Siri does "natural voice" so you don't have to use a strict syntax or anything when talking to it. So there are dozens of ways if not more to speak the possible commands. I imagine the phone could handle the actual processing, but it probably requires a huge database to interpret all the commands. I'm sure apple didn't want to waste space on the phone or increase storage. Plus, with Siri being cloud based, the entire system improves its recognition ability as more people use it.... Or so they claim.
Siri does "natural voice" so you don't have to use a strict syntax or anything when talking to it. So there are dozens of ways if not more to speak the possible commands. I imagine the phone could handle the actual processing, but it probably requires a huge database to interpret all the commands. I'm sure apple didn't want to waste space on the phone or increase storage. Plus, with Siri being cloud based, the entire system improves its recognition ability as more people use it.... Or so they claim.
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Yep, get used to it. iOS will never have the capability to program/change default apps.
One would hope not. Such voice recognition software that you are likely referring to is locally controlled and stored on your personal device.
If Apple ever claims that Siri 'learns' then it will suffer HUGE international privacy legal ramifications for storing users' biometric data. The only possibility for a beginning of compliance would be for Apple to lock all Siri services out from user access until the user is clearly presented with an opt-in aggreement for external (often foreign) biometric surrendering and storage.
That's all mute as Siri apparently does not 'learn' and is an international flop for Apple as it was advertised upon the 4S for an international launch but Siri does not exist as active outside of the USA.
Apple is smoke and mirrors. Siri is not new and most certainly not revolutionary. It barely works as currently implemented. Voice recognition is not new. A 5 year old Windows Mobile phone with Microsoft's locally managed and controlled Voice Commander regularly worked more reliably for disaplying contacts, starting apps, music, etc...
Ns1
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Isn't the point that voice command only accepts a select set of commands in certain syntax, whereas siri will interpret whatever?
I mean I don't have an android phone right next to me, but someone run this through vlingo and let me know what it says:
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Much like Picasa on Android...
I am quite happy sticking with my HTC Desire HD. Wife and mom each now have a Motorola Defy. Despite the latter only being Froyo, they are each thrilled with it working as they wish, while loving its slightly larger screen but smaller size, weight, than an iPhone 4. Being water and dust resistent is a bonus.
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Isn't the point that voice command only accepts a select set of commands in certain syntax, whereas siri will interpret whatever?
I mean I don't have an android phone right next to me, but someone run this through vlingo and let me know what it says:
Is it really interpreting whatever or did the designers just plan answers for jokes like these to be asked?
Ns1
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you can ask the device "what the meaning of life is" and get several different answers.
siri has been responding to many ridiculous requests.
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I get it's fun and all to mess with it and see what it might reply with, but is this really one of the big things that's supposed to differentiate it from any existing voice control app?
As I don't have a 4S I can't test it myself, but what useful things does Siri do that I can't already do with another app?
Ns1
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respond to commands in a manner other than
COMMAND text text text
I haven't given Siri a real spin since their servers were fucked over the weekend. I'll let you know after a week.
Red Storm
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Thanks. Also, does using Siri require pressing a button to initiate it? I assume by default it would of course, but are there options so that - for exmaple - if you get a text while driving the phone will announce it and then give you the option of telling it to read you the message, without having to reach for your phone at all?
The biggest hurdle to these voice apps since they've first been introduced is that you still have to pull your phone out to start using them, which to me kinda defeats the purpose.
Later versions of Microsoft Voice Command (2003 introduction for Pocket PC then Windows Mobile) enabled activation via bluetooth call initiation:
All could be accomplished without the phone in hand.
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I guess I should edit my post to say "or use a headset/earpiece."
That's pretty neat, but I don't like wearing a bluetooth earpiece. Good to know the option is there though!
Up to a year ago it was quite common for me using my HTC Touch Pro and then Touch Pro 2 to use voice commands via the car stereo to initiate music/podcast playback, ringer levels, etc.
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you can ask the device "what the meaning of life is" and get several different answers.
siri has been responding to many ridiculous requests.
Eh that's cool and all but I still think it's just a product of clever programming and people are acting like it's AI or something. Anyway I hope someone gets it working on the iphone 4, I'd like to play around with it but I don't use voice commands enough to buy an iphone 4s unlocked jsut for siri.
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Siri, and android voice control both send your voice to remote servers for the speech to text and further processing.
The phone isn't powerful enough to do it fast enough, yet.
Yes, they are storing/analyzing your voice to learn. there's an option on android to enable voice learning - there's probably something similar for Siri as well.
The phone isn't powerful enough to do it fast enough, yet.
Yes, they are storing/analyzing your voice to learn. there's an option on android to enable voice learning - there's probably something similar for Siri as well.
It doesn't matter if someone ports it perfectly. Apple's servers are not taking Siri commands from an iPhone 4, so it will never work right until Apple wants it.
when he enables an iphone 4 to understand natural language speaking i'll check this out again. otherwise that story is BS
did you see how many servers watson comprised of?
granted, siri isn't as advanced, but that puts things into perspective.
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