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myocardia

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Haha, I knew there was one more thing I forgot: to upgrade a Mac in any way besides adding memory (which a complete newbie can do, even to a laptop, so that doesn't even count) and adding/upgrading a hd, the only way to upgrade a Mac is to try to sell it, so you can buy a new one with the feature you want. No wonder Apple is still in business! I'll try to remember to work on PhotoShopping together a picture in the next day or two, if someone with a P4 doesn't beat me to it, after reading this thread.:D
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: MDE
...or pay for an incremental OS upgrade (10>10.1). Microsoft would be burned at the stake for pulling something like that.
Bill Gates would have bullets flying at his head, instead of pies!

edit: Anyone but me think we've gotten a little off topic? Sorry about that, Dave.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: MDE
...or pay for an incremental OS upgrade (10>10.1). Microsoft would be burned at the stake for pulling something like that.
Bill Gates would have bullets flying at his head, instead of pies!

edit: Anyone but me think we've gotten a little off topic? Sorry about that, Dave.

It's better than people measuring their bits and pieces by siting benchmarks and articles and white papers to prove they're right and someone else is wrong...
 

MDE

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: MDE
...or pay for an incremental OS upgrade (10>10.1). Microsoft would be burned at the stake for pulling something like that.
Bill Gates would have bullets flying at his head, instead of pies!

edit: Anyone but me think we've gotten a little off topic? Sorry about that, Dave.
Nonsense, this thread was marked for threadjacking :p.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: MDE
Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: MDE
...or pay for an incremental OS upgrade (10>10.1). Microsoft would be burned at the stake for pulling something like that.
Bill Gates would have bullets flying at his head, instead of pies!

edit: Anyone but me think we've gotten a little off topic? Sorry about that, Dave.
Nonsense, this thread was marked for threadjacking :p.

... also for double posting :D Everyone point and laugh! hehe
 

chsh1ca

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Myocardia... you make the pics and I'll gladly post them as long as they don't violate the forum rules =) No nude pics of Carrot-Top, lol.
*Shudders* That violates more than just forum rules, I think it violates several articles of the Geneva Convention. Btw, I will get to gimping and see if I can whip up some Pro-Intel piccys.

Edit:
Ok, so the first couple ideas sucked, but this was what I came up with so far (yes, it is pretty lame):
Cure yourself of Impotent AMD! Get INTEL!
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Sid59
i thought it was funny.

for the anal .. i own an AMD and Intel rig.
That's what I also plan on doing. First I still have to get some CAS 2 ram for this rig (I paid a fortune for this ram, but it's PC3700, because I was going to build a P4C rig, and I already know that this ram will run @2.5-3-3-6 at 240fsb, 1:1) and an NF7-S for it, so I can put this 8RDA3+ in my daughter's system. She's going to have this not-too-shabby XP2400 that has been doing 10.5x212.5 @1.80v actual for about 9 or 10 months now. Anyway, I'd love to grab a 3.0C and an IC7 with a 460w Enermax psu. Pretty sweet, in my opinion.:D
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: chsh1ca
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Myocardia... you make the pics and I'll gladly post them as long as they don't violate the forum rules =) No nude pics of Carrot-Top, lol.
*Shudders* That violates more than just forum rules, I think it violates several articles of the Geneva Convention. Btw, I will get to gimping and see if I can whip up some Pro-Intel piccys.

Edit:
Ok, so the first couple ideas sucked, but this was what I came up with so far (yes, it is pretty lame):
Cure yourself of Impotent AMD! Get INTEL!

Mmmm... that's just not as funny... hmmmm... what do Intel fanboys make fun of AMD for... how about... a picture of a P4 next to an Athlon XP or 64 and put a little speech bubble coming from the P4 saying "trying to make up for something with the size of your substrate?"

Or...

or for a non-biased one... put a picture of a P4 next to an Athlon XP, and have the speech bubble coming from the AXP saying "ok, I showed you mine, now you show me your's" (the core, hehe)

Or...

hmmmm... I can't think of anything else
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: chsh1ca
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Myocardia... you make the pics and I'll gladly post them as long as they don't violate the forum rules =) No nude pics of Carrot-Top, lol.
*Shudders* That violates more than just forum rules, I think it violates several articles of the Geneva Convention. Btw, I will get to gimping and see if I can whip up some Pro-Intel piccys.

Edit:
Ok, so the first couple ideas sucked, but this was what I came up with so far (yes, it is pretty lame):
Cure yourself of Impotent AMD! Get INTEL!
I'm thinking it violates every article of the Geneva Convention, most of the Middle East peace treaties, and maybe some portions of the United States Constitution.:D And you just need to work Viagra into the mix somehow with this pic. Maybe "Cure yourself of impotence with ViagraTel" or something along those lines. Vintel, maybe? Everyone recognizes those blue pills, anyway, since they love to show them on tv...
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: chsh1caMmmm... that's just not as funny... hmmmm... what do Intel fanboys make fun of AMD for... how about... a picture of a P4 next to an Athlon XP or 64 and put a little speech bubble coming from the P4 saying "trying to make up for something with the size of your substrate?"

Or...

or for a non-biased one... put a picture of a P4 next to an Athlon XP, and have the speech bubble coming from the AXP saying "ok, I showed you mine, now you show me your's" (the core, hehe)

Or...

hmmmm... I can't think of anything else
That's the one!! (in bold)
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: myocardia
You know, there are obviously fanboys of both camps around here. What I don't understand is why those of you who are on the Intel side don't love the sh*t out of AMD. Haven't any of you been using computers long enough to remember when the fastest Intel chip went for over $1,000 and six months later, when they finally produced one faster, the the now-next-fastest cpu barely went down in price at all. Intel's slowest processor available at the time (they're obviously all too slow to use for anything buy keychains now) was ~2/3 the price of the fastest, because Intel owned the market. It stayed that way until AMD finally came out with the original Athlon. A 500 mhz Athlon would wipe the floor with a 600+mhz PIII in everything, including media encoding, so Intel had to start dropping their prices slightly. It took the Barton first, then finally the A64 to come out, before Intel's chip's finally became reasonable priced on a price/performance scale. Anyway, I can guarantee every one of you that if AMD went out of business tomorrow, as soon as the stocks of AMD chips were all sold, the prices you would have to pay for ANY Intel chip, including a Celeron would double, if not triple. So actually, these AMD fanboys are doing you a favor by buying AMD's chips. They're keeping them in business, and you can still buy whatever chip you wish to buy, even if that's a ~$1,000 3.4EE. And before you respond to this AMD fanboy's post, look at a little of the advice I give to people who are considering a whole new system. I'm thinking I recommend P4 more than anything else, if the person's need fit a P4.


well said. I have no idea why they buy Intel still after taking it up the coolo so long. Also, It just bleeds stupidity to spend more money for same performance. IMO. I mean a watch, car or anything with a touch/feel/sense of style/ I can understand but chip? I don't get it. We buy memory based on price/performance alone why not processors and video cards. Oh well.

I don't spend too much...I buy a low super overclocker and jack it up...So in the long run I am saving casholla.....Find me a Barton chip (at the time I bought my 2.4c was the best out) that would have for the cost at the time equalled this 3.5ghz oc'd ofcouse....Try hard!! I don't game and I had a 2500+@3200+ right along side of it and it got its ASS_HANDED to it.....NOt even close even when I ran it at 2.3ghz with 1.7v....In the apps I run my 2.4ghz stock was faster in some of the apps versus the 2500+@3200+......

If I didn't OC I would agree I would likely would buy amd chips in the recent past....Hence why I did for my family and friends....

I bought the best out there at the time....


I am not a fanboy....I buy, recoomend and built AMD systems for 4 family members and 2 friends in the last 8 months, purchased my workstation at work as an AMD...Only Intel system was my own and my centrino work laptop....

I am far less of a fanboy then most of you AMD users...I run both...I may buy an opteron for my startup company...I go for the best at the best price...


I find the AMD humor lame in this case only cause the implications that intel ripped off amd's 64bit is defamation. You magically intelligent 12-21 year olds who likely mommy and daddy gave you the cash to buy your pc seem to think a processor is desgned in 1year or less...News flash!!! It takes years and only thing Intel will have of likeliness of the amd 64bit cpu is th code because they are being forced to by Microsoft who does not wish to write for another version of a cpu...seems reasonable.....No ripoff here and it is just the type of thing ppl not knowing all the specifics of buy hook line and sinker and spread about...The internet is by the way the best source of FUD and misinformation, many of which seems to originate from the likes of ppl here....

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: myocardia
You know, there are obviously fanboys of both camps around here. What I don't understand is why those of you who are on the Intel side don't love the sh*t out of AMD. Haven't any of you been using computers long enough to remember when the fastest Intel chip went for over $1,000 and six months later, when they finally produced one faster, the the now-next-fastest cpu barely went down in price at all. Intel's slowest processor available at the time (they're obviously all too slow to use for anything buy keychains now) was ~2/3 the price of the fastest, because Intel owned the market. It stayed that way until AMD finally came out with the original Athlon. A 500 mhz Athlon would wipe the floor with a 600+mhz PIII in everything, including media encoding, so Intel had to start dropping their prices slightly. It took the Barton first, then finally the A64 to come out, before Intel's chip's finally became reasonable priced on a price/performance scale. Anyway, I can guarantee every one of you that if AMD went out of business tomorrow, as soon as the stocks of AMD chips were all sold, the prices you would have to pay for ANY Intel chip, including a Celeron would double, if not triple. So actually, these AMD fanboys are doing you a favor by buying AMD's chips. They're keeping them in business, and you can still buy whatever chip you wish to buy, even if that's a ~$1,000 3.4EE. And before you respond to this AMD fanboy's post, look at a little of the advice I give to people who are considering a whole new system. I'm thinking I recommend P4 more than anything else, if the person's need fit a P4.


well said. I have no idea why they buy Intel still after taking it up the coolo so long. Also, It just bleeds stupidity to spend more money for same performance. IMO. I mean a watch, car or anything with a touch/feel/sense of style/ I can understand but chip? I don't get it. We buy memory based on price/performance alone why not processors and video cards. Oh well.

I don't spend too much...I buy a low super overclocker and jack it up...So in the long run I am saving casholla.....Find me a Barton chip (at the time I bought my 2.4c was the best out) that would have for the cost at the time equalled this 3.5ghz oc'd ofcouse....Try hard!! I don't game and I had a 2500+@3200+ right along side of it and it got its ASS_HANDED to it.....NOt even close even when I ran it at 2.3ghz with 1.7v....In the apps I run my 2.4ghz stock was faster in some of the apps versus the 2500+@3200+......

If I didn't OC I would agree I would likely would buy amd chips in the recent past....Hence why I did for my family and friends....

I bought the best out there at the time....


I am not a fanboy....I buy, recoomend and built AMD systems for 4 family members and 2 friends in the last 8 months, purchased my workstation at work as an AMD...Only Intel system was my own and my centrino work laptop....

I am far less of a fanboy then most of you AMD users...I run both...I may buy an opteron for my startup company...I go for the best at the best price...


I find the AMD humor lame in this case only cause the implications that intel ripped off amd's 64bit is defamation. You magically intelligent 12-21 year olds who likely mommy and daddy gave you the cash to buy your pc seem to think a processor is desgned in 1year or less...News flash!!! It takes years and only thing Intel will have of likeliness of the amd 64bit cpu is th code because they are being forced to by Microsoft who does not wish to write for another version of a cpu...seems reasonable.....No ripoff here and it is just the type of thing ppl not knowing all the specifics of buy hook line and sinker and spread about...The internet is by the way the best source of FUD and misinformation, many of which seems to originate from the likes of ppl here....

Wow dude, you need to get a sense of humour. The shoe is on the other foot now(heat issues) and the AMD fans are just getting a kick out of it.
 

cowdog

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Well, the link in the original post definately gave me a chuckle or three. I was expecting some multi-core, super-tech, boring picture ...


And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh.

--Friedrich Nietzsche:
 

chsh1ca

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Originally posted by: Duvie
I find the AMD humor lame in this case only cause the implications that intel ripped off amd's 64bit is defamation.
The implication from the image isn't that it's a ripoff, but that Intel is simply rebadging Athlon-64s and selling them as P4Es. Intel and AMD have a technology sharing agreement, which is how the Athlon-64 and Opteron have SSE2, and how Intel is able to use the instruction set.

You magically intelligent 12-21 year olds who likely mommy and daddy gave you the cash to buy your pc seem to think a processor is desgned in 1year or less..
Redesigning a processor is a lot different than adding support for a specific set of instructions. From what I understand, the key thing the P4E will be missing is the doubled register count that the Athlon-64 has in 64-bit mode (though I could be mistaken about that). In addition to that, you seem to fail to understand that the spec for AMD64 has been around for a number of years, not just one since the Opteron's introduction. Remember those 800MHz Opterons shown at Comdex in like, 2002?

News flash!!! It takes years and only thing Intel will have of likeliness of the amd 64bit cpu is th code because they are being forced to by Microsoft who does not wish to write for another version of a cpu.
You failed to mention microsoft is already working on an Itanium2 version of the same operating system, and they said no to Intel, who wanted them to write a THIRD version so Intel could break compatibility. Luckily for consumers everywhere, AMD had enough of a head start with AMD64 that Microsoft dictated to Intel that there would be no forking of X86.

seems reasonable.....No ripoff here and it is just the type of thing ppl not knowing all the specifics of buy hook line and sinker and spread about...The internet is by the way the best source of FUD and misinformation, many of which seems to originate from the likes of ppl here....
As another poster said, you need to relax, chill, and have a laugh.

Chris, 24, bought and paid for every single component in this box with my own hard-earned cash.
 

Davegod

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I think the joke is about intel following AMD's lead on several counts recently. Especially using amd's 64bit (or at least something rather similar), and at first they made a point of omitting anything about it being AMD technology they were adopting (look around for Linuis Torvald's critisim about this). This goes double because intel are pretty much doing a u-turn on what they said by intrododucing a 64bit desktop cpu at all. On top of that theyre starting to use model numbers for the mobile chips, and so on.

Like all good jokes it's based loosely on facts, but is nothing to take literally and especially not seriously, and you really need to get out more if you find it offensive or, lol, defamatory.