First Challenger Hellcat sold in Colorado crashed after an hour

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zerocool84

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What exactly is the point of building and/or buying a "ridiculously powerful" car if there is no way to use the power? Could the car not be the same with 400hp? It would look the same, sound the same, fail to brake properly the same, crash at every corner the same and have the same shitty build quality. Or, if you were born hung like an amoeba and absolutely need to have 700hp to feel like a man and can't buy enough guns to compensate for your ummm, shortcomings, couldn't you at least buy a 700hp car with brakes, suspension and tires designed to handle 700hp so you could use the 700hp and not drive like a little only lady in a 1980s Chevy Chevette because even breathing on the throttle makes the car uncontrollable?
Why does someone want a super fast graphics card or processor? Why does anyone want anything more than is normally useful? Why does a woman need a $1,000 purse or a man need a $1,000 watch. Because we are humans. I thought everyone knew that.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Yeah, uhm, no. Not too many people own street legal cars with more than 500hp. The few that do understand the point and have found the use of said power to be glorious. They use it every chance they get.....and live to tell the tale.

Bullshit.

Who owns a car with more than 500hp that's built down to the level of the Challenger? Cars of that power almost always have upgraded underpinnings so that the power can be used. The Challenger doesn't. Whether it has 400hp, 700hp or 1000hp it STILL can't accelerate in a straight line, brake or go around a corner. If the brakes, suspension and tires can only handle 250hp any power beyond that is completely wasted.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Why does someone want a super fast graphics card or processor? Why does anyone want anything more than is normally useful? Why does a woman need a $1,000 purse or a man need a $1,000 watch. Because we are humans. I thought everyone knew that.

Completely bassakward analogy, what a desperately pathetic attempt. Here's the proper way to phrase that question:


Why does someone want a super fast graphics card or processor if it needs to be downclocked 50% to make the computer stable and any attempts to get it to run at near the stated speeds results in a blue screen of death?
 

monkeydelmagico

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Bullshit.

Who owns a car with more than 500hp that's built down to the level of the Challenger? Cars of that power almost always have upgraded underpinnings so that the power can be used. The Challenger doesn't. Whether it has 400hp, 700hp or 1000hp it STILL can't accelerate in a straight line, brake or go around a corner. If the brakes, suspension and tires can only handle 250hp any power beyond that is completely wasted.


So there is no difference between the stock challenger and the high HP version? You might want to look at the spec sheets before making a fool of yourself.
 

sdifox

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Why does someone want a super fast graphics card or processor? Why does anyone want anything more than is normally useful? Why does a woman need a $1,000 purse or a man need a $1,000 watch. Because we are humans. I thought everyone knew that.

not the same thing. you can use the videocard to full power without it crashing.
 

Bubbleawsome

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Except, here's the shocker, it's not impossible to handle. :eek:
Shocking right?!
You just need to be able to use it. It's a muscle car. Just because it isn't up to your standards doesn't mean it isn't usable. Try driving a diablo or an older BMW like this car, they're even less stable.

tl;dr just because it isn't the best doesn't mean it isn't awesome.
 

zerocool84

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Bullshit.

Who owns a car with more than 500hp that's built down to the level of the Challenger? Cars of that power almost always have upgraded underpinnings so that the power can be used. The Challenger doesn't. Whether it has 400hp, 700hp or 1000hp it STILL can't accelerate in a straight line, brake or go around a corner. If the brakes, suspension and tires can only handle 250hp any power beyond that is completely wasted.
Of course the car is upgraded. It's not like everything is stock, suspension, transmission, brakes, it's almost upgraded.
It's 700hp RWD, it's going to have traction problems under high acceleration. Unless it's a purpose built car or the driver is experienced, I doubt any 700hp RWD is going to be easy to drive.
 
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GoodRevrnd

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That's muscle car engineering. They're trying to stick to their roots :^D Old c. I actuallys can be fun to drive, but they punish inexperience and mistakes.

I was commenting more on monkey seemingly implying that everything that makea car controllable isa nanny. I actually agree with you that there isn't anything necessarily wrong with this muscle car style, all these idiots just need to understand what they're actually driving. That said, I do find it curious you'd build a drag racer-ish car with so much power and only put 275s on.
 

CZroe

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No Kawasaki fans here, I take it?

now I don't feel so bad when my 2 day old LG G2 dropped and cracked the screen. I had spent so hours testing all the roms configured it perfectly, had a great case for it. Dropped it 3 feet with the TPU case on it and somehow the entire screen spider cracked and digitizer no longer works. Stood their for 5 seconds in disbelief.
Easy to fix. A coworker took his to a local guy who replaced only the glass or glass and digitizer but the replacement had proximity sensor issues, a dead/unresponsive area on the digitizer about a quarter of the way down (all the way across), and a message about the display being damaged kept coming up on the screen. He ordered a replacement screen and precut adhesive and I threw it together for him. It still exhibited the proximity sensor issue so I did the Sharpie trick some replacement iPhone displays require and it was as good as new!

Oh: that other "local guy" (supposedly a professional shop) had used superglue instead of adhesive. NEVER use that stuff in an enclosed plastic device! The vapors will condense and ruin plastic parts with a white condensate coating everything! We were lucky that I was able to scrape most off and he must have allowed most frying before reassembly. The least he could have done was made sure it freakin' WORKED before gluing it together. :rolleyes: The next day I repaired an LG G3 as well and it was even easier.
 

BUTCH1

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What exactly is the point of building and/or buying a "ridiculously powerful" car if there is no way to use the power? Could the car not be the same with 400hp? It would look the same, sound the same, fail to brake properly the same, crash at every corner the same and have the same shitty build quality. Or, if you were born hung like an amoeba and absolutely need to have 700hp to feel like a man and can't buy enough guns to compensate for your ummm, shortcomings, couldn't you at least buy a 700hp car with brakes, suspension and tires designed to handle 700hp so you could use the 700hp and not drive like a little old lady in a 1980s Chevy Chevette because even breathing on the throttle makes the car uncontrollable?

You should check out the reviews by pros of the car before posting, it has been equipped with very beefy brakes, bilstein shocks, adjustable suspension, ect. At the end of the day 707 HP is going to get away from you fairly quickly unless you want it to look cheesy by adding street-legal racing tires. There is a learning curve with a machine that powerful, this idiot probably just floored it thinking it was gonna be like his old Mustang and it got away from him in seconds. Same can be said for many powerful motorcycles, the Boss Hog is a friggin 400HP LS Corvette engine on 2 wheels, if someone got killed riding one the first day by trying to use it's full potential before learning how it is going to respond would be a similar idiot.
 

BUTCH1

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Dodge and great after the year 1974 doesn't compute

Please, another uninformed one, the '71 Hemi Challenger came with a 3 MONTH warranty, that's it, the Hellcat outperforms it in every conceivable way AND burns 40% less fuel than an original 426. Has Dodge wheeled out some shitboxes from time to time,? well yea, but so has GM and Ford. Take the time to read how much engineering went into the Hellcat and you will come away impressed.
 
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