First Democrat Budget In 4 Years!

[Doc Savage Fan]

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mon...-nearly-1-trillion-in-new-taxes#ixzz2NMXbOuMg

Senate Democrats’ budget includes nearly $1 trillion in new taxes

The first budget from Senate Democrats in four years includes nearly $1 trillion in new taxes but would not balance the budget.

The blueprint unveiled by Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray (D-Wash.) on Tuesday to her Democratic colleagues would also turn off the next nine years of the sequester and replace those spending cuts with a 50-50 mix of tax increases and spending cuts.

The budget would dedicate $100 billion to economic stimulus in the form of infrastructure spending and job training.

Murray argues that her budget cuts $1.85 trillion from deficits over 10 years. But once the sequester cuts are turned off, Murray’s budget appears to reduce deficits by about $800 billion, using the Congressional Budget Office’s baseline. The Murray budget does not contain net spending cuts with the sequester turned off.

The details of Murray’s budget came hours after House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) released his budget, which reduces tax rates and slashes spending much more deeply that Murray’s budget.

The Ryan budget would balance in 10 years without raising taxes and by reducing spending over the next decade by $5.7 trillion compared to the CBO baseline.

Balanced budget? Nope
Spending cuts? Nope
Tax increases? Yep! A whopping $1 trillion in new taxes!

Well...looking at the positive side I'm glad they finally took their job seriously and actually prepared a budget.

For the record, I don't think Ryan's budget is any better. I would like to see a compromise. Yeah...I'm a dreamer.

 

[cybrsage]

Our spending is out of control, I would rather see Ryan's budget than Murray's budget...but I agree, something more in the middle would be better. A 20 year plan to being neutral is fine.

 

[lotus503]

Our spending is out of control, I would rather see Ryan's budget than Murray's budget...but I agree, something more in the middle would be better. A 20 year plan to being neutral is fine.

I think right at this moment in history our economy is more frail than it appears. I think 20 years neutral is good, I would also like to see some actual job stimulating infrastructure projects in the short term, like we were told would happen during the stimulus.

I live near many many bridges most of which have horrible ratings.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Looks like more than half of Ryan's spending cuts would come from cutting back on Medicaid and repealing Obamacare. I highly doubt it gets repealed regardless of how crappy it is. I heard on the radio today that the application process is a nightmare...15 pages of complex forms for a family of three! Oh joy.

 

[thraashman]

Our spending is out of control, I would rather see Ryan's budget than Murray's budget...but I agree, something more in the middle would be better. A 20 year plan to being neutral is fine.

The Ryan budget would virtually guarantee we fall back into a recession and quite possibly a depression.

 

[cybrsage]

The Ryan budget would virtually guarantee we fall back into a recession and quite possibly a depression.

Which is why I prefer something in the middle. Something between horrific spending and tax increases and horrific cuts.

 

[Incorruptible]

The Ryan budget would virtually guarantee we fall back into a recession and quite possibly a depression.

Your ignorance is stunning. The amount of fear mongering and exaggerating that comes from the left is just disgusting. There aren't any real spending cuts in his budget

What we need is a proper budget with real spending cuts and not just cuts in the rate of growth like that POS obama/ryan want.

 

[nehalem256]

So I hope this makes clear to the all the left-wing whiners why the Sequester was the only way for Republicans to cut spending.

Even after it happened Democrats still want to roll half of it back and replace it with tax cuts.

 

[cybrsage]

If you cut the rate of grown of spending, but not the rate of grown of income, you will eventually become neutral...and then have a surplus which can be used to pay off the debt accrued thus far.

 

[sunzt]

Our spending is out of control, I would rather see Ryan's budget than Murray's budget...but I agree, something more in the middle would be better. A 20 year plan to being neutral is fine.

I think most Americans (including me) want something in the middle. But if one had to pick the least bad of the two, I'd have to pick the Ryan one......

 

[HomerJS]

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mon...-nearly-1-trillion-in-new-taxes#ixzz2NMXbOuMg


Balanced budget? Nope
Spending cuts? Nope
Tax increases? Yep! A whopping $1 trillion in new taxes!

Well...looking at the positive side I'm glad they finally took their job seriously and actually prepared a budget.

For the record, I don't think Ryan's budget is any better. I would like to see a compromise. Yeah...I'm a dreamer.

your own quote says spending cuts vs tax increases in 50-50

 

[First]

First Senate budget in 4 years, and it means....absolutely nothing! lol. It won't change anything and when it doesn't we will, frankly, still hear the exact the politicians on the right claim the exact same things, only this time they won't have the "No Senate budget!" strawman to tear down.

So like I've said before, the CR appropriations process is all that is necessary to fund the gov't, so a budget literally means nothing other than giving a blueprint of the Senate, which no one should truly care about one way or the other when it's the executive that signs bills into law and lays out broad blueprints.

 

[rudder]

If you cut the rate of grown of spending, but not the rate of grown of income, you will eventually become neutral...and then have a surplus which can be used to pay off the debt accrued thus far.

But if the government does not grow ...how will the economy grow?

http://www.youtube.com/#/watch?v=kj-5yfAnxSI

 

[fskimospy]

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mon...-nearly-1-trillion-in-new-taxes#ixzz2NMXbOuMg


Balanced budget? Nope
Spending cuts? Nope
Tax increases? Yep! A whopping $1 trillion in new taxes!

Well...looking at the positive side I'm glad they finally took their job seriously and actually prepared a budget.

For the record, I don't think Ryan's budget is any better. I would like to see a compromise. Yeah...I'm a dreamer.

I was unaware that passing meaningless nonbinding resolutions was what defined whether or not someone was taking their job seriously or not.

Budgets aren't worth the paper they are printed on, they are just useless political theater. It is interesting however that people view that theater as such a vital thing.

 

[rudder]

I was unaware that passing meaningless nonbinding resolutions was what defined whether or not someone was taking their job seriously or not.

Budgets aren't worth the paper they are printed on, they are just useless political theater. It is interesting however that people view that theater as such a vital thing.

Spoken like a true hack.

 

[cybrsage]

But if the government does not grow ...how will the economy grow?

http://www.youtube.com/#/watch?v=kj-5yfAnxSI

 

[fskimospy]

Spoken like a true hack.

I think you meant 'spoken like someone who actually knows what a budget resolution is'.

But hey, if them passing nonbinding resolutions that don't do anything does it for you, I'm happy that you're happy. They might be naming some post offices sometime soon as well, I'm sure you'll love that.

 

[boomerang]

Imagine if you worked in the private sector and took 4 years to bring a project to completion that should have taken a year.

 

[Pens1566]

Your ignorance is stunning. The amount of fear mongering and exaggerating that comes from the left is just disgusting. There aren't any real spending cuts in his budget

What we need is a proper budget with real spending cuts and not just cuts in the rate of growth like that POS obama/ryan want.

Pro tip: You're about the last poster around here that should be accusing anyone else of ignorance.

 

[ivwshane]

So I hope this makes clear to the all the left-wing whiners why the Sequester was the only way for Republicans to cut spending.

Even after it happened Democrats still want to roll half of it back and replace it with tax cuts.

Ryan says his budget is just part of the negotiating strategy and you don't start off with your best offer, are "lefties" not allowed to play the same game?


What's funny about Ryan's budget is that it talks about getting rid of the ACA EXCEPT for the taxes it generates. So basically he wants your money AND he wants to take away the benefits of the ACA.
Add to that the disastrous affect of paying down the debt in 10 years and you gotta wonder why anyone would support the Ryan budget.

 

[Incorruptible]

The ryan budget isn't really that different from obama and the democrats. It just cuts the rate of growth which they would probably offer themselves but still call them cuts. If ryan was a democrat then obama would be cheering him on. I cant believe some pieces of shit are stupid enough to believe that ryan wants to push granny off the cliff.

 

[thraashman]

Pro tip: You're about the last poster around here that should be accusing anyone else of ignorance.

That's why I ignored him. Him trying to insult my lack of knowledge on something is like a armless 8 year old claiming he could school Michael Jordan in basketball when he was at his prime... Also the 8 year old is chained to the bleachers.

 

[Incorruptible]

That's why I ignored him. Him trying to insult my lack of knowledge on something is like a armless 8 year old claiming he could school Michael Jordan in basketball when he was at his prime... Also the 8 year old is chained to the bleachers.

Your free to ignore me. Where did I insult your lack of knowledge. I dont care what you think I am right on the issues since I actually follow the Constitution.

 

[Jhhnn]

I was unaware that passing meaningless nonbinding resolutions was what defined whether or not someone was taking their job seriously or not.

Budgets aren't worth the paper they are printed on, they are just useless political theater. It is interesting however that people view that theater as such a vital thing.

The GWB admin & Repub Congress had "budgets", then financed 2 wars with "Off Budget" appropriations.

Go figure, huh?

 

[SparkyJJO]

The GWB admin & Repub Congress had "budgets", then financed 2 wars with "Off Budget" appropriations.

Go figure, huh?

One side's failings does NOT make it OK for the other side to do the same thing. Enough with that sad excuse already.

One of your (many) problems is you make the wrong assumption that all republicans agree with what the party as a whole or (even a select few) does. Just because you may blindly follow your party doesn't mean everyone else does.