Firefox 18.02 and Ebay

sm625

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I have noticed that over the past few weeks, ebay has been performing very slowly. Scrolling down thru a list of serach results is very jerky, and cpu use pegs one core at 100% any time I scroll.

This is just like problems with adobe flash and netflix. Since it is most likely never going to be fixed, I am just going to add this to the list of companies that are intentionally bloating their software so as to require new hardware. (ie The Bloat Conspiracy).

What I want to know is what the hell kind of cpu power does it take to ensure smooth scrolling on ebay? So if you have firefox 18.02, can you do a search with 200 results and post how it feels when scrolling, and what cpu specs you have.

I'm running XPSP3 on a Core 2 3.2GHz.
 
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DominionSeraph

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People still use Failfox?
Chrome 24.0.1312.57 m, if I move the scrollbar up and down as fast as I possibly can, core1 on my X4 945 will hit ~80%.
 

Vectronic

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Searched for "computer" switched it to 200 results per page... scrolling is fine in any form. Mouse, Scrollbar, Home/End, PageUp/Dn.

My idle usage is about 3% right now. Seems to favor core 2.

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Soulkeeper

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It's flash, javascript, and java not so much the browser
Also features like "smooth scroll" tend to be a gimmicks that sap resources imo
Not to mention the 100's of twitter/myface icons/links/animations/videos/etc. on every website these days. All the computer science graduates have to be doing something I guess ...

I miss the old days where websites were designed for reading/viewing instead of "interracting", connecting to "friends" and "experiencing"
Just a few buzzwords that slow things down.

[EDIT] I feel like I stepped into the thunderdome, hopefully nobody notices me posting :)
 
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VirtualLarry

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Waterfox 18.0.1 has a minor bug that you can be doing something (scrolling, typing, etc), and the browser will just freeze for a short while (few seconds).

It's very annoying, and it's not a hardware problem, because it happens to several of my computers that I upgraded Waterfox on.
 

sm625

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Wow Vectronic it looks like either a new i5 is plenty even for ebay, or win 8 just handles it better. I'm willing to be it is windows 8.

Does anyone have an ivy bridge i5/i7 and windows XP to test this on? I really doubt anyone does, but I'd be curious to see how that performs because that would tell me whether its the processor or just the old OS that's holding things up.
 

Ketchup

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I pulled up Ebay in Firefox on my virtual machine. Did an Ebay search for 'computer' 512 MB of RAM and an i5 processor. No sluggishness at all.
 

lopri

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I think it's eBay, not Firefox. There was a news report that eBay/Paypal were going through an extreme makeover.
 

sm625

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On my i5-750 machine I saw no lag and not much cpu usage either. It is strange that my core 2 has more than 66% of the IPC vs the i5, yet somehow that is the difference between smooth and irritatingly choppy.
 

VirtualLarry

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On my i5-750 machine I saw no lag and not much cpu usage either. It is strange that my core 2 has more than 66% of the IPC vs the i5, yet somehow that is the difference between smooth and irritatingly choppy.

Does one have an anti-virus, that is scanning the web content?
 

Ketchup

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On my i5-750 machine I saw no lag and not much cpu usage either. It is strange that my core 2 has more than 66% of the IPC vs the i5, yet somehow that is the difference between smooth and irritatingly choppy.

I think we can safely say it is not the web browser alone, and it is not your CPU. Could be that you haven't updated flash in a while, or any number of reasons if we take the issue out to include more that just Firefox.
 

dma0991

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Firefox 18.0.2 on the rig stated below with Windows 7. Runs just fine, no lags whatsoever and CPU spikes to less than 10%. Ran the same test using Firefox 18.0.2 on my Windows XP virtual machine with 2 cores. Slight lag but it was totally fine when I disabled smooth scrolling(prefer not to have it anyway). CPU usage was less than 30% which was only a momentary spike.
 

podspi

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Just tried it on my Atom-based tablet in Internet Explorer. No problems. I would say it is a software issue...
 

sm625

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Does one have an anti-virus, that is scanning the web content?

Yes it does. The core 2 machine has an antivirus running. That's probably the real culprit eh?


Edit: Nope. It's not the antivirus. I killed pretty much every running process on my system, including the antivirus. There is still a 400mS lag from the time I flick the mouse wheel to when the page actually begins scrolling. Ugh.

The sad thing is that when I remote into my home machine that has the i5 and run firefox remotely, it is still faster to surf ebay using logmein. lol is that sickening or what?
 
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Torn Mind

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I am using Waterfox on a rig (not mine) with an E2180, 2 gigs of RAM, Windows 7 Enterprise, and an old hard drive. With just one tab, scrolling is around 50-60% with some jerkiness. Faster scrolling can get both cores on the CPU to hit 77% with jerkiness.

With just one more tab "open" while the others are still closed until they are clicked, scrolling is a little jerky with both cores around 60-70%

I used the search terms "5770 -lexmark"

Interesting stuff.

The E2180 is slightly overclocked with Clockgen to 2084 Mhz
 
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