finding the right water block

[bigKr33]

How is this water block? Silverprop Cyclone EvolutionSE i can't find anything of this block. The swiftech storm seems like a good choice, but really spendy. Just to give you an idea of what i'm buying for my liquid cooling system:

-thermochill pa120.2 (whenever i find one instock
-danger den D5 12v
-cpu block (undesided)
-mct-5 coolant or zerex
-tygon tubing 1/2"

I want a really good water block, but i want to try something different thats just as good as the storm, but for a lower price. Has anyone had experience with polarflo, or Danger den or even that cpu i posted above?

I'm just trying to keep my options open. I have an dual core opty that gets really hot so cooling is a major concern. So basically what i'm looking for is top notch cooling.

 

[sparkey]

i've got the tdx and am very happy with the performance of it idle is about 4* and load is about 10* above ambient with an opty 170 @ 1.55 v

the storm is the best performer on the market there's only a couple of degrees differance between the two

the deciding factor for me was which one clogs easier adn the storm with is jet inpingements does clog easier thats why i went with the tdx

hth tom

 

[bigKr33]

So whats your actually load temp because it seems that you have a pretty good overclock going. What are your temps when dual priming?

I hear that with a pretty decent water cooling setup with a cpu heavily overclocked like yours usually load is in the high 30c range for most and low 40c for some depending on the parts.

 

[aigomorla]

hi, the block is the most important piece of equiptment in a watercooling loop. If you can afford a thermochill, you shouldnt cheeze on the waterblock. All i have to say is since you have the pump (D5) for a storm. I would get the storm rev.2. Make sure its Revision 2. The storm is unbeatable, and anyone that has one will tell you hands down its the best block on the market right now. So do yourself a favor and invest the extra 20 dollars and just get the storm.

If you really cant afford the storm, then i dont see why you got the thermochill when the difference between the swiftech 2x120 and the thermochill is close to 3-4C. Yet the price difference between the storm and a (TDX or Apogee) can vary up to 5-7C, and you would of saved money because the swiftech rad is about 40 dollars cheaper!

But anyhow, a decient alternative would be either the DD TDX, or the apogee. Ive had the fortune to use a an apogee and its not a bad blocks. It kept my X2 cooler then my storm rev.1 for some wierd reason, but against my storm rev.2 theres no competition.

So do yourself the favor, just get the storm rev.2 and u wont ever have regrets on why you didnt buy it.

 

[sparkey]

thats above ambient temps my average ambient temperatures are at 27to 28 degrees cel. the load is with dual prime
tom

edit: i agree with aigomorla the storm is really the best on the market do a google for reviews

 

[Kakumba]

Yes, the storm is better, but to be honest, im still not certain its worth the cash. If you can afford it, then get it by all means, I would never tell you not to if you can (unless you are using TECs...) however, if its out of reach, then an Apogee, or TDX are both good choices.

otherwise, well done. it all looks good, tygon is the best, and Zerex is what I would recommend.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Kakumba
Yes, the storm is better, but to be honest, im still not certain its worth the cash. If you can afford it, then get it by all means, I would never tell you not to if you can (unless you are using TECs...) however, if its out of reach, then an Apogee, or TDX are both good choices.

otherwise, well done. it all looks good, tygon is the best, and Zerex is what I would recommend.

doesnt need zerex, he's using the overpriced coolant, and his overpriced but excellent radiator, hence he should have no problems affording the storm :X

No offense, but promochill is just about as effective as fluid XP and costs cheaper! Also yes the storm gets clogged if u dont properly flush the system. You should always flush your radiator for any lose particles.

 

[bigKr33]

I bought the storm block should be here some time next week, but really it doesn't matter because i can't start my build till i purchase the radiator (sold out), and the case which will take 6-9 days to get here once i order it. So it'll be a while yet, possibly the middle of may before everything will be here.

How does that swiftech 2x120mm radiator perform because honestly the thermochill is really expensive and its not even instock. The swiftech radiators i noticed are also made for lower cfm fans for maximum performance. Should be good for my 120x38, 69cfm panaflo

 

[aigomorla]

if you havent ordered the rad yet, i would suggest you getting the 2x120 swiftech quiet series. If your insistant on getting thermochil, id get a 3x120, as its not that much more expensive. Also 85% of all the thermochil owners that have a 2x120 always regret not getting the 3x120 version for a littel bit more.

Anyhow with the D5, storm and thermochil, your cooling should rock, all you need now is some waterblocks for video card and your set :]

 

[bigKr33]

Yeah as much as i want to purchase that triple rad its just so much money. And since i don't plan on purchasing a gpu block having that triple rad will do no more than just super cool my cpu...not that its a bad thing or anything, but i'd rather take advantage of the radiator instead of buying it as an alternative.

I'm going to be flat out broke after all this stuff is purchased, and buying that radiator will totally kill my budget. If its as good as they say it is then i just might consider, but it has to have pretty big advantage over the other radiators for me to buy the $100+ one.

 

[aigomorla]

heh if it makes you feel any better i think i dished out close to 325 on my entire watercooling loop. But think of it this way, like your case, the watercooling loop can be passed down from generation to generation, unless they decide to invent some freakishly sexy way of cooling so your computer can get major sub temps and then become a super conductor. But that would probably take something like liquid helium.

But hey we all can dream right?

 

[bigKr33]

Well the triple pa series radiator is going to be to tall now because i still have to fit my new fan controller and my optical drive. Also i have to use that 4-3 module to put my hard drive in. The case is 23" tall, but the radiator is 17inch tall which only leaves 6".

That 4-3 module is 5.25"x5.25x" which leaves .75", and i still haven't included my fan controller and optical drive.

I didn't bring this up, but i'm mounting the radiator in the front of the case. So waiting for the pa120.2 is my only option unless someone has a better idea for a radiator thats just as good as the pa120.2 by a small margin. I want a good performing radiator that is optimized for lower-medium cfm 120mm fans preferably a 2x120.

I would try the black ice pro II, but the radiator is too wide (5.9") to mount in the front. I'm trying to get by with very minimal modding for the case.

 

[aigomorla]

bleh, your pretty much stuck with that radiator then. Did you ever think about mounting it on the top?

 

[Nirach]

You in the UK, bigKr33?
If so http://store.over-clock.com/ThermoChill.html <-- It's in stock there.
Also, when you're fitting the PA120.2 be careful with the screws. If the supplied POS gasket tears (Two of mine did ) then you might want to get some shorter ones, they're long enough to pierce the tubes in the radiator. It's a nice rad though.

As for block, I'm quite happy with my thermochill block, but I'm hardly running a stressed processor So, I'd say go with the storm.

 

[Luckyboy1]

Danger Den

 

[bigKr33]

Originally posted by: Nirach
You in the UK, bigKr33?
If so http://store.over-clock.com/ThermoChill.html <-- It's in stock there.
Also, when you're fitting the PA120.2 be careful with the screws. If the supplied POS gasket tears (Two of mine did ) then you might want to get some shorter ones, they're long enough to pierce the tubes in the radiator. It's a nice rad though.

As for block, I'm quite happy with my thermochill block, but I'm hardly running a stressed processor So, I'd say go with the storm.

I don't live in the UK

And interms of mounting the radiator on top, i can't do that. I don't have the tools to do that, as well as the money.

I just want to know if theres a radiator as good as the therochill by a small margin, i for sure don't want crappy one because i'm buying highend cooling parts. I just purchased the storm block last night.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: bigKr33

Originally posted by: Nirach
You in the UK, bigKr33?
If so http://store.over-clock.com/ThermoChill.html <-- It's in stock there.
Also, when you're fitting the PA120.2 be careful with the screws. If the supplied POS gasket tears (Two of mine did ) then you might want to get some shorter ones, they're long enough to pierce the tubes in the radiator. It's a nice rad though.

As for block, I'm quite happy with my thermochill block, but I'm hardly running a stressed processor So, I'd say go with the storm.

I don't live in the UK

And interms of mounting the radiator on top, i can't do that. I don't have the tools to do that, as well as the money.

I just want to know if theres a radiator as good as the therochill by a small margin, i for sure don't want crappy one because i'm buying highend cooling parts. I just purchased the storm block last night.

swiftech 2x120 QP series. My current temps are 27 idle 35 load with ambient temps around 80. 1 CPU 2 GPU, overclock settings look in sig. This is also using 2 yate looms. You could get better performance if you used stronger fans, but i like the temps where they are and the noise. Only problem is there not as thin as thermochil, but they perform almost on par with BIX.