First married Catholic priest

[AnitaPeterson]

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/08/22/spain.priest.ap/

I'd say this deserves a lot of attention... there might be changes looming ahead in the Catholic tradition.

If this trend continues, the unity of Christian churches might one day become a reality.

 

[bamacre]

What unity of Christian churches?

You think this is unity?

Seventh-day Adventist
Advent Christian
Church Church of God (Adventist)
Primitive Advent Christian Church
The African Orthodox Church
Amana Church Society
American Evangelical Christian Church
Anglican Orthodox Church
Apostolic Christian Church (Nazarean)
Apostolic Christian Church of America
Apostolic Faith Church
Apostolic Overcoming Holy Church of God
Armenian Churches
American Baptist Churches in the USA
Southern Baptist Convention
Black Baptists
American Baptist Association
International Baptist Bible Fellowship
Baptist General Conference
Baptist Missionary Association of America
Bethel Ministerial Association
Central Baptist Association
Christian Unity Baptist Association
Conservative Baptist Association of America
Duck River Associations of Baptists
Evangelical Free Baptist Church
Free Will Baptists
General Baptists
General Association of Regular Baptist Church
General Conference of the Evangelical Baptist
Landmark Baptists
National Baptist
Evangelical Life and Soul Saving Assembly (USA)
Primitive Baptist Convention of the USA
North American Baptist Conference
Primitive Baptists
Reformed Baptists
Separate Baptists in Christ
Seventh Day Baptist General Conference
2-Seed-in-the-Spirit Predestination Baptist
United Baptists
United Free Will Baptists
Berean Fundamental Church Bible Fellowship Church
Bible Protestant Church
World Wide Bible Way Church
Church of the Brethren
Fellowship of Grace Brethren Churches
Old German Baptist Brethren
Plymouth Brethren
Brethren in Christ
Old Order of Yorker Brethren
United Zion Church
Church of United Brethren in Christ
United Christian Church
Christadelphians
The Christian and Missionary Alliance
Christian Catholic Church
Disciples of Christ Christian Church of North America
Churches of Christ
Christian Congregation
Christian Nation Church
Christian Union
Christ's Sanctified Holy Church
Church of Christ (Holiness)
Church of Christ Scientist
Church of God (Apostolic)
The (Original) Church of God, Inc.
Church of God (Anderson, Indiana)
Church of God (Seventh Day)
Church of God and Saints of Christ
Church of God by Faith, Inc.
Church of God in Christ
Church of God in Christ (International)
Church of Illumination
The Church of Jesus Christ
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Church of Christ (Temple Lot)
Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonites)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Strangites)
Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ-Apostolic Church
Churches of Christ in Christian Union
Churches of God
Churches of God Holiness
Churches of the Living God
Congregational Christian Churches
Congregational Holiness Church
Conservative Congregation Christian Conference
Albanian Orthodox
American Carpatho-Russian Orthodox Greek
Catholic American Holy Orthodox
Catholic Apostolic Eastern Church
Antiochian Orthodox Christian Church
Bulgarian Eastern Orthodox Church
Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church
Greek Orthodox Church
Holy Apostolic and Catholic Church
Holy Orthodox Churches in America
Romanian Orthodox Episcopate of America
Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
Serbian Eastern Orthodox Church in the USA
Syrian Eastern Orthodox Church
Ukrainian Orthodox Churches
Episcopal Church
Reformed Episcopal Church
Evangelical Christian Churches
Evangelical Church of North America
Evangelical Congregational Church
Evangelical Covenant Church of America
Evangelical Free Church of America
Federated Churches
Fire Baptized Holiness Church
Fire Baptized Holiness Church (Wesley)
Free Christian Zion Church of Christ
Friends General Conference
Friends United Meeting Religious Society of Friends
General Conference of the Swedenborgian
Grace Gospel Fellowship
Independent Churches
Independent Fundamental Churches
International Church of Foursquare Gospel
Jehovah's Witnesses
American Lutheran Church
Lutheran Church in America
Apostolic Lutheran Church of America
Church of the Lutheran Brethren of America
Church of the Lutheran Confession
Evangelical Lutheran Synod
The Association of Lutheran Congregations
The Lutheran Church
Missouri Synod Protestant Conference (Lutheran)
Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod
Beachy Amish Mennonite Churches
Church of God in Christ (Mennonite)
Conservative Mennonite Conference
Evangelical Mennonite Brethren Conference
Evangelical Mennonite Church General Conference
Mennonite Church
Hutterian Brethren
Mennonite Brethren Church of North America
Mennonite Church Old Order Amish Mennonite Church
Old Order (Wisler) Mennonite Church
Reformed Mennonite Church
Unaffiliated Mennonites
The United Methodist Church
African Methodist Episcopal Church
African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
African Union First Colored Methodist
Protestant Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
Congregational Methodist Church
Cumberland Methodist Church
Evangelical Methodist Church
First Congregations Methodist Church
USA Free Methodist Church of North America
Fundamental Methodist Church, Inc.
Independent African Methodist Episcopal Church
New Congregational Methodist Church
People's Methodist Church
Primitive Methodist Church
Reformed Methodist Union
Episcopal Reformed Zion Union
Apostolic Church
Southern Methodist Church
Union American Methodist Episcopal Church
Metropolitan Church Associations
Missionary Church
Moravian Church
Unity of the Brethren
National David Spiritual Temple of Christ Church
New Apostolic Church of North America
American Catholic Church
American Catholic Church (Syro-Antiochian)
Mariavite Old Catholic Church
North American Old Roman Catholic Church
Old Roman Catholic Church
America Open Bible Standard Churches
Assemblies of God
Calvary Pentecostal Church, Inc.
Elim Fellowship Pentecostal Church
Emmanuel Holiness Church (Pentecostal)
Independent Assemblies of God-International
International Pentecostal Assemblies
Pentecostal Assemblies of the World
Pentecostal Church of Christ
Pentecostal Church of God
Pentecostal Fire-Baptized Holiness Church
Pentecostal Free-Will Baptist Church
Pentecostal Holiness Church
United Pentecostal Church
International Pillar of Fire Church
Polish National Catholic Church of America
United Presbyterian Church
Presbyterian Church
The Presbyterian Church in America
Association Reformed Presbyterian Church
Bible Presbyterian Church
Cumberland Presbyterian Church
Second Cumberland Presbyterian Church
Orthodox Presbyterian Church
Reformed Presbyterian Church
Evangelical Synod Reformed Presbyterian Church
Reformed Church in America
Christian Reformed Church
Hungarian Reformed Church in America
Netherland Reformed Congregations
Protestant Reformed Churches in America
Reformed Church in the United States
Roman Catholic Church

 

[T3C]

Ehh, makes no diffrence really.

 

[bamacre]

And I'd like to add that I think married Catholic priests is a good thing. Alcoholism due to lonliness is the biggest problem among Catholic priests.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

bamacre, I'm not talking about "pocket churches" and "club churches", like most of the ones you post. I'm talking about the two largest branches in Christianity: Orthodox and Catholic. The fragmentation of the Protestant and neo-Protestant rites has less to deal with ecumenic differences than with personal ambitions stemming from their various "leaders" and "founders" - even Luther himself would be in shock to see them today.

 

[herkulease]

can someone explain to me why catholic priest aren't allowed to marry?

I mean to me if they were married it give them even more leg to stand on when they preach family values and other things.

I'm not religious or anything but it seems odd for an unmarried person to be the one doing the talking about this when they've never had to deal with the various things that go with marriage.

 

[Pantoot]

Originally posted by: herkulease
can someone explain to me why catholic priest aren't allowed to marry?

I mean to me if they were married it give them even more leg to stand on when they preach family values and other things.

I'm not religious or anything but it seems odd for an unmarried person to be the one doing the talking about this when they've never had to deal with the various things that go with marriage.

One of the church's explanation would be that they want the priest to hold nothing to be above God. The fear would be that when the church needed someone in BFE, the wife of the priest would argue against the move. Any decision the priest would have to make would have to take into consideration the family of the priest. As it is now, the church owns an unmarried priest.

Which brings us to the real reason. An unmarried priest has no property and no obligation. If a priest buys a house, that house goes back to the church. If a priest were to marry, the widow/legacy of the priest would get this land, as it stands now, it is all the church's.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: bamacre
And I'd like to add that I think married Catholic priests is a good thing. Alcoholism due to lonliness is the biggest problem among Catholic priests.

If it keeps them from molesting boys then it is a good thing.

That has been a big problem especially in the U.S.

 

[Vic]

Zimbabwe-born Evans David Gliwitzki, who has two daughters aged 30 and 40, was ordained Sunday in the town of La Laguna on the island of Tenerife by Bishop Felipe Fernandez, leading daily El Pais said.

This is not news, except that it took place on the Spanish-owed Canary Islands. The Catholics have been allowing married priests in Africa for decades, due to the cultural system there in which nephews are more likely to inherit than sons (and inheritence is the reason why Catholic priests are not permitted to marry).

And I strongly disagree with your statement regarding "pocket churches" and "club churches," and ignoring Protestantism as an important branch of Christianity.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: bamacre
What unity of Christian churches?

You think this is unity?

Seventh-day Adventist
Advent Christian
Church Church of God (Adventist)
Primitive Advent Christian Church
The African Orthodox Church
Amana Church Society
American Evangelical Christian Church
Anglican Orthodox Church
Apostolic Christian Church (Nazarean)
Apostolic Christian Church of America
Apostolic Faith Church
Apostolic Overcoming Holy Church of God
Armenian Churches
American Baptist Churches in the USA
Southern Baptist Convention
Black Baptists
American Baptist Association
International Baptist Bible Fellowship
Baptist General Conference
Baptist Missionary Association of America
Bethel Ministerial Association
Central Baptist Association
Christian Unity Baptist Association
Conservative Baptist Association of America
Duck River Associations of Baptists
Evangelical Free Baptist Church
Free Will Baptists
General Baptists
General Association of Regular Baptist Church
General Conference of the Evangelical Baptist
Landmark Baptists
National Baptist
Evangelical Life and Soul Saving Assembly (USA)
Primitive Baptist Convention of the USA
North American Baptist Conference
Primitive Baptists
Reformed Baptists
Separate Baptists in Christ
Seventh Day Baptist General Conference
2-Seed-in-the-Spirit Predestination Baptist
United Baptists
United Free Will Baptists
Berean Fundamental Church Bible Fellowship Church
Bible Protestant Church
World Wide Bible Way Church
Church of the Brethren
Fellowship of Grace Brethren Churches
Old German Baptist Brethren
Plymouth Brethren
Brethren in Christ
Old Order of Yorker Brethren
United Zion Church
Church of United Brethren in Christ
United Christian Church
Christadelphians
The Christian and Missionary Alliance
Christian Catholic Church
Disciples of Christ Christian Church of North America
Churches of Christ
Christian Congregation
Christian Nation Church
Christian Union
Christ's Sanctified Holy Church
Church of Christ (Holiness)
Church of Christ Scientist
Church of God (Apostolic)
The (Original) Church of God, Inc.
Church of God (Anderson, Indiana)
Church of God (Seventh Day)
Church of God and Saints of Christ
Church of God by Faith, Inc.
Church of God in Christ
Church of God in Christ (International)
Church of Illumination
The Church of Jesus Christ
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Church of Christ (Temple Lot)
Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonites)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Strangites)
Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ-Apostolic Church
Churches of Christ in Christian Union
Churches of God
Churches of God Holiness
Churches of the Living God
Congregational Christian Churches
Congregational Holiness Church
Conservative Congregation Christian Conference
Albanian Orthodox
American Carpatho-Russian Orthodox Greek
Catholic American Holy Orthodox
Catholic Apostolic Eastern Church
Antiochian Orthodox Christian Church
Bulgarian Eastern Orthodox Church
Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church
Greek Orthodox Church
Holy Apostolic and Catholic Church
Holy Orthodox Churches in America
Romanian Orthodox Episcopate of America
Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
Serbian Eastern Orthodox Church in the USA
Syrian Eastern Orthodox Church
Ukrainian Orthodox Churches
Episcopal Church
Reformed Episcopal Church
Evangelical Christian Churches
Evangelical Church of North America
Evangelical Congregational Church
Evangelical Covenant Church of America
Evangelical Free Church of America
Federated Churches
Fire Baptized Holiness Church
Fire Baptized Holiness Church (Wesley)
Free Christian Zion Church of Christ
Friends General Conference
Friends United Meeting Religious Society of Friends
General Conference of the Swedenborgian
Grace Gospel Fellowship
Independent Churches
Independent Fundamental Churches
International Church of Foursquare Gospel
Jehovah's Witnesses
American Lutheran Church
Lutheran Church in America
Apostolic Lutheran Church of America
Church of the Lutheran Brethren of America
Church of the Lutheran Confession
Evangelical Lutheran Synod
The Association of Lutheran Congregations
The Lutheran Church
Missouri Synod Protestant Conference (Lutheran)
Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod
Beachy Amish Mennonite Churches
Church of God in Christ (Mennonite)
Conservative Mennonite Conference
Evangelical Mennonite Brethren Conference
Evangelical Mennonite Church General Conference
Mennonite Church
Hutterian Brethren
Mennonite Brethren Church of North America
Mennonite Church Old Order Amish Mennonite Church
Old Order (Wisler) Mennonite Church
Reformed Mennonite Church
Unaffiliated Mennonites
The United Methodist Church
African Methodist Episcopal Church
African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
African Union First Colored Methodist
Protestant Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
Congregational Methodist Church
Cumberland Methodist Church
Evangelical Methodist Church
First Congregations Methodist Church
USA Free Methodist Church of North America
Fundamental Methodist Church, Inc.
Independent African Methodist Episcopal Church
New Congregational Methodist Church
People's Methodist Church
Primitive Methodist Church
Reformed Methodist Union
Episcopal Reformed Zion Union
Apostolic Church
Southern Methodist Church
Union American Methodist Episcopal Church
Metropolitan Church Associations
Missionary Church
Moravian Church
Unity of the Brethren
National David Spiritual Temple of Christ Church
New Apostolic Church of North America
American Catholic Church
American Catholic Church (Syro-Antiochian)
Mariavite Old Catholic Church
North American Old Roman Catholic Church
Old Roman Catholic Church
America Open Bible Standard Churches
Assemblies of God
Calvary Pentecostal Church, Inc.
Elim Fellowship Pentecostal Church
Emmanuel Holiness Church (Pentecostal)
Independent Assemblies of God-International
International Pentecostal Assemblies
Pentecostal Assemblies of the World
Pentecostal Church of Christ
Pentecostal Church of God
Pentecostal Fire-Baptized Holiness Church
Pentecostal Free-Will Baptist Church
Pentecostal Holiness Church
United Pentecostal Church
International Pillar of Fire Church
Polish National Catholic Church of America
United Presbyterian Church
Presbyterian Church
The Presbyterian Church in America
Association Reformed Presbyterian Church
Bible Presbyterian Church
Cumberland Presbyterian Church
Second Cumberland Presbyterian Church
Orthodox Presbyterian Church
Reformed Presbyterian Church
Evangelical Synod Reformed Presbyterian Church
Reformed Church in America
Christian Reformed Church
Hungarian Reformed Church in America
Netherland Reformed Congregations
Protestant Reformed Churches in America
Reformed Church in the United States
Roman Catholic Church

lmao

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
bamacre, I'm not talking about "pocket churches" and "club churches", like most of the ones you post. I'm talking about the two largest branches in Christianity: Orthodox and Catholic. The fragmentation of the Protestant and neo-Protestant rites has less to deal with ecumenic differences than with personal ambitions stemming from their various "leaders" and "founders" - even Luther himself would be in shock to see them today.

Are you talking about eastern orthodox and roman catholic or roman catholic and protestant?

 

[imported_yetti]

Originally posted by: bamacre
And I'd like to add that I think married Catholic priests is a good thing. Alcoholism due to lonliness is the biggest problem among Catholic priests.

not to mention diddling little boys.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: bamacre
And I'd like to add that I think married Catholic priests is a good thing. Alcoholism due to lonliness is the biggest problem among Catholic priests.

If it keeps them from molesting boys then it is a good thing.

That has been a big problem especially in the U.S.

:roll:

That is completely irrelevent to the topic. But I wouldn't expect you of all people to understand that, or much of anything else either.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: yetti

Originally posted by: bamacre
And I'd like to add that I think married Catholic priests is a good thing. Alcoholism due to lonliness is the biggest problem among Catholic priests.

not to mention diddling little boys.

See post above.

 

[Vic]

Leftists love attacking the Catholic church because their communism is a competitor for the same type of power over the people (that the church once had). Marx didn't say that "religion is the opiate of the people" in order to attack religion, but to explain the relationship that comunists should seek to emulate.

 

[Spamela]

married Anglican priests who became Catholic priests
are rare, but have been around for awhile.

eastern rite Catholic priests may be married as long as
the marriage occurs prior to ordination.

 

[MadRat]

Originally posted by: Spamela
eastern rite Catholic priests may be married as long as
the marriage occurs prior to ordination.

Nothing bars a married man from becoming a preist, they are just encouraged to become deacons instead because it is less of a burden on a family. There have been married Americans - that are also Roman Catholics - take the pledge of celibacy and then go on to become preists. It is just so much easier to take the deacon route and the job is much less demanding.

 

[MisfitsFiend]

eastern rite Catholic priests may be married as long as
the marriage occurs prior to ordination.

Very true - I was just about to post this!