Firefox 1.5 Owns all!!!!

[GamerExpress]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: GamerExpress

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I appologize to you, since I guess I missed where you said you were the official AT Forum police. I suppose I should search next time since I have offended you greatly in my repetative posting on the topic of browsers.

Stuff it newbie. You should search before you post because it's the right thing to do.

OK, I now will bow to you, since I guess you are the Forum Police.

There you go with your piddly little attitude again. We don't want to hear it. We won't feel sorry for you. Stop it.

I can understand that you have a job to do here as the surrogate forum police, but really my point was why post something if it's non constructive.

You saw the title thread and then read some of the posts and then decided to post for yourself trying to flame me with your petty insults about being a newbie and for me to stuff it. I learned at a pretty early stage of my life if you don't have anything nice to say, well then just don't bother saying anything at all......I guess you missed that lesson.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I can understand that you have a job to do here as the surrogate forum police, but really my point was why post something if it's non constructive.

You saw the title thread and then read some of the posts and then decided to post for yourself trying to flame me with your petty insults about being a newbie and for me to stuff it. I learned at a pretty early stage of my life if you don't have anything nice to say, well then just don't bother saying anything at all......I guess you missed that lesson.

So it's ok for you to be rude and create ANOTHER thread on the same stupid topic as a number of other people, but it's bad if I be rude to you?

Go away. Please.

 

[GamerExpress]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I can understand that you have a job to do here as the surrogate forum police, but really my point was why post something if it's non constructive.

You saw the title thread and then read some of the posts and then decided to post for yourself trying to flame me with your petty insults about being a newbie and for me to stuff it. I learned at a pretty early stage of my life if you don't have anything nice to say, well then just don't bother saying anything at all......I guess you missed that lesson.

So it's ok for you to be rude and create ANOTHER thread on the same stupid topic as a number of other people, but it's bad if I be rude to you?

Go away. Please.

I wish I could be an elite member like you from bashing other peoples posts.

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: kamper

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
It sucks that there isn't a TRUE single web standard that allows all java, xml, and html to work the same across all platforms...

There are perfectly good standards for xml and html (and both). Java has nothing to do with web pages. The lack of proper standards implementations is far bigger than any lack of standards.

If the standards were better the implimentations wouldn't be so different.

Elaborate please. I understand that some things, like xmlhttprequest have to come from the implementors and will naturally be a little messy from a portability standpoint (although I think all the major js engines implement this example pretty well?) but I don't think too many web developers - at least the ones with brains - would have a problem sticking to standards and best practices if they could count on it working as intended. And if standards implementation was more up to date, then the people that make the standards would get quicker feedback and could improve them more quickly with the assurance that the improvements would actually be useable.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: kamper
Elaborate please. I understand that some things, like xmlhttprequest have to come from the implementors and will naturally be a little messy from a portability standpoint (although I think all the major js engines implement this example pretty well?) but I don't think too many web developers - at least the ones with brains - would have a problem sticking to standards and best practices if they could count on it working as intended. And if standards implementation was more up to date, then the people that make the standards would get quicker feedback and could improve them more quickly with the assurance that the improvements would actually be useable.

I thought the reason that IE, Opera, and gecko renderers did different things in some places was because the specifications were vague enough to be left to interpretation.

 

[Xylitol]

Hmmmmm
Well I guess that since people say that 1.5 is fast but a memeory hog... Do you think that they'll haveit use less ram?
Cuase im internested and im still in 1.07 and seems slower than the other comments

So...
Should I stick with 1.07 for now or wait for 1.5 to be updated...

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I thought the reason that IE, Opera, and gecko renderers did different things in some places was because the specifications were vague enough to be left to interpretation.

I'm not hugely into web design, but as far as I'm aware that's much less of a problem than clear-cut broken or non-existant implementations. I know with css there are some spacing issues where things will be a couple of pixels off and that can be a pain if you're trying to do something very specific, but it's something that can be worried about later.

An interesting area is some of the more fringe technologies like svg. Some browsers support it via a plugin, some now do it natively and some probably just plain don't do it at all and there's different code to get things to work (or not work...) in each. Even if people decide to do lots of svg it will be pointless on the www itself until the slowpoke catches up.

If browser writers would just flat out adopt xml like gecko is doing right now then there would be far fewer problems as the way things fit together is very easy to specify. Any code that doesn't conform simply destroys the entire page and that gets the web dev fixing bad code pretty quickly

 

[Malak]

Even though Opera was the fastest, it was never the reason I use it. 100x functionality > milliseconds of speed.

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: ribbon13

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
When people say a browser is fast WTF are they talking about???? I think it's psychological or something.....because on a cable connection opera=i.e.=FF for loading times. Any site I've gone to, and compared, it's basically a snap of the fingers for a page to load....

Even crazier. Optimized builds

Back and Forward button is alot slower than in the official release.

something is very screwy with that stipe buld....

 

[xtknight]

Try Opera with the "redraw instantly" option under prefs->advanced->browsing->Loading. You'll change your mind again. Opera is still faster for me for some operations. Main thing I like about FF 1.5 is more conservative spacing and padding than the last FF, and it got a MUCH-needed interface overhaul. But how come the scrolling is jerky, at least for this AT thread, with either smoothing scrolling on or off? FF actually may access it's cache a bit faster than Opera does with the reloads.

Just one thing that I can't stand (with every Mozilla and Netscape). Bold-faced and underlined text also bears a thinker underline. I hate that! It makes the pages look inconsistent IMO. But it's just a nitpick. I would appreciate if anyone could tell me how to fix that though. FF 1.5+FasterFox_turbocharge's back/forward still can't touch Opera 9's though.

 

[GamerExpress]

Originally posted by: xtknight
Try Opera with the "redraw instantly" option under prefs->advanced->browsing->Loading. You'll change your mind again. Opera is still faster for me for some operations. Main thing I like about FF 1.5 is more conservative spacing and padding than the last FF, and it got a MUCH-needed interface overhaul. But how come the scrolling is jerky, at least for this AT thread, with either smoothing scrolling on or off? FF actually may access it's cache a bit faster than Opera does with the reloads.

Just one thing that I can't stand (with every Mozilla and Netscape). Bold-faced and underlined text also bears a thinker underline. I hate that! It makes the pages look inconsistent IMO. But it's just a nitpick. I would appreciate if anyone could tell me how to fix that though. FF 1.5+FasterFox_turbocharge's back/forward still can't touch Opera 9's though.

Strange I have compared them both side by side in a number of diferent websites and I found FF to be faster than Opera about 80% of the time.

 

[beatle]

For those of you finding FF to have issues with some webpages (Yahoo music, Hotmail, etc.) try using the IE Tab extension.

 

[HexiumVII]

opera is still faster, while FF1.5 generally takes about .1 second, opera is still .1 seconds faster.

 

[JPB]

Extreme Tips: Speed Up FireFox
By: Andy Walker
Edit some critical settings to super charge the Firefox web browser's performance.


To jump start the speed of Firefox ability to load pages faster, check out these settings edits.

First, type "about:config" into the address bar and hit return. You'll see a bunch of settings. Scroll down and look for the following entries:

network.http.pipelining
network.http.proxy.pipelining
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests
Normally the browser will make one request to a Web page at a time.
When you enable pipelining it will make several at once, which really speeds up page loading.

Next, alter the entries as follows:

Set "network.http.pipelining" to "true" by right clicking on it and choosing "Toggle".
Set "network.http.proxy.pipelining" to "true"
Set "network.http.pipelining.maxrequests" to some number like 30. This means it will make 30 requests at once.
Lastly right-click anywhere and select New -> Integer. Name it "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" and set its value to "0". This value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on information it receives.

If you're using a broadband connection you'll load pages much faster now!

 

[tuteja1986]

i had memory leaks with FF 1.5