First attempt with Mini ITX

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  1. SlickRoenick

    SlickRoenick Member

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    My father has asked if i would put together 3 computers for his office. Doesn't have to be something massive, but would like to get 5-6 years out of these machines (hence why i've included an ssd to keep them peppy). I used mwave.com instead of newegg.com since the prices seemed to be overall cheaper (today anyway). If anyone has some better suggestions, i certainly would like to hear what you all have to weigh in.

    I've never used ITX cases/psu/mobo before, so, please be gentle :)

    case: Apex MI-008 http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...iteria=AA77305
    mem: Kingston 8GB http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...iteria=AB02816
    mobo: Intel something-or-other http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...iteria=BA76257
    cpu: Intel i3 http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...iteria=BA76781
    dvd: Asus http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...iteria=BA26244
    ssd: Intel 330 http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...iteria=BE90553
     
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  3. DSF

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    Are you going to be on the hook for tech support? For a basic office machine it's hard to beat the value of something like Dell Outlet, plus then your dad can get a service contract, and it comes with an OS license.
     
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    :thumbsup: Hard to beat a refurb Optiplex for $300 + $100 for a 3-year all-inclusive warranty.
     
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    I built a higher end itx system for office use. That means SSD, which means no Dell outlet. Trying to draw an OS license from a stone doesn't appeal to me.

    So I'm with the OP so far, given the nice SSD he has in there.

    But I'm going to suggest the In Win itx case over that Apex unit. Looks better and probably works better, at least I liked it. Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108196

    The only thing to realize about these budget itx cases is that the psu fans simply are not quiet. They are small and relatively inefficient and the fan just works hard to get the heat out and is optimized for safety not user happiness.

    Make sure that's ok with the users. If not, you need to go with a larger itx case or even micro ATX, to utilize a full size psu.
     
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    i wood be curious to axe whether a 250 watt power supply would be sufficient for what that chip
     
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    They were $59.99 FS a few days ago! Now they're $89.99, which still isn't bad.
     
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    I'm not sure what "trying to draw an OS license from a stone" means.

    Beyond that, the OP is looking to build several systems that are (presumably) going to be the backbone of somebody's business. Maybe I have been a sysadmin for too long, but I wouldn't want to touch that with a 10-foot pole unless I had some sort of warranty backing me up. Otherwise, there's just too much risk (i.e. money out of my pocket) when something breaks.
     
  10. Termie

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    Installing an SSD in a Dell Outlet PC without a Windows DVD.

    By the way, I agree with you. Building ITX systems for business purposes is not a good idea. The PSUs, and to a lesser extent, the motherboards are of questionable quality. Like I said, I built one, and it's working fine, but I do not like losing control over the PSU - perhaps I could have figured out a way to fit an SFX power supply in, but the choices would still be limited.

    Unfortunately, that means if you want small, SSD-equipped systems for professional use, there aren't many options out there right now. Perhaps some of the Dells now come with SSD cache drives. Haven't checked lately.
     
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    Oh, ok, thanks for the clarification.

    It's actually quite easy to do this because each PC will come with a sticker printed with the Windows license key. Then you just download the appropriate Windows ISO from MS and install like you normally would.
     
  12. Zap

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    The CPU has a TDP of 55W. With the SSD, system will probably idle at 30W and never hit over 60W from the wall.

    Good thing too, since that PSU probably can't actually put out a usable 250W of power. :twisted:

    One of them is still $60 shipped.
     
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    I think $129 for a motherboard for an Ivy Bridge i-3 is too high. This is why I dont like Mini-ITX. It is just more expensive. Probably an ASROCK H77 board will do fine.

    These say they are selling for $69???

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157303
    ASRock H77M LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard