First retail 6870 photo; now includes full Chinese leaks and Guru3D review discussion

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SlowSpyder

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I think that site is getting hammered... I can't see anything, get a page cannot be displayed when I try. :/ I can't even get to the main page.
 

busydude

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I could just take snaps of 1 benchmark, the website is getting hammered. COD : MW2
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wow overclocking was a joke on the 6870 going from 900/4200 to 954/4344. that's the weakest overclock I have ever seen over standard factory clocks.
 

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From what I saw of the review, things are looking especially good for the 6870. Now we just need to see where the retail prices land.


wow overclocking was a joke on the 6870 going from 900/4200 to 954/4344. that's the weakest overclock I have ever seen over standard factory clocks.

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You just love sharing good news, dontcha. ;)
 

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review says planned price for 6870 is $250, this is similar to $260 of GTX 470 (after the cut). The benchmark looks like they are about the same.

Now, if AMD took a look at nVidia's price cut and further lower 6870 to below $200, that would be nice.
 

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Looks like at stock the 6870 is faster than a GTX 470. I will reserve judgment on overclocking potential until I hear if voltage adjustment is currently possible and other sites results.
 

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From what I saw of the review, things are looking especially good for the 6870. Now we just need to see where the retail prices land.




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You just love sharing good news, dontcha. ;)
news is news and I state the facts whether good or bad. the 6870 looks like a crappy overclocker barely doing 6% so that means if both a gtx460 and 6870 were pushed to their max the gtx460 would almost match the 6870 overall.
 
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wow overclocking was a joke on the 6870 going from 900/4200 to 954/4344. that's the weakest overclock I have ever seen over standard factory clocks.

Yep looks like they forced the stock clocks up to compete with the gtx 470. The 6850 seems to overclock well enough though. But I guess we will have to wait for unlocked voltages for the final results.
 

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Yep looks like they forced the stock clocks up to compete with the gtx 470. The 6850 seems to overclock well enough though. But I guess we will have to wait for unlocked voltages for the final results.
between the 6850 and 6870 I would save 60 bucks and go for the 6850 at this point since it has way more overclocking room. the 6850 and 6870 should be within 10% of each other at max overclocks.
 

busydude

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6850 overclocked pretty well, 775/4000 to 897/4400.

Price according to G3D..

6850- $189
6870- $249
 

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So the only change is in the frontend? No change in the shaders? Doesn't this mean there is a lot of potential waiting for 28nm/Cayman?
 

PingviN

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Getting that close to HD5870... well, that's pretty good indeed. GTX460 just got itself some company.
 

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news is news and I state the facts whether good or bad. the 6870 looks like a crappy overclocker barely doing 6% so that means if both a gtx460 and 6870 were pushed to their max the gtx460 would almost match the 6870 overall.

Yup, you're not incorrect - though that would put the gtx460 in line with the gtx470 performance. My tongue-in-cheek remark was just pointing out how you could grab (perhaps) the one negative of a 23 page article and then post the identical information in two forums. That's all. Just remarking on how fun it is to watch launches and all the flag waving that follows. :) Carry on, my man, carry on!
 

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Yep looks like they forced the stock clocks up to compete with the gtx 470. The 6850 seems to overclock well enough though. But I guess we will have to wait for unlocked voltages for the final results.

Overclocking is a nice perk but still disappointing if other 6870 cards don't overclock well. At the same time it's also impressive they're able to clock the card near it's max limits, perform close to an hd5870, and draw roughly the same amount of power as a gtx460 1 gig.
 

Barfo

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[FONT=verdana,geneva]3D Gaming wise ... AMD waved everything away, and that's where we think AMD HD3D is going to fail.
[FONT=verdana,geneva]There are no kits, there is no real driver support within the Catalyst drivers. You can play games in 3D yet you'll need to actively get support for this yourself. Meaning AMD handed out 3D game support to 3rd party vendors. To get 3D Game support you must buy software from a company like DDD (Dynamic Digital Depth), the software implementation costs 50 USD (temporary priced at 25 USD), this will allow you to play games in 3D. Unfortunately these known methods in the past always have proven to be a little icky with lack of native game support. Next to that you'll need to seek and purchase a 3D Monitor with goggles and/or find a kit that provides these.[/FONT]
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This doesn't look good for people wanting to game in 3d with AMD cards. Luckily I'm not one of those.