- Aug 26, 2001
Because the factual errors in the claims most truthers make are absolutely astounding. Not to mention the fact that the "conspiracy" they point to is amorphous and constantly changes depending on which parts of their "evidence" are thrown out.Originally posted by: KAZANI
The implosionworld article is full of erroneous claims which hurt its credibility. For instance, on commenting on ASSERTION #1:Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Go on to read the rest about your sulfidation and eutectic environment hocus pocus claims too. That's why I said previously that you clearly don't even know what those terms mean, but you continue to trot them out as if they are something significant in regard to the collapse. As the article from the Implosionworld experts state, there was no sign of controlled demolition so whatever caused the anomalies, it wasn't a CD. The article above also points out the lack of barium. If thermate was used, where's the barium. Another GLARING problem with your thermate scenario is that thermate leaves highly visible signs of residue on steel when used as a method of cutting. With the amount of thermate that would have been necessary to perform a controlled demolition of the towers and/or WTC7, there should have been large amounts of thermate residue readily visible yet not a single expert that examined the site notes anything of the sort.
But I'm sure you'll read the above, tightly clench your eyes together, put your head down, and bull on forward in your quest for conspiracy theorist stupid because no amount of reasoning or the exposure of your ignorance will stop you from espousing your "truth." Damn those multitudes of facts that completely argue against your claims and show them as empty and vapid. Full speed ahead on that truther train, regardless of the truth.
For guys who want to pose as super-experts on CD's they seem quite ignorant of widespread practices in their industry field:every implosion ever performed has followed the basic model of obliterating structural supports on the bottom few floors"first
Top-Down Controlled Demolition?
Another top-down CD
I would like to comment alot more further on this article but I can't be arsed with transfering text I want to quote by typing it, just because the authors put ludicrus restrictions on copying text on that pdf (nice retarding tactics ). If you want you may read a rebuttal at http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pil...dex.php?showtopic=5126 (although I don't endorse it in its entirety)
About barium in thermate: barium nitrate is only used in military-grade thermate and is not necessary for it to work. Its addition to thermite increases its thermal effect, creates flame in burning and reduces the ignition temperature. http://www.dodtechmatch.com/DO...ption&id=6766744&HL=ON
We can go back and forth with these arguments-counterarguments for a long time. Why can't you people accept the fact that truthers are not slabbering cretins who gobble up any piece of misinformation thrown at their way, without critical thought?
Please, outline a real conspiracy theory for me and explain who was involved because nobody seems to be able to do that.
Look at how the stupidity in this thread has proceeded:
- We had claims that there was molten steel which has been "ignored," only to hear that the NIST did anything BUT ignore it, they addressed their reasons for not considering it in part of their investigation.
- Then we had claims about explosives in the WTC buildings for which there isn't any evidence besides scattered reports from a few individuals claiming they heard someone else tell them there was a bomb in the building. The "explosions" that are "so obviously bombs" could basically be anything -- collapsing concrete, exploding power transformers, etc -- not to mention that the prime "explosive" most truthers cling to is thermite, which doesn't explode.
- Then we had claims that Larry Silverstein intentionally demolished the buildings. Not only does that make no financial sense whatsoever, but why would he be telling the FDNY to demolish a building?
- There are still the anti-Semetic claims that the Jews did it, but those are so ridiculous I don't think it's even worth addressing.
There are thousands of holes in the overall truther story and, instead of even addressing them, truthers bury there heads in the sand and latch onto the minutia.
A conspiracy like most truthers claim would have involved thousands of people, thousands upon thousands of pounds of explosives, miles of detonation cord, and months of discrete demolitions placing in three of the busiest buildings in Manhattan. After the towers came down, all of these people would need to be silenced and all possible shreds of evidence would need to be destroyed.
Yet, not a single person has stepped forward and said "I was involved in this conspiracy." None of the firemen who responded to 9/11 and passed away left any mention of a conspiracy. There isn't a single shred of evidence for a controlled demolition of any of the
Again, here is a list of the people involved according to event8horizon:
FDNY, NYPD, NIST, FEMA, CIA, Mossad, SA hijackers, Individuals who planted explosives, and Larry Silverstein (and I'm probably forgetting a few).
Thousands of people.
Thousands of people with nothing to gain by lying for the perpetrators of this attack. For example, why the hell would the NIST lie? Unless "the government" (who?) got to every single person in that agency, it's THEIR JOB to determine why buildings collapse.
Thousands of pounds of material.
No one has said anything.