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Finally time to upgrade to Vista from XP? If so, why?

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Originally posted by: scttgrd
I imagine if you buy a new computer with Vista OEM, you are right no problems. But if you install on existing hardware are you telling me there will be no issues at all? Even if the hardware requirements are met? All the peripherals will work out of the box after install?
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Read the specs in my sig and you will see that I am running an old socket 939 AMD system I built in January 06. (I originally had a 7600GT with this Vista installation that I purchased 6 months before Vista was RTM.) I have not had one issue with drivers or anything after upgrading last summer. The only software I could not install was Nero, which was no big loss now that there are free programs that do what I need and are not resource hogs.


Originally posted by: scttgrd
As far as linux goes, I installed it, added some packages that were included and was up and running in an hour or two. This was my first install since Mandrake about 4 years ago. I'm a linux noob and had no problems. Until now I have been eager to move to the new OS, just not this time. I made the right move for me and others will do what they want. I just don't see how those of us who have no interest in Vista are wrong and are spreading FUD.
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I absolutely adore Linux and have installed all the major distros (and many of the minor ones too.) The problem with you is you come into this thread where the op was clearly not interested with Linux and began to troll. You want us to respect your preferences, then start respecting ours and quit trolling in threads that clearly are not about linux and taking us off topic. You started this, not us.
 
Troll? I never said once he or anyone else should switch to linux or any other OS. Don't start calling people trolls when you clearly can't understand what you are reading. If you can't see or understand that there are issues then I guess I can just stop reading your posts becasuse you will never get it.
 
Originally posted by: scttgrd
Troll? I never said once he or anyone else should switch to linux or any other OS. Don't start calling people trolls when you clearly can't understand what you are reading. If you can't see or understand that there are issues then I guess I can just stop reading your posts becasuse you will never get it.
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Pushing linux in a thread that is clearly not about linux is the very definition of trolling. Even bsobl (one of the moderators) is telling you that what you are doing is close to trolling. I understood what I read, but did you even read or understand the first post?

You sir are the one not getting it.
 
Originally posted by: scttgrd
Troll? I never said once he or anyone else should switch to linux or any other OS. Don't start calling people trolls when you clearly can't understand what you are reading. If you can't see or understand that there are issues then I guess I can just stop reading your posts becasuse you will never get it.
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There are issues with every OS even consoles have issues,no OS is 100% fool proof ,getting back on topic I keep saying I think Vista is the wise choice if you want DX10 features and future DX support down the road.

sofakng you have a DX10 card so might as well use those features at some point with Vista and DX10 gaming,you have stated yourself performance difference between XP and Vista is small.

Personally I find no performance difference between the two,if it is small like in your case then I'll take the added security advantage of Vista and longer life span over XP anytime.

End of the day its your call.
Btw did you install latest DX9.0c version(June 2008) in your Vista?..be surprised how many people think its only for 2K/XP.

DX9.0C link .
I also disabled Windows Defender real time scan (set mine to scan once a week) you really don't need that on all the time especially in gaming.

Good luck on whatever you decide to do.



 
Now that is a good reason to upgrade to Vista. Gamers with the newer cards will get the benefit of DX10. I wish micosoft would have left in the features that were promised but left out of Vista to get it released.
 
It's one thing to say you don't like Vista because of personal preference.

If you get facts wrong, you WILL be corrected. Don't cry about it. PC Magazine is the last source you should be quoting in a discussion such as this.

The fact is Vista is mature and perfectly suitable for gaming as an OS.

If you don't like it, good for you. If you like it, welcome to the silent majority. I personally couldn't care less if a million people prefer XP. It doesn't change my enjoyment of Vista. Do I care that millions of people like Michael Bolton? Nope. That doesn't stop me from listening to the music I like.

Sometimes the anti-Vista stuff just sounds like talk from sore losers. "It HAS to suck. It NEEDS to suck. if it doesn't, I have nothing to make fun of"
 
Originally posted by: scttgrd
I imagine if you buy a new computer with Vista OEM, you are right no problems. But if you install on existing hardware are you telling me there will be no issues at all? Even if the hardware requirements are met? All the peripherals will work out of the box after install?
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If the hardware is relatively new (with 3 years old) There should not be any more problems under vista than there is under XP.

I can't say the same thing about Linux though. I had a much easier time getting Vista Business to install on my 3 and a half year old Dell Laptop with all my hardware working than I did getting Ubuntu installed on it. Especially my Wireless N board.

Of course, any hardware made in the past year and a half should be perfectly fine under both Vista 32 and 64 bit versions too.

Keep in mind, Most people still recommend only changing OS's (any OS) if you have a specific need for the newer version or are buying/building a new system where you will need to start over anyway.

 
I am certainly not recomending anything, I know there are limitations in what I am using. I guess my point was lost when I brought up linux. I heard better secuity and reacted with one of the reasons I made my choice. Need and use should be the driving factor in making any change and it depends on the individual. Vista is slowly coming to maturity, I might have a look at the next windows OS if the promised features are included this time but for now I have the WAF (wife acceptance factor) going right now and I have pushed my luck enough.
 
Originally posted by: scttgrd
I am certainly not recomending anything, I know there are limitations in what I am using. I guess my point was lost when I brought up linux. I heard better secuity and reacted with one of the reasons I made my choice. Need and use should be the driving factor in making any change and it depends on the individual. Vista is slowly coming to maturity, I might have a look at the next windows OS if the promised features are included this time but for now I have the WAF (wife acceptance factor) going right now and I have pushed my luck enough.
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Linux isn't that secure.

The flaw in Debian's random number generator means that OpenSSL keys generated over the past 20 months are so predictable that an attacker can correctly guess them in a matter of hours. Not exactly a comforting thought when considering the keys in many cases are the only thing guarding an organization's most precious assets. Obtain the key and you gain instant access to trusted administrative accounts and the ability to spoof or spy on sensitive email and web servers.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...bian_openssl_hangover/
 
I will take my chances with what I have (that shalll remain nameless so I don't upset anyone). I have more faith in the community than the phone home OS.
 
Originally posted by: scttgrd
I will take my chances with what I have (that shalll remain nameless so I don't upset anyone). I have more faith in the community than the phone home OS.
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Have to throw out one last innacuracy at the end, right?
 
So, you are saying that no connection is made to any server that is not initiated by the user? No user data, nothing is transmitted? Have a better look at your logs. Why do you think I made the move after nearly 20 years on windows?
 
And when you are given access to the source code and can say for certain that no ability exists to make said connection let me know.
 
Originally posted by: scttgrd
I will take my chances with what I have (that shalll remain nameless so I don't upset anyone). I have more faith in the community than the phone home OS.
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Vista is a commercial OS dude, if it "phones home" we have no one to blame but ourselves, so to speak. It was the free-stuff-expecting folks in the "community" who gave birth to DRM. My install is more than welcome to verify its status every now and then. I paid for it fair and square, and gosh, I didn't mind doing so.

A quick word about Vista: It runs fine on my box.

Another quick word about your approach to this issue: If you're as satisfied with your rig as I am, and this you SEEM to be, why spend any time at all stabbing at an OS that you have no stake in?

On topic: Sofakng, I game hard on my box, mostly COD4, Crysis and Forged Alliance lately. I've played for hours with no hiccups or other annoying crap with VU64. As long as you're running well-matched, contemporary HW and support apps you should have the same experience.
 
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: scttgrd
I will take my chances with what I have (that shalll remain nameless so I don't upset anyone). I have more faith in the community than the phone home OS.
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Vista is a commercial OS dude, if it "phones home" we have no one to blame but ourselves, so to speak. It was the free-stuff-expecting folks in the "community" who gave birth to DRM. My install is more than welcome to verify its status every now and then. I paid for it fair and square, and gosh, I didn't mind doing so.

A quick word about Vista: It runs fine on my box.

Another quick word about your approach to this issue: If you're as satisfied with your rig as I am, and this you SEEM to be, why spend any time at all stabbing at an OS that you have no stake in?

On topic: Sofakng, I game hard on my box, mostly COD4, Crysis and Forged Alliance lately. I've played for hours with no hiccups or other annoying crap with VU64. As long as you're running well-matched, contemporary HW and support apps you should have the same experience.
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I was more trying to say use what you like not what the fanboys preach. But I admit I got more involved than I wanted to. I was trying to point out that whatever you use there are good and bad points, but the moment I said that bad word things went haywire. I use what I do because there is accountability and open code. I'm not sure why you think free software means free everything.:frown:
 
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: scttgrd
A) Ubuntu is very secure as well, and if making the switch is going to entail a learning curve why not go linux.
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This is close to trolling giving the OPs question.

B) The need to use 4+ gb of memory is also a Vista trait, so is this a need without Vista or just something users just want?
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And this further makes me think you don't know what your talking about.
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Thanks for the correspondence, it was enlightning.
 
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