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igowerf

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I'm using his build right now. It works. I can't really tell a difference though.
 
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Originally posted by: igowerf
I'm using his build right now. It works. I can't really tell a difference though.
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Same here....I've been using the optimized build 1.0 for a few weeks now but honestly don't notice much of an improvement.
 
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CTho9305

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He doesn't seem to be willing to release his source code... that would make it a GPL violation.

edit: Mozilla and Firefox are "tri-licensed" (GPL, MPL, NPL), and all of them require that you provide source code. See my next reply for a link to a thread on moox's forums.
 
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n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: CTho9305
He doesn't seem to be willing to release his source code... that would make it a GPL violation.
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I thought he just optimized things. Does he actually change anything?

EDIT: Guess so. It also seems to violate the Mozilla license.
 
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StrongJohn

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How do you know he will not release his source? Have you asked him?

Since the mozilla source is licensed under a combo of NPL/MPL/LGPL/GPL he (do we even know this person is a 'he') may be perfectly fine in his actions...

 
Nothinman

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I personally haven't tried them because I don't want to re-get all my extensions
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If you've installed them into your profile instead of the Mozilla directory you shouldn't have to reget them all.

How do you know he will not release his source? Have you asked him?
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Even if he will give it to people who ask for it, it's bad form to not put your changes up on the website with the binaries.
 
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n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: StrongJohn
How do you know he will not release his source? Have you asked him?

Since the mozilla source is licensed under a combo of NPL/MPL/LGPL/GPL he (do we even know this person is a 'he') may be perfectly fine in his actions...
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The part of the MPL I read required the release of source, as does the NPL. The GPL requires that it be offered to the people that download/buy the binary (the NPL/MPL require it to be available in the same way the binary is, if I'm reading that correctly). The LGPL requires the source be given out, and anything linked to the libraries can be distributed as object files. Hell, the LGPL is barely free, IMO. :confused:
 
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Nothinman

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Hell, the LGPL is barely free, IMO
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But that was it's point. To have the same restrictions of the GPL but allow binary-only programs to link against it without any of the normal fighting about whether programs linking against a GPL'd library are derivatives and thus have to be licensed under the GPL.
 
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Cerb

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I use the JTW builds, myself. Awesome for slower PCs on sites with large tables (like time-wasting forums!).
Also, read up!
Extensions will work fine in any build, and those installed will work just like before.
 
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Cerb

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Originally posted by: CTho9305
He doesn't seem to be willing to release his source code... that would make it a GPL violation.
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FF is under GPL? I think there are more licenses than that.
 
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Nothinman

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FF is under GPL? I think there are more licenses than that.
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It's also released under the NPL, MPL, and LGPL and AFAIK they all require release of the source code in some fashion.
 
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Nothinman

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It looks like it's just inconvenient for him to do so.. I don't think he's unwilling to release it
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The reasoning is irrelevant, it's still a license violation.
 
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drag

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
FF is under GPL? I think there are more licenses than that.
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It's also released under the NPL, MPL, and LGPL and AFAIK they all require release of the source code in some fashion.
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That's the sort of thing that the GPL originally was designed to aviod. Set a standard for Free software (according to GNU/FSF/RMS's ideas*) so you don't end up with licensing hell.



*the source code is free for you to use as you like for what you like and how you like. The only restrictions are there to ensure the continued freedom of the end users over that of commercial intrests. Basicly if you distribute software you have to make the source code aviable at no extra cost (except for the media or cost of data transfer), too. The "viral" nature of GPL is to put a end to having dozens and dozens of licensing varaitions for each peice of sotware....
 
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n0cmonkey

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I'm still not using it because of the license violations. The regular binaries have a suspicious license too. :|
 
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CTho9305

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I'm still not using it because of the license violations. The regular binaries have a suspicious license too. :|
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So build from source. I'd offer my custom builds (windows only ;)) but I don't feel like figuring out the trademark rules.

edit: I asked, it might be very easy. So PM me if you want one.
 
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