6 years now, so I'm not an Intel expert. Intel does have a page devoted to identifying their chipsets, but to use it, you'll need to know your processor's serial number.

edit: Chances are pretty good that if you bought the processor in the last few months, it will be a C, especially if you bought it as a component (not as part of a pre-built system).

Camofrog · Dec 17, 2003

" I would sudgest you DL a program like SISandra to moniter and benchmark so you can figure which configuration works best. "
can get it here..........
sisoft

it very helpfull, but that is how i found out my cpu was not using HT

BladeLeader · Dec 17, 2003

Jaybot, you shouldn't have to worry about resetting the BIOS with your P4P800, ASUS has a feature that I think is called CPU parameter recall, resets your BIOS settings to the last working value if your CPU fails a post. If that doesn't work, just change the jumper on the board (it'll tell you how in your mobo manual) and pop out the battery for about 15 seconds.

Camofrog · Dec 18, 2003

Originally posted by: Jaybot
Ya I have a pc3200 and another thing, how long can u keep a processor overclocked, cause I heard that it can get hot and fry itself. :\.

as long as they have good cooling they wont fry them selves. all thougth overclocking usually does make it so they dont last as long but..........they prob still last a couple years or more which i think you'll probably want to upgrade by then anyway

Jaybot · Dec 19, 2003

myocardia: Ohhhhh, not it all makes sense

. Ya then mine is a 2.8c, cause it has a 800Mhz fsb.

Camofrog: Thnx for the link, I got the software, but I don't know how to find out if my HT is working or not. I went to the CPU & BIOS information, and there is says that HTT - Yes, so I don't know if thats it or not. Also, around how many degrees (celcious) should a CPU be running at?

BladeLeader: Thats a nice little trick

. So I don't really have to worry too much about my bios not starting up at the beginning if I mess up my settings too much.

Camofrog · Dec 19, 2003

well my cpu might run a little cooler than yours but not sure depends...... my comp is in a none heated basement and seems to make a difference for me, but i run at usually 25-28 cel idle (cpu) and barely scrape 41 cel at full load using Prime95 (which you can get here ) just use the torture test. anyway i've heard that 55 cel to 60 cel is about as high as you want to go, but that might be just AMD, P4's are usually cooler, either way. i think the max they can handle is like 90 cel with is alot but that would cause it to jus crap out on ya, P4's have a little protection for that that makes them slow down when they get too hot, until the stop if way! too hot.

let me know how ya do, im running a similar setup
check it \/\/\/

Jaybot · Dec 20, 2003

Oh so you run that program for a while and see whats your cpu temp is at? And btw what is that program?

Camofrog · Dec 22, 2003

Originally posted by: Jaybot
Oh so you run that program for a while and see whats your cpu temp is at? And btw what is that program?

Its a program that runs prime number calculations and uses the cpu to its full potential then it compares what your cpu comes up with and known answers to see if you are having any errors from O/C i ng

Errors can be caused be either memory or cpu if they are set wrong.

So i would also reccomen you get memtest86 to test to make sure your memory isnt failing anywere.

jus read the readme files that go with them & make sure you use them right they are very simple

Camofrog · Dec 22, 2003

oh also about your sound problems ...... from your first post....... you should double check that you have the on-board sound "Disabled" in the BIOS for the P4P800 (since you are using an Audigy like me)

If that doesnt work go into device manager and make sure there arent any conflicts ( IRQ, etc. )

Camofrog · Dec 22, 2003

you may want to check this out about your mobo
toms hardware guide here[/quote]

Camofrog · Dec 22, 2003

"Camofrog: Thnx for the link, I got the software, but I don't know how to find out if my HT is working or not. I went to the CPU & BIOS information, and there is says that HTT - Yes"

Do the CPU arithmatic benchmark and it will tell you it HT was enabled when you scroll down after its done ( it will say yes or have a red X)

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