Firefox messed up PNGs

[Red Squirrel]

Firefox is now doing the same thing as IE with PNGs, it's not rendering the colors properly. If you go to any site that has a mix of PNG and jpg for layout, the colors no longer match up. Anyone else notice this? Why would they break something like this? They release new versions so often I lost track of what version does it and which one does not, but I can confirm that version 26 does not as that's what I have at work and it works fine and at home it's 28 which does it.

Using this site as a test: http://www.uovalor.com. The top logo is a png while the background is a gif, so in the newer Firefox the logo is not the same color as the background.

Oh and this is in Linux, not sure if it does the same thing in Windows, but I presume it probably does, it's exactly what IE does, so it seems like they switched rendering engine or something.

 

[TheRyuu]

Firefox is now doing the same thing as IE with PNGs, it's not rendering the colors properly. If you go to any site that has a mix of PNG and jpg for layout, the colors no longer match up. Anyone else notice this? Why would they break something like this? They release new versions so often I lost track of what version does it and which one does not, but I can confirm that version 26 does not as that's what I have at work and it works fine and at home it's 28 which does it.

Using this site as a test: http://www.uovalor.com. The top logo is a png while the background is a gif, so in the newer Firefox the logo is not the same color as the background.

Oh and this is in Linux, not sure if it does the same thing in Windows, but I presume it probably does, it's exactly what IE does, so it seems like they switched rendering engine or something.

Man, I had to view the image by itself to see what you were getting on about (I thought it was just overlayed on the background so I wasn't sure how you could compare the two), but yea I see it here as well in Firefox (version 31) but man is it hard to see (on my monitor).

Chrome (37, 64-bit beta branch) and IE11 both have consistent colors, this is on Windows though. Another (perhaps ironic) and totally unrelated thing I found out about color rendering in browsers is that IE11 is the only browser on my system that supports ICC Version 4.

In any case, I found this which led me to this which suggested:

Please open about:config, confirm the warning and change gfx.color_management.mode from 2 to 0.

Does it fix your problem ?
You have a wrong color profile on your linux system in that case

Although it says that's somehow a linux only problem it fixed it for me as well on the site you linked (it now looks like it does in Chrome and IE11). Maybe it's just a color profile problem, I'm not sure.

 

[John Connor]

Too bad Pale Moon didn't work in Linux. I dumped FF after their firing of their CEO.

Wiat, are you using winblows? Because this in software for winblows.

 

[code65536]

Yes, this does sound like an issue with color profiles. Which usually is more trouble than it's worth because there are a lot of bad color profiles out there (and for graphics like the kind on this website, it's likely that the owners didn't even want there to be color correction profiles, but their image editors saved them in by default, and as a result, on different systems, displays, or software, people see different results).

Too bad Pale Moon didn't work in Linux. I dumped FF after their firing of their CEO.

Um. He resigned. 🙄 And not resigned-as-an-euphemism-for-fired but actually resigned on his own volition. As in, he did so despite the urging of the chairwoman for him to stay and despite having the support of the vast majority of Mozilla devs. Nobody in Mozilla forced him out (hell, most people in Mozilla had already found out about his views months earlier). He resigned because he believed that his being a lightning rod was hurting Mozilla too much.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Glad to know it's not just me. Is there something a site owner can do about this? That's one of my sites, it's not really in operation anymore but I sometimes check it, and noticed how it suddenly was not rendering right.

I've been looking at recoding one of my other sites so this is something I'll want to take into consideration. Or should I just stick to using the same image format across the board? TBH I'm not even sure why I used two different formats when I made that site years ago.

And yeah I'm using Linux, but there was not really any other forum to post this. They should really rename "Software for Windows" to just software as some programs are cross platform.

 

[TheRyuu]

Too bad Pale Moon didn't work in Linux. I dumped FF after their firing of their CEO.

If you're talking about Eich he resigned. Mozilla even asked him to stay on in another role [1]. This is straying dangerously into P/N territory [2].

Wiat, are you using winblows? Because this in software for winblows.

I'm not sure that's really all that relevant to the topic either. The validity of your post in this thread seems far more questionable than the validity of the topic in this subforum.

I've been looking at recoding one of my other sites so this is something I'll want to take into consideration. Or should I just stick to using the same image format across the board? TBH I'm not even sure why I used two different formats when I made that site years ago.

Could they not have both been png's? Could you not use alpha masking for the logo on top of the background (disclaimer: I'm not a web developer)? That way even if they didn't match it wouldn't be obvious although that's more hiding the problem instead of fixing it since the colors would still be off.

[1] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/08/mozilla_anti_gay_marriage_boycott/
[2] http://forums.anandtech.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24

 

[code65536]

Is there something a site owner can do about this?

I always compress PNG images that I distribute (e-mail, post on websites, etc.) using pngcrush. Additionally, pngcrush can also strip out color profile information so you don't get unwanted "corrections". (In some cases, stripping out unwanted chunks is the main reason I run a file through pngcrush.) I usually just use the -rem alla option--keep it simple. 🙂

 

[ninaholic37]

Too bad Pale Moon didn't work in Linux.

It works for me. I was surprised how easy it was to setup (worked right out-of-the-box). I think this was the version I used:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pm4linux/

 

[Jodell88]

The colour variation is so small that I only saw it after opening the page with Chromium to compare side by side.

 

[John Connor]

Um. He resigned. 🙄 And not resigned-as-an-euphemism-for-fired but actually resigned on his own volition. As in, he did so despite the urging of the chairwoman for him to stay and despite having the support of the vast majority of Mozilla devs. Nobody in Mozilla forced him out (hell, most people in Mozilla had already found out about his views months earlier). He resigned because he believed that his being a lightning rod was hurting Mozilla too much.

If you're talking about Eich he resigned. Mozilla even asked him to stay on in another role [1]. This is straying dangerously into P/N territory [2].

Just so we are clear:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/04/mozilla-ceo-resignation-free-speech/7328759/

SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) — The resignation of Mozilla's CEO amid outrage that he supported an anti-gay marriage campaign is prompting concerns about how Silicon Valley's strongly liberal culture might quash the very openness that is at the region's foundation.
Mozilla co-founder Brendan Eich stepped down Thursday as CEO, just days after his appointment. He left the nonprofit maker of the Firefox browser after furious attacks, largely on Twitter, over his $1,000 contribution to support of a now-overturned 2008 gay-marriage ban in California.

 

[John Connor]

OP, I get nothing but gifs in the background in Pale Moon. No pngs. 😕

 

[code65536]

Just so we are clear:

In case our posts were not clear to you: He resigned, due to external pressure. A firing is being removed by internal forces, and there was none. Mozilla supported him throughout, and he left because he felt that he was causing Mozilla too much collateral damage (as one of the original founders of Mozilla, he genuinely cared about Mozilla's well-being, and he felt that he needed to go in order to protect it, which is what he did).