Firefox rendering bug on certain distros

WaitingForNehalem

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I have noticed this bug in Linux Mint for several releases. This does not occur in Chrome or in Firefox on other distributions. Take a look at any review on Newegg in Firefox on Linux Mint and see if the rating bars line up.

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WaitingForNehalem

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Strange, they are aligned properly in Ubuntu. You would think that because Mint is built on top of Ubuntu and uses the same packages that Firefox would render the page the same.
 

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That's odd, it's doing it for me too in Kubuntu 13.04 in Firefox. My system at home has 13.10 I'll have to check when I'm there, but I don't think it does it as I probably would have noticed when I was on Newegg not that long ago.

This is the kind of screw up I'd expect Internet explorer to do but not Firefox. :p
 

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Just want to add since upgrading to 34.0.5 from 22, I noticed that sometimes opening a link in a new tab will sometimes open an empty tab instead. And Firefox is still a resource hog if left open for too long.

Code:
# top -cbn 1 | egrep "firefox|PID"
  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
 8391 replica   20   0 4189112 2.897g  86644 R 100.4  9.2   3840:50 firefox
 

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I can conform it does it for me in Kubuntu 13.10 as well. Using Firefox 30. I think they stopped updating this distro since I can't update it any higher. Actually maybe it's the site? When I'm at work I will try in IE6.

And yes it's still and always has been a resource hog unfortunately.

I have 12GB of ram, if I leave FF open long enough it WILL use all of it. Takes several weeks before it gets to that point though. My PC started a new issue where it locks up all the time out of nowhere so it's rare I go for more than a few days now.
 

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I can conform it does it for me in Kubuntu 13.10 as well. Using Firefox 30. I think they stopped updating this distro since I can't update it any higher. Actually maybe it's the site? When I'm at work I will try in IE6.

And yes it's still and always has been a resource hog unfortunately.

I have 12GB of ram, if I leave FF open long enough it WILL use all of it. Takes several weeks before it gets to that point though. My PC started a new issue where it locks up all the time out of nowhere so it's rare I go for more than a few days now.

Ubuntu 14.10 is out now. I'm never really used Ubuntu, so I guess they assume you'll wipe out 13.10 and install 14.10.

I have 32G of RAM, and I've seen Firefox use up to 30% of it and peg a CPU thread at 100%. I'm glad it's not multi-threaded.

Oh, I might actually have most of the parts to build the CPU in your sig. :D
 

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I can conform it does it for me in Kubuntu 13.10 as well. Using Firefox 30. I think they stopped updating this distro since I can't update it any higher. Actually maybe it's the site? When I'm at work I will try in IE6.

And yes it's still and always has been a resource hog unfortunately.

I have 12GB of ram, if I leave FF open long enough it WILL use all of it. Takes several weeks before it gets to that point though. My PC started a new issue where it locks up all the time out of nowhere so it's rare I go for more than a few days now.

I examined the same page on both Windows Firefox and Mint Firefox using Firefox inspector and the CSS rules are applied the same, as they should be. So that leads me to believe it is not the page but the browser.
 

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Ubuntu 14.10 is out now. I'm never really used Ubuntu, so I guess they assume you'll wipe out 13.10 and install 14.10.

I have 32G of RAM, and I've seen Firefox use up to 30% of it and peg a CPU thread at 100%. I'm glad it's not multi-threaded.

Oh, I might actually have most of the parts to build the CPU in your sig. :D

That's sorta a downside of Linux... updates way too freaking fast and versions go obsolete too fast. I have this system more or less the way I want now and it looks like I might have to reinstall it all and start over. The repositories have not been pulled yet though so I'll probably be good for a while but I'll want to start looking at upgrading. I want to try Linux Mint again so might give that a try, I think they have longer support periods too. For some reason it would not install on this system, but I'm actually building a new system so this one can be for Windows/gaming only. It locks up all the time when idle, so I'll just keep it turned off and turn it on when needed.
 

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That's sorta a downside of Linux... updates way too freaking fast and versions go obsolete too fast. I have this system more or less the way I want now and it looks like I might have to reinstall it all and start over. The repositories have not been pulled yet though so I'll probably be good for a while but I'll want to start looking at upgrading. I want to try Linux Mint again so might give that a try, I think they have longer support periods too. For some reason it would not install on this system, but I'm actually building a new system so this one can be for Windows/gaming only. It locks up all the time when idle, so I'll just keep it turned off and turn it on when needed.

What's wrong with the LTS releases?
 

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I examined the same page on both Windows Firefox and Mint Firefox using Firefox inspector and the CSS rules are applied the same, as they should be. So that leads me to believe it is not the page but the browser.

What's interesting is that even though Mint is based off of Ubuntu, Mint doesn't use Ubuntu's build of Firefox. Mint's Firefox package is just a packaged version of Firefox pre-built straight from Mozilla's website.

That's sorta a downside of Linux... updates way too freaking fast and versions go obsolete too fast. I have this system more or less the way I want now and it looks like I might have to reinstall it all and start over. The repositories have not been pulled yet though so I'll probably be good for a while but I'll want to start looking at upgrading. I want to try Linux Mint again so might give that a try, I think they have longer support periods too. For some reason it would not install on this system, but I'm actually building a new system so this one can be for Windows/gaming only. It locks up all the time when idle, so I'll just keep it turned off and turn it on when needed.

Some Linux distributions are rolling releases, so you can just keep installing updates for the original install. Most, like Ubuntu, are more of a fixed release. Ubuntu kind of expects you to reinstall every 6 months. You could treat it like a rolling release, but things might break.
 

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What's wrong with the LTS releases?

I am on one... Still, I think those are only good for 4 years. When I installed it, it was probably already 2 years in.

Then again Windows is just as bad now days, perhaps worse because they're so inconsistent, at least Ubuntu has a fixed system that is consistent.

I just feel like I'm constantly having to reinstall and reconfigure everything because it goes out of date so fast. Oh well, that's another topic. :p
 

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I am on one... Still, I think those are only good for 4 years. When I installed it, it was probably already 2 years in.

Then again Windows is just as bad now days, perhaps worse because they're so inconsistent, at least Ubuntu has a fixed system that is consistent.

I just feel like I'm constantly having to reinstall and reconfigure everything because it goes out of date so fast. Oh well, that's another topic. :p

Not really... Windows 7 is supported until 2020. Windows is a commercial product with enterprise support.
 

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13.10 wasn't a lts release. The previous one(12.04) is supported until 2017, and the current one(14.04) is supported until 2019.
 

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Just want to add since upgrading to 34.0.5 from 22, I noticed that sometimes opening a link in a new tab will sometimes open an empty tab instead. And Firefox is still a resource hog if left open for too long.

Code:
# top -cbn 1 | egrep "firefox|PID"
  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
 8391 replica   20   0 4189112 2.897g  86644 R 100.4  9.2   3840:50 firefox
Are you using the 32-bit or 64-bit version? I've never seen this in 34.0.5 yet, and I open new tabs all the time, but I only have 1GB RAM. Maybe it only does this when you're using over 4GB of Virtual Memory? Or maybe upgrading from a low version corrupted something in the profile and creating a new one might fix it?
 

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Are you using the 32-bit or 64-bit version? I've never seen this in 34.0.5 yet, but I only have 1GB RAM. Maybe it only does this when you're using over 4GB of Virtual Memory. Or maybe upgrading from a low version corrupted something in the profile and creating a new one might fix it?

64bit. It's been doing this since version 4.x.x I believe.
 

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So right now I'm running Firefox 36 beta 5 on Debian Sid on two different computers. This rendering bug only happens on one of them....
 

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ive noticed for some time that firefox doesnt render my credit card webpage properly (att)