First drive --- Tesla Roadster.

zoiks

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Cool looking car. 0-60 in 3.9s.
According to the reviewer..
"I'm being eerily teleported down the barrel of a rail gun, head pulled back by a hard, steady acceleration. Bizarre. And before too long, profoundly humbling to just about any rumbling Ferrari or Porsche that makes the mistake of pulling up next to a silent, 105-mpg Tesla Roadster at a stoplight."

I hope the company survives with all the transmission problems they've been having. Word is that they're looking for someone to buy the startup company out.

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Uhtrinity

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82

I cannot believe they are calling that a solution. Completely swapping out the entire drivetrain?

BTW, 220 volts/70 amps, that's a lot of juice.

I also hope that they get all the bugs worked out. Btw, the Insight can pull up to 100 amps at 144v. The Prius pack is closer to 200v's and should have a similar current draw. The difference is that they can't do it for long periods due to the lack of liquid cooling. My Insights pack is cooled by a low cfm 80 or 90 mm fan.
 

Viper GTS

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Oct 13, 1999
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It's obviously fast, and it looks nice, but if I had $100,000 to spend on a sports car it would be nowhere near my top choice. Fast is only a part of the sports car thrill, & it will be a while before people are going to be willing to part with the rip & snort of a traditional sports car.

Viper GTS
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
It's obviously fast, and it looks nice, but if I had $100,000 to spend on a sports car it would be nowhere near my top choice. Fast is only a part of the sports car thrill, & it will be a while before people are going to be willing to part with the rip & snort of a traditional sports car.

Viper GTS

No kidding, you could buy a Lotus Exige S for about half that and pocket $40k for gas money.
 

Aharami

Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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seems like cool little car but I kinda agree with Viper. If I spend 100K on a sports car, I want it to sound like a sports car. Would I buy this (if I had 100K to spend on a car) as my first sports car? Probably not. But probably as my 2nd sports car.
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
It's obviously fast, and it looks nice, but if I had $100,000 to spend on a sports car it would be nowhere near my top choice. Fast is only a part of the sports car thrill, & it will be a while before people are going to be willing to part with the rip & snort of a traditional sports car.

Viper GTS

It's probably not for those with $100k to spend on a sports car.

It's for those who have a non-specified budget to spend on yet another toy in their absolutely HUGE stable of toys.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
It's obviously fast, and it looks nice, but if I had $100,000 to spend on a sports car it would be nowhere near my top choice. Fast is only a part of the sports car thrill, & it will be a while before people are going to be willing to part with the rip & snort of a traditional sports car.

Viper GTS

No kidding, you could buy a Lotus Exige S for about half that and pocket $40k for gas money.

Repeat after me: "max torque at zero rpm."
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aharami
seems like cool little car but I kinda agree with Viper. If I spend 100K on a sports car, I want it to sound like a sports car. Would I buy this (if I had 100K to spend on a car) as my first sports car? Probably not. But probably as my 2nd sports car.

Just put in some exhaust sounds in your cd player and turn it up real loud when you accelerate.
 

SearchMaster

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Jun 6, 2002
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I think this is one of the most exciting cars in recent history.

Like it or not, 'alternative fuel' vehicles are a necessity. I'm not saying that non-gasoline cars will replace the ICE in my lifetime, and I am not an environmentalist tree-hugger by any stretch, but I do believe that we (as a global society) must investigate at least the possibility of these alternatives. How excited would you be about a 100K electric SUV, or family sedan? Probably not very excited. But here you have a real-life production car that is at least interesting.
 

dwcal

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Jul 21, 2004
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Originally posted by: SearchMaster
I think this is one of the most exciting cars in recent history.

Like it or not, 'alternative fuel' vehicles are a necessity. I'm not saying that non-gasoline cars will replace the ICE in my lifetime, and I am not an environmentalist tree-hugger by any stretch, but I do believe that we (as a global society) must investigate at least the possibility of these alternatives. How excited would you be about a 100K electric SUV, or family sedan? Probably not very excited. But here you have a real-life production car that is at least interesting.

:thumbsup: Regardless what you think of global warming, oil is a finite resource, and we need to plan for a future where oil is too expensive to burn. Lithium ion batteries are expensive now. To get useful range out of a battery pack, you'll need about $25K worth of battery cells at current prices.

If you want to sell a 100K car to early adopters, you need something more exciting than a commuter car. So premium-priced + lightweight body = sports car. The max torque at 0 rpm doesn't hurt either. It's clearly aimed at early adopters, the people with money to spend and want to be the first with new tech (remember $8000 plasma TVs?).
 

AdamK47

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
It's obviously fast, and it looks nice, but if I had $100,000 to spend on a sports car it would be nowhere near my top choice. Fast is only a part of the sports car thrill, & it will be a while before people are going to be willing to part with the rip & snort of a traditional sports car.

Viper GTS

It's probably not for those with $100k to spend on a sports car.

It's for those who have a non-specified budget to spend on yet another toy in their absolutely HUGE stable of toys.

So, when are you getting one?
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: AdamK47
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
It's obviously fast, and it looks nice, but if I had $100,000 to spend on a sports car it would be nowhere near my top choice. Fast is only a part of the sports car thrill, & it will be a while before people are going to be willing to part with the rip & snort of a traditional sports car.

Viper GTS

It's probably not for those with $100k to spend on a sports car.

It's for those who have a non-specified budget to spend on yet another toy in their absolutely HUGE stable of toys.

So, when are you getting one?

It's too big to fit in with my other HotWheels(tm).
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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Personally I'm very intrigued by this car. The idea of a dead silent rocketsled appeals to me-kind of like a sailplane on the ground. The odds are stacked overwhelmingly against this company making it, but I wish them the best. If the Powerball comes through for me I sling a deposit down on one.
 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
It's obviously fast, and it looks nice, but if I had $100,000 to spend on a sports car it would be nowhere near my top choice. Fast is only a part of the sports car thrill, & it will be a while before people are going to be willing to part with the rip & snort of a traditional sports car.

Viper GTS

No kidding, you could buy a Lotus Exige S for about half that and pocket $40k for gas money.

Repeat after me: "max torque at zero rpm."

Repeat after me: "3.5 hours to recharge."

I'm all for the company and for investigation into new technology, but it's just not viable yet.

ZV
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
Aug 23, 2007
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
It's obviously fast, and it looks nice, but if I had $100,000 to spend on a sports car it would be nowhere near my top choice. Fast is only a part of the sports car thrill, & it will be a while before people are going to be willing to part with the rip & snort of a traditional sports car.

Viper GTS

No kidding, you could buy a Lotus Exige S for about half that and pocket $40k for gas money.

Repeat after me: "max torque at zero rpm."

Repeat after me: "3.5 hours to recharge."

I'm all for the company and for investigation into new technology, but it's just not viable yet.

ZV

Great commuter
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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i wonder what the real world "MPG" will be considering that many people will floor the throttle - which i imagine would reduce mileage considerably.
 

AmigaMan

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Oct 12, 1999
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
It's obviously fast, and it looks nice, but if I had $100,000 to spend on a sports car it would be nowhere near my top choice. Fast is only a part of the sports car thrill, & it will be a while before people are going to be willing to part with the rip & snort of a traditional sports car.

Viper GTS

No kidding, you could buy a Lotus Exige S for about half that and pocket $40k for gas money.

Repeat after me: "max torque at zero rpm."

Repeat after me: "3.5 hours to recharge."

I'm all for the company and for investigation into new technology, but it's just not viable yet.

ZV

so here's what you do. Go out and buy a ton of those solar powered calculators, pry them apart and wire the solar cells together and glue them to the body of the car. Connect the wires to the batteries and voila! :)