Originally posted by: CTrain
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: CTrain
I stopped by a dealership and took a look at the car today.
I didn't bother test driving the car cause they didn't have a manual.
The car looks decent in person but there wasn't any wow factor looking at the car close up.
Looks the same as all the pictures I previously saw on the net.
The 17" wheels, even with 215/45/17 tires, looks like 14" wheels on that car.
One thing that did impress me was how much room there was with the back seat folded down.
There was nothing that would make me want to get rid of my 99 Civic Si.
OK, I lied, the hugh cargo room was a big plus.
The best thing about this car is all the included options for the price.
What I still don't get is in person, the car is about the same size as a RSX/Civic/Mazda 3, etc... but yet it weights close to 3000 lbs.
What were Toyota thinking ??? The whole point of them producing this car is to attract the "performace enthusiats" but at that weight, I don't care how much power you put in that car, it will not peform on the same level as a 2500 lbs car.
Here I wait for the Cobalt and see how it compares.
Who said that it was supposed to compete with a 2,500 lb vehicle?? You people can't have every damn thing. It's based on a European family sedan...they can't work miracles. It's about 130 lbs heavier than a Mazda 3s sedan and sits on a wheelbase 3" longer. Big whoop.
You get all of these features standard, Toyota build quality and reliablility (Mazda is good, but not that good), decent looks, peppy performance and a lower sticker price.
And you didn't even BOTHER to test drive the thing. Sure, the automatic is going to be slower, but you can still get an overall impression of the car before writing it off.
Why would I waste my time when I would never ever buy an auto if manual is an option ?
I just don't like driving an auto and never will.
If you go through the whole thread, I never made a comment dissing you on wanting to buy a tC.
I was adding my own impression since this is the tC thread at the moment.
Hmmm....isn't the main purpose of the tC to to appeal to the modificaion crowd ???
Afterall, they are selling this car way under value hoping to make that up by selling aftermarket parts.
So why would the modification crowd want a 3000lbs car as oppose to a 2500lbs car if they are performance enthusiats ???
This is the main reason why the Civic and Integra were so popular.
So Honda made a hugh mistake in their last generation Honda.
The model restyling change is coming in a year.
They will be bringing back a coupe Si.
So if Honda learned from their mistake and make a coupe Si closer to 2500lbs and increase in HP, which car will the modification crowd go after ??
Mazda is coming out with a Mazda 3 speed pretty soon too.
My point with the weight is that the tC is classified as a subcompact and subcompact is not suppose to weight close to 3000lbs.
One last thing that I've seen few people mentioned is that the not-so-decent gas milage the tC gets.
23/29 is hardly the norm for a subcompact car.
Hell, had Toyota made the Corolla XRS into a coupe I would have been alot more interest in that car than the tC.
The Corolla has the same dimension yet it weight closer to 2500lbs....now why couldn't they do the same with the tC ??
Better yet, take the XRS as comparision.....it weight a good 200+lbs less than the tC but has a little more room.....made from the same company.
It gets 26/34 and no doubt it also faster.
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