ninaholic37
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364% CPU, not bad. Firefox running for 3207 hours is pretty good, I close it every time I leave.
Another issue, if anyone can confirm if they get it too? Is that random web sites will always show page cannot be displayed, connection reset, server not found or other similar error when they have not been accessed for a while. Hit refresh and it loads right away. So far there are 3 sites that it does this for. Originally before my clean install it was 2 of those same sites it did it to, but now it started doing it to another site.
+1Amazon has HORRIBLE javascript, if you disable ssl-images-amazon.com in noscript it should be better. In fact I find a lot of sites now days have horrible javascript code that locks up the whole browser. I use noscript and only allow stuff as required, kinda a pain in the butt sometimes though especially with news sites, which will have like 30+ domains, it's gotten pretty ridiculous.
In general I find FF is actually faster and more stable in Linux than it is in Windows, though come to think of it I'd say they're pretty much equal now as I have not had issues in Windows for a while either as I use it at work.
I don't notice any performance degradation, but it makes sense that I don't, because I have Firefox set to Never Remember History / private browsing mode and don't use session restore, and I don't upgrade (because of Australis and other Chrome-like features being added), and each time I turn on the computer the same image and profile data is loaded into ram as the last time, so it's always the exact same files and setup. There's no way Firefox itself could be the cause if I have more slowdown on different days because of this I think, but I don't anyway.Firefox seems to get slower as it "ages". I recently reinstalled Linux and it was fast at first, and now it's back to being slow again. Scrolling certain web pages like Facebook and youtube is excruciating as it's so choppy and actually requires lot of effort to do, it's like if the page is made of concrete or something. Some web pages actually load slow, as if it was on dialup. They really need to get their head together and fix this, it's ridiculous. I don't really want to switch to Chromium again but I might have to.
I never see this, except if I access a website quickly right after I turn my computer on before I'm fully connected to the internet, but again I think having Firefox set to Never Remember History / private browsing mode and not using session restore fixes a lot of potential bugs and performance quirks that might arise over time.Another issue, if anyone can confirm if they get it too? Is that random web sites will always show page cannot be displayed, connection reset, server not found or other similar error when they have not been accessed for a while. Hit refresh and it loads right away. So far there are 3 sites that it does this for. Originally before my clean install it was 2 of those same sites it did it to, but now it started doing it to another site.
I used to use JS Switch, which is a simple and fast way to turn Javascript on and off when you need it with a button on the navigation bar, but I found that just adding the right filters to uBlock or Adblock Edge gets rid of most annoying scripts also. I'm sort of torn between the two ideas, or just not doing anything (keeping Flash disabled), and did find NoScript to be too convoluted of a solution for me as well.Problem with no script is constantly having to add sites for 99% of websites to even load. With Amazon you can disable certain scripts but then the site is practically unusable. I wish people would stop coding so much garbage.
I was using noscript but just got tired of dealing with it. Would be nice if there was a central white list for it or something or if it blocked more specific scripts instead of domains.
How do you scroll? By moving the middle scroll-wheel thing on a mouse up and down? Just curious. I remember mikeymikec mentioning a similar problem in Windows with newer Firefox versions but it was when using the middle "button" to scroll (I didn't even know you could do that :awe: and still haven't tried it yet):It seems to be getting worse and worse, I'm starting to wonder if Firefox has some kind of cache that it keeps building and building and building that somehow affects scrolling. Even in phpmyadmin scrolling is becoming practically unusable. Everything is super jumpy it's horrible. I only have like 5 tabs opened. Why is it only doing this to me? I've also turned off hardware acceleration as that is known to cause this issue.
One reason why FF is slower under *nix is because GPU acceleration isn't as robust as it is under Windows and OS X. Many GPU acceleration features are currently buggy and disabled for many GPUs. Same goes for Chromium/Chrome (less severe however).
MSE is also disabled by default in FF IIRC due to bugs which makes youtube default to flash...
It seems to be getting worse and worse, I'm starting to wonder if Firefox has some kind of cache that it keeps building and building and building that somehow affects scrolling. Even in phpmyadmin scrolling is becoming practically unusable. Everything is super jumpy it's horrible. I only have like 5 tabs opened. Why is it only doing this to me? I've also turned off hardware acceleration as that is known to cause this issue.
Well I found the answer on REDDIT today.
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/3dgaem/fix_slow_amazon_under_firefox_without_losing/
Add the following to uBlock/AdBlockPlus filters.
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I think it's because Chrome doesn't know how to change the default browser in Linux. When you check "Yes" to use it as default browser, it probably still expects Windows or some other Linux environment and fails silently. There is probably a "default application chooser" you can do it from. For me, my default application chooser goes to firefox and firefox.bin in usr/bin, and I can just open those files as text and change their strings to point somewhere else, but that is more hackish.Even after uninstalling Firefox it STILL tried to use Firefox. So it seems in Linux they WANT you to use Firefox. I can see why as Chrome is not exactly "libre" with all the google stuff, even though you can avoid it, it's still there.
What CPU do you have? And what are you using to measure the CPU usage? I have noticed that in htop on my system, 20% CPU means 20% CPU @800MHz (lowest speedstep), it has to hit 50-95% CPU (depending on what I set the up_threshold to) at 800MHz before it can even bump up to 1066MHz or higher. Since my CPU can go to 1.86GHz, 20% CPU @800MHz would mean the equivalent of 8% CPU @1.86GHz from what I understand. With 5 tabs open, htop says my Firefox 28 was using a constant 0.0% CPU @800MHz, then when I logged into anandtech it raised to 14% CPU @800MHz, after I log out it went back to 0.0% CPU @800MHz, then when I logged in again it did the same thing. Not sure what's up with that. I guess it's better to browse Anandtech offline? :awe:Edit: I think FF is still a problem though. It's constantly using at least 20% cpu. Looks like I'm dealing with two separate issues here.
Interesting. Apparently I can hit '1' (the one key) while in top to switch modes. In the not-lumped-into-1-core mode, the second line then switches from CPU to CPU0, CPU1, etc. Mine just says CPU until I hit 1 to switch to this mode.Just using top to measure, I think it takes all cores into account, so 25% is actually 100% of one core, if it's a quad core.