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First hydraulic hybrids in the form of garbage trucks

http://blog.wired.com/cars/index.blog?entry_id=1543505
Garbage trucks will be the first commercial hydraulic hybrids on the streets next year. Truck manufacturer Peterbilt is building trucks based on technology developed at the EPA's National Vehicle and Fuel Emissions Laboratory, according to the interesting piece in the Wall Street Journal.

The trucks will get 30 percent better gas mileage by capturing energy from braking and using it to compress nitrogen instead of charging batteries.

A hydraulic system, using pistons to capture the wasted energy by compressing nitrogen gas stored in a tank, can capture as much as 75% of the wasted energy. When the nitrogen is allowed to expand, it pushes hydraulic fluid that helps the engine turn the rear wheels.


The EPA was close to developing an 80 mpg hydraulic hybrid car, but the Bush Administration killed the program in 2001. Thanks W! In 2004, the EPA was working on a hybrid SUV with Ford, which quit to license Toyota's technology. However, the WSJ forgot to mention that a hybrid car developed in the 1970s was killed by the EPA.

So hydraulic hybrid technology may give electric hybrids competition, at least for larger vehicles.

It is interesting that we have the DOE funding hybrid development for energy reasons, and the EPA developing its own technology out of concerns for reducing emissions. We really need to streamline resources and have a single program.
Sounds pretty neat to me. I know they were considering some hybrid system that would improve HUMVEE, maybe this would be a better solution?
 
There was an article in Popular Science about this. It's already in testing on two UPS trucks I think.
 
I can see this being LUDACRISLY effective in stop-and-go vehicles with very large rolling weights - like garbage trucks and school buses. Highway vehicles, not so much.
 
Originally posted by: JonTheBaller
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
ugh and they loose some credibility by making it sound like Ford bought their hybrid crap from Toyota.
They did...

No they didn't. Ford developed their own stuff but Toyota beat them to it and had patents on alot of it already. Ford licensed some of Toyotas stuff to avoid lawsuits but use their own stuff.
 
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Originally posted by: JonTheBaller
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
ugh and they loose some credibility by making it sound like Ford bought their hybrid crap from Toyota.
They did...

No they didn't. Ford developed their own stuff but Toyota beat them to it and had patents on alot of it already. Ford licensed some of Toyotas stuff to avoid lawsuits but use their own stuff.

Too bad, they could have made some decent vehicles if they bought from toyota 😛.
puts on flamesuit.
 
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Originally posted by: JonTheBaller
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
ugh and they loose some credibility by making it sound like Ford bought their hybrid crap from Toyota.
They did...

No they didn't. Ford developed their own stuff but Toyota beat them to it and had patents on alot of it already. Ford licensed some of Toyotas stuff to avoid lawsuits but use their own stuff.
So the article was correct in stating that Ford licensed hybrid technology from Toyota. Glad we cleared that up.
 
Originally posted by: JonTheBaller
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Originally posted by: JonTheBaller
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
ugh and they loose some credibility by making it sound like Ford bought their hybrid crap from Toyota.
They did...

No they didn't. Ford developed their own stuff but Toyota beat them to it and had patents on alot of it already. Ford licensed some of Toyotas stuff to avoid lawsuits but use their own stuff.
So the article was correct in stating that Ford licensed hybrid technology from Toyota. Glad we cleared that up.

Yes correct but it wasn't a needed statement and was only put in there to take a jab at Ford and the way they worded it made it sound as if Ford couldn't develop their own hybrid technology. It seemed to work on you. It keeps getting brought up over and over and over again and gets knocked down by both Toyota and Ford but new articles keep popping up that Ford had to buy their tech from Toyota. Just get tired of seeing it. They never bother to bring up that Toyota in turn licensed diesel and direct-injection tech from Ford.
 
Originally posted by: Xanis
There was an article in Popular Science about this. It's already in testing on two UPS trucks I think.

Thats what I thought of too. Doesn't that negate this article?
 
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