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first hand experience of recent toyota woes-READ if you have 06-07 V6 toyota/lexus!!!

evident

evident

Lifer
My GF got a used CPO 2007 Lexus RX350 this year w/ 30k miles on it. everything was great, till today she calls me up and tells me that on her way home her car made a weird noise, and now the car is leaking oil in the garage!!!!!

she's owned this thing for about 10000 miles with no problems and told me she didn't go over any crazy bumps or anything today. wtf could have possibly happened?


update:
basically it's a problem where a vvt-i oil hose cracks and all the oil just gets dumped out of the engine. and it's been a known problem for years .

looks like toyota/lexus issued a *limited* recall a few weeks ago for this problem and she was gonna take it in until this happened. go figure.
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=61594




UPDATE:

I know the floormat/gas pedal issue has been in the news lately, but that seems like a BS recall in the first place with some idiot with walmart floor mats.
This oil pipe problem has been under the radar from the media and certainly affects many toyota/lexus vehicles.
Here's basically a summary of the problem and a timeline of what's been going on with this engine. Toyota should have issued a recall for this at least a year ago.


PSA: IF ANYONE HAS A 2GR-FE V6 ENGINE (MOST 06-07ish camry, avalon, rav4, rx350 owners) CHECK THIS LINK IMMEDIATELY. They may or may not have contacted you!!!!
http://sites.google.com/site/toyotav6oillinescandal/



UPDATE:
Bridgewater Lexus seems to have treated her very nice. they cleaned up the oil spill , lifted the car up and showed her exactly what they changed, showed her that the piece of the redesigned metal hose and not a new old defective hose. They told her that they examined the engine for any cracks or pieces and none were found, and they drove it for 20 miles without any problems. Compared to all the other horror stories regarding this semi-recall, she was treated very nice respectfully, and they gave her a loaner the entire time.
hopefully there won't be anymore recalls regarding this engine or any other part in her vehicle!!!
 
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CPO and 10k miles...should still be under warranty, no? Can you elaborate at all on "weird noise"?
 
aleckz said:
The accelerator went and attacked the oil pan.
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haha I did LOL

Anyway to answer OP weird noises plus leaking oil = bring that bitch in (the car not your GF) and get warranty to cover it. Unless it doesn't drive that is 😉 You may want to call stealership FIRST to tell them what's up. That way if they say drive it in and the engine seizes half way there you can say you did what they told you to do. Otherwise THEY can tow it in on THEIR dime.
 
Skoorb said:
haha I did LOL

Anyway to answer OP weird noises plus leaking oil = bring that bitch in (the car not your GF) and get warranty to cover it. Unless it doesn't drive that is 😉 You may want to call stealership FIRST to tell them what's up. That way if they say drive it in and the engine seizes half way there you can say you did what they told you to do. Otherwise THEY can tow it in on THEIR dime.
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lexus is towing it in themselves. it seems like they are going to take care of the issue and have been really cooperative so far.
 
The early 3.5L V6 (2GR-FE from 2005-2007?) has a known issue with the VVT-i oil feed line busting; that's the most likely cause of the sudden oil leak.

There are two high pressure steel oil lines joined by a rubber hose that run up to feed oil to the VVT-i cam phaser. The rubber hose at a bend rubs on the engine. The recall replaces it with a single solid line.

At any rate, don't drive it. Get it on a flat bed to the dealer and get it repaired under recall/warranty.
 
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avalon w/ the same problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQMR6pquwZQ

wow. I hope there is no damage to the engine, from what i heard it seems like she didnt drive it for long after the oils was drained. i dont know though. Toyota needs to step it up with their recalls. it's been pretty ridiculous with them as of late.

edit: actually, looks like toyota/lexus issued a recall a few weeks ago for this problem and she was gonna take it in until this happened. go figure.
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=61594
 
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Should be ok. Even 1 quart low is fine and can look like a lot when it's on the ground.

Good thing you caught it when it first started.
 
I really think the dealership needs to look at the engine for damage. I think she drove the car for at least a few miles without any oil in it, because she heard a funny noise coming from the engine, which leads me to suggest that the cylinder walls have been scraped.

I dont know much about cars as well as many people on this forum, but would this be a correct assessment? How would we know if the dealer actually spent time looking at the engine? They will at the least do the recall fix, but I am beginning to worry that they may not even bother taking apart the engine, observing the cylinder walls etc to make sure everything is OK. if there is some permanent damage, im afraid it wouldn't show up until many years later, perhaps after the warranty expires.
 
Most likely they will not tear the whole engine apart to do any inspection. They'll probably do the recall fix, top off the oil and a quick test drive. If they hear anything I'm sure they'll let you know. Whatever happens I'm sure they'll take care of you. That's why you paid the big $ for.
 
evident said:
I really think the dealership needs to look at the engine for damage. I think she drove the car for at least a few miles without any oil in it, because she heard a funny noise coming from the engine, which leads me to suggest that the cylinder walls have been scraped.

I dont know much about cars as well as many people on this forum, but would this be a correct assessment? How would we know if the dealer actually spent time looking at the engine? They will at the least do the recall fix, but I am beginning to worry that they may not even bother taking apart the engine, observing the cylinder walls etc to make sure everything is OK. if there is some permanent damage, im afraid it wouldn't show up until many years later, perhaps after the warranty expires.
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I too am not an expert, but the noise might be the lifters running dry.
 
i believe they fixed the oil line problem on my dads es350, only got a notification about the pedal but no action

not sure if they did the rubber fix, or metal
 
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evident said:
. . . I am beginning to worry that they may not even bother taking apart the engine, observing the cylinder walls etc to make sure everything is OK. if there is some permanent damage, im afraid it wouldn't show up until many years later, perhaps after the warranty expires.
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Sell the car before the warranty expires. :twisted:
 
Squisher said:
I too am not an expert, but the noise might be the lifters running dry.
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Yeah the whole valvetrain of any OHC engine will sound like ass when the oil is low. It's usually a tickety/clattery noise. I can tell this noise immediately, and when I hear it, I suggest to whomever has the car to check their oil. 99 times out of 100, it's low on oil (if it's a newer car, older worn out cars can make that noise even at the best of times).
 
Arkaign said:
Yeah the whole valvetrain of any OHC engine will sound like ass when the oil is low. It's usually a tickety/clattery noise. I can tell this noise immediately, and when I hear it, I suggest to whomever has the car to check their oil. 99 times out of 100, it's low on oil (if it's a newer car, older worn out cars can make that noise even at the best of times).
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What does that have to do with OHC designs? A lot of them use solid lifters (most hondas, many toyotas, probably others but those are the ones I've worked with personally). I personally have not seen a honda, even a newer one, that has hydraulic lifters, and they've all had overhead cams.

My personal car has hydraulic lifters and makes ticking sounds if it doesn't like the oil thats in it, even when (the oil is) new.
 
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