First Drive: 2004 Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon

[NFS4]

First Drive: 2004 Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon

😛

 

[Fatdog]

I don't think I'll be dumping my 5.9 Dakota for that thing anytime soon.

 

[Viperoni]

ugly

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Fatdog
I don't think I'll be dumping my 5.9 Dakota for that thing anytime soon.

Thats like saying forget that Honda Civic, not enough for me to give up my Corvette. THEY ARE IN DIFFERENT CLASS'S!!!


"With 220 hp, the optional 3.5-liter engine gives the Colorado and Canyon the highest horsepower rating in the class..."


But of course its a GM product so it MUST suck

 

[Fatdog]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Fatdog
I don't think I'll be dumping my 5.9 Dakota for that thing anytime soon.

Thats like saying forget that Honda Civic, not enough for me to give up my Corvette. THEY ARE IN DIFFERENT CLASS'S!!!


"With 220 hp, the optional 3.5-liter engine gives the Colorado and Canyon the highest horsepower rating in the class..."


But of course its a GM product so it MUST suck

No, the Dakota is in the same class. "The highest horsepower rating in it's class" applies to trucks with the V6. Yes it has more power than the Dakota V6, but not with the V8.

Having the power way up in the rpm range is really handy too. Not!

 

[vi edit]

Having the power way up in the rpm range is really handy too. Not!

Depends entirely on use. GM has taken a stance on it's "compact" trucks. They are utlilty vehicles now. Basically cars with beds. They aren't intended to tow things at all. For that you have full size trucks. You get good gas milage and good power at passing RPM's where most cars have it.

You can't compare these to the 5.9 dakota which is a compact truck with a full size engine. GM never intended them to be that.

 

[Spoooon]

I like it. 🙂

 

[Fatdog]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

....You can't compare these to the 5.9 dakota which is a compact truck with a full size engine. GM never intended them to be that.

I agree, which brings me back to my post. My Dakota fills my needs nicely. I tow and haul things in the bed from time to time, and having the V8 is nice for that.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Having the power way up in the rpm range is really handy too. Not!

Depends entirely on use. GM has taken a stance on it's "compact" trucks. They are utlilty vehicles now. Basically cars with beds. They aren't intended to tow things at all. For that you have full size trucks. You get good gas milage and good power at passing RPM's where most cars have it.

You can't compare these to the 5.9 dakota which is a compact truck with a full size engine. GM never intended them to be that.

Well, people are still gonna be cross-shopping Dakotas and Colorado's b/c they're in the same basic price class and roughly the same size. GM can call the new pickups whatever they want, but bigger is usally better these days when it comes to trucks.

One thing that competitors can do to "trump" GM with "unknowledeable" customers is to play on the V6 factor. All they have to do is tout their "UBER" V6's against GM's "PUNY" 5-cylinder engines. Higher is better, right?😉

Doesn't matter though. GM will find themselves between a rock in a hard place when the new Frontier/Tacoma/Dakota get here. They made the mistake of benchmarking their truck against the current generation of these vehicles instead of the next-gen ones.

Those aforementioned vehicles are more than like to get the VQ V6 (Frontier), new 4.0 liter 245HP V6 from the 4-Runner (Tacoma), and retain the 4.7 liter V8 (Dakota)

 

[Ladies Man]

my dad's friend was driving one last week... nice to be on the inside with gm.

He loves the truck. The I5 is incredibly smooth and the interior is comfortable... He said it's the best small sized truck he's been in.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Dear fvcking god redesign the interior for christ's sake! It's a brand new truck - its the same ugly as sin box interior.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Dear fvcking god redesign the interior for christ's sake! It's a brand new truck - its the same ugly as sin box interior.

From what I've heard and read about the truck, the interior is the worst part about it.

 

[RU482]

anyone heard any speculation about being able to fit the I6 4200 in this truck? I would assume they will have to up the ante when the competition all comes out with mondo power mid/compact trucks

 

[NFS4]

Well, just like I said...Part 1 of Colorado/Canyon ownage has already been served up 😛

2005 Nissan Frontier

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/frontier.shtml
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1178344

The 4.0 liter V6 is based on the VQ block 😀 And it's American made!!! 😀

2005 Nissan Frontier

Engine 4.0-liter DOHC V6
250-plus horsepower
270-plus lb-ft torque
(Final figures will be announced closer to production)

Available 2.5-liter DOHC inline 4-cylinder (King Cab only)

Transmission 5-speed electronically controlled automatic or 6-speed manual

Frame Fully boxed, all-steel (F-Alpha frame, based on the Nissan Titan)

Drive configuration Front engine/4x2 or 4x4
Available part-time four-wheel drive system with electronically controlled 2-speed transfer case
Available Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC)
Available advanced off-road traction system

Suspension Double-wishbone front suspension with coil-over shock absorbers, stabilizer bar
Rigid leaf rear suspension

Steering Power-assisted rack-and-pinion

Brakes 4-wheel vented disc brakes with Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) with Electronic Brake force Distribution (EBD)


Wheels/Tires Up to 17-inch/265/65R17

Wheelbase 125.9 inches

Length 205.5 inches

Width 72.8 inches

Height 69.7 inches King Cab
70.1 inches Crew Cab (w/o/ roof rack)

Select Exterior Features Available in a choice of King Cab or Crew Cab bodies with aggressive, rugged Titan-style exterior design, chrome grille and bumpers, short front and rear overhangs, large geometric fender flares, available high-utility bed features, including factory-applied spray-in bedliner, Utili-track? bed channel system, available tube-style, functional roof rack

Select Interior Features Spacious, comfortable interior design with flexible seating and cargo utility, larger interior dimensions versus the current Frontier, flip-up rear seats on King Cab and Crew Cab

Safety Zone Body construction with front and rear crumple zones, Nissan Advanced Air Bag System (includes dual-stage front supplemental air bags with seat belt sensors and a front occupant classification sensor), 3-point front seat belts with pretensioners and load limiters, available supplemental front seat side-impact air bags with available supplemental curtain air bags for side impact and rollover protection for front and rear outboard passengers, 3-point seat belts for all rear seat occupants, including center position (Crew Cab), LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for CHildren) child seat anchor system

Models King Cab and Crew Cab available in 4x2 and 4x4 and a choice of trim levels

Manufacturing Assembled by Nissan North America Manufacturing Smyrna & Decherd Tennessee Plant

 

[NFS4]

More info on the Colorado killer:

http://autoshow.edmunds.com/news/autoshow/articles/100916/page058.html?tid=edmunds.e.autoshow..leftnav.59.*
http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=carnews&loc_code=index&content_code=05367704