First Impressions

jpeyton

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After the first few days with some new gear, here are my thoughts:

D300

The autofocus is a revelation compared to consumer level DSLRs. On the D300, the 51 AF points cover nearly the entire midsection of the viewfinder. Low light AF is great, even on sensors at the extreme edges. AF speed depends on the lens you're using; my AF primes focus very fast, but my AF-S kit lens can be a little slower. High-end AF-S lenses should be very fast (wish I had a 70-200mm VR to test it with :)).

Resolution is incredible. To be honest, when I moved from my D50 (6MP) to my D80 (10MP), I actually thought many of my photos looked LESS sharp on the D80. So I didn't expect the difference going from 10MP to 12MP to be easily noticeable, but it is. It might have a little to do with the more accurate AF system, but I think the move to CMOS + the much improved image processing system has more to do with it. Even with the in-camera sharpening set low (or turned off), I don't feel the need to apply sharpening in PS or Lightroom as much.

Ergonomics are slightly disappointing in some areas. The dial that selects the shooting mode has a lock button that needs to be depressed anytime you change the setting, but it's a little awkward to operate with one hand. I would prefer a lock on/off switch instead with a clicky dial. The camera is noticeably bigger and heavier than my D80; I'll probably pick up a neoprene hand strap so it's easier to carry. Some of the buttons and switches are slightly too small or too flush against the body to easily change (especially if you have big hands/fingers). This could have been done on purpose to make "accidental" changes hard to do. The new multi-selector dial is a huge improvement; it's accurate and soft (my D80's dial was way too stiff).

The software interface and menus are deep, and confusing unless you read the manual. I would say about 30% of the options resemble something I've seen before on my D80, but a LOT of new settings to learn too. The good thing is that there are custom settings 'banks', which save a group of settings to the memory. You can save several different groups of settings and change between them quickly, so you're not digging around in the menu each time your shooting situation changes. Browsing photos, zooming in/out, etc., is instantanous, and the new high resolution LCD really deserves all the praise its getting. It's bright (even outside) and displays color/exposure very accurately.

MB-D10

I was a little skeptical first, especially with the price (about $230 on Amazon, $270 retail). I've used the MB-D80 and MB-D200 in the past, so I'm familiar with Nikon's battery grips, and wondered why they were charging so much for this one. Now that I have it installed, it's worth every penny.

Improvements from previous battery grips are immediately noticeable. One big change is that you no longer need to remove the internal battery to install the grip, and you can choose which order the camera drains the batteries. Construction is magnesium alloy, just like the D300 body, and the grip feels just like the one on the camera body...huge improvement from the high-grade plastic they used in the past. The vertical shutter feels the same to me (some people say it is slightly more sensitive). Another huge plus is a second multi-selector dial they added on the grip, which you can operate while it is oriented vertically.

Ergonomically, it adds a varying amount of weight. Slightly more weight when unloaded; a little heavier when you load an EN-EL3e battery. Much heavier when you load it with 8xAA, which is what I'm using (8xAA Sanyo Eneloops). Battery life hasn't been fully tested yet, but the 8xAA NiMH + the internal EN-EL3e should be good for 2,500 shots at minimum with heavy use; probably over 4,000 shots with average use. Detailed battery drain information is only available for EN-EL3e batteries; AA batteries give you a simple battery level gauge.

One important thing is that the grip distributes the weight of the camera across your entire palm, which produces less strain in my hand. The choice to move the battery loading slot to the side of the grip (instead of on the back like previous grips) makes the grip feel even more solid because you're only gripping solid metal/rubber, and not plastic. The fit is solid; feels like part of the body.

18-55mm VR "Kit" Lens

Not many impressions yet, since I just got this last night. VR is giving me about a ~2 stop improvement. Build quality is much better; the plastic feels more solid, and they gave it a finish that exactly matches the alloy body of the D300. Zoom ring is stiffer than the original 18-55mm (not the second version); focusing feels slightly slower than the original version too, and its a little noisier when focusing (high-pitched noise).
 

fuzzybabybunny

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How much did you get it for again?

Uggg... I'm sorely in need of a second body :(

You make me want a pro body just for the huge field of AF points alone...
 

jpeyton

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For everything (body, grip, lens), just under two. Not cheap. Sold my D50, D80, and whittled down my collection of lenses to fund it. Worth it? Absolutely. Like I said, the move from the D50 to D80 felt like a hop, and the move from the D80 to D300 feels like a leap (in terms of IQ). But you have to invest some time into the camera and your photographic skills to realize that difference. I'm sure if I handed a D80 and D300 to my mother (who is about as technophobic as they come), she would get similar results from both.

Judging by your work, I think you would maximize the potential of any piece of equipment you use. Is your 30D giving you any trouble? You play around with a 40D at all?
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
For everything (body, grip, lens), just under two. Not cheap. Sold my D50, D80, and whittled down my collection of lenses to fund it. Worth it? Absolutely. Like I said, the move from the D50 to D80 felt like a hop, and the move from the D80 to D300 feels like a leap (in terms of IQ). But you have to invest some time into the camera and your photographic skills to realize that difference. I'm sure if I handed a D80 and D300 to my mother (who is about as technophobic as they come), she would get similar results from both.

Judging by your work, I think you would maximize the potential of any piece of equipment you use. Is your 30D giving you any trouble? You play around with a 40D at all?

The 30D's not giving me too much trouble, but I'd like a backup nonetheless. Since my XT died I've felt a little bit vulnerable because I don't have a backup body. I'd really like to upgrade to a pro body though for the added focus points. The 30D only has 9, which IMO can be close to useless at times, ESPECIALLY when it misses focus and the lens does a complete cycle of in/out focus which causes me to miss a shot waiting for the lens to cycle through. Also the focus points that are the furthest from the center can be more or less useless in low light.

I haven't looked at a 40D that much, but IMO it's not a spectacular improvement at all from the 30D. Once I get some money I plan to move up to a minimum of a 1D or 1Ds, or the 5D if it has a lot of focus points and weathersealing. No more XX0D or X0D series for me...

I'll probably try and add a 70-200mm f/2.8L IS and the 17-40mm f/4L.

Or take a very hard and sincere look at Nikon. I mean, 2K for the D300 body AND grip is NOT bad if you compare with what Canon has to offer at that price...
 

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: jpeyton
For everything (body, grip, lens), just under two. Not cheap. Sold my D50, D80, and whittled down my collection of lenses to fund it. Worth it? Absolutely. Like I said, the move from the D50 to D80 felt like a hop, and the move from the D80 to D300 feels like a leap (in terms of IQ). But you have to invest some time into the camera and your photographic skills to realize that difference. I'm sure if I handed a D80 and D300 to my mother (who is about as technophobic as they come), she would get similar results from both.

Judging by your work, I think you would maximize the potential of any piece of equipment you use. Is your 30D giving you any trouble? You play around with a 40D at all?

The 30D's not giving me too much trouble, but I'd like a backup nonetheless. Since my XT died I've felt a little bit vulnerable because I don't have a backup body. I'd really like to upgrade to a pro body though for the added focus points. The 30D only has 9, which IMO can be close to useless at times, ESPECIALLY when it misses focus and the lens does a complete cycle of in/out focus which causes me to miss a shot waiting for the lens to cycle through. Also the focus points that are the furthest from the center can be more or less useless in low light.

I haven't looked at a 40D that much, but IMO it's not a spectacular improvement at all from the 30D. Once I get some money I plan to move up to a minimum of a 1D or 1Ds, or the 5D if it has a lot of focus points and weathersealing. No more XX0D or X0D series for me...

I'll probably try and add a 70-200mm f/2.8L IS and the 17-40mm f/4L.

Or take a very hard and sincere look at Nikon. I mean, 2K for the D300 body AND grip is NOT bad if you compare with what Canon has to offer at that price...

40D does have quite improved AF compared to 30D as it's even got all cross type AF points in the corner, not to mention its light sensitive defocusing system.
Even if you jump on 1D, 1DS, 5D, you won't have AF points filling up the viewfinder as 300D because those are not 1.5 cropped sensor cameras (As you probably know D300 uses same AF module as D3 thus having AF points spread all over the
viewfinder)


 

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Awesome camera.

I'm still very happy with my D80, and I don't think I'm close to pushing its capabilities, so I'll hold off & see what Nikon do with the D90, and where it slots in the price 'bracketing' game Nikon (both to their own, and consumers benefit, imo).

 

jpeyton

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I have no doubt the D90 will impress and will make a lot of people upgrade. Just make sure you try to sell your D80 before the flood of used ones hit the market. Body only used D80s are going for ~$600 right now.
 

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I'll probably be one of the people buying a D90. But darnit, for $2k a D300 & MB-D10 is almost a steal.

About the locking frame advance mode dial at the top-left of the body, it's far better to have it. Case in point: I was shooting a lacrosse game with a D1H & AF-S 400mm f/2.8, and my D50 & AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8. The 1.5x400 was great for reaching across the field and for tight shots, but the game was tied with only a few seconds left so I pulled up the D50+70-200, focused, and hit the shutter at the perfect time for a shot of the game-winning goal. Then upon image review, I saw that it was blown out by several stops. I had inadvertently edged the Shooting Mode Dial from Aperture Priority which metered at about 1/2000s f/4, to Manual which was set at 1/250s f/4. I was very pissed at myself for not setting the Manual mode to get an approximately correct exposure.