Finally test drove the Scion tC this morning.

[Maverick]

I already flamed NSF4 for his auto driving. After owning one for 2 years I tend to agree that it is sometimes a pain in the ass.

But if you're driving a 4 banger, a stickshift is almost a necessity. You get no power otherwise.

Besides it already sounds like that auto you test drove was having problems.

Also whatever happened to the common sense logic of not buying a car during its first model year run?

 

[NutBucket]

4100 @ highway speeds is VERY high. Hell, that's high compared to my tranny which is a fairly close-ratio 5 speed.

 

[fyleow]

Originally posted by: NFS4
I was doing maybe 65 and it was turning over at around 4,100 RPM. My Camry 4-banger is at about 3,100 RPMs at that same speed. The suspension soaked up potholes very well and I detected no noticeable body lean in corners.

Wow that is high for both cars! My 4 banger Passat is just under 3,000 RPMs at 80 mph (It is a 5 speed auto though). Our 2003 Corolla also gets 80 mph at 3,000 (4 speed auto)

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I don't believe that NFS4 can drive a stick :evil:

NFS4 can drive a stick

something tells me that NFS is pseudo-car-enthusiat....
every single car guy taht i know has manual DD (unless its an SUV), can't handle 3 pedals with 2 feel ?

80% - 85% of cars sold today are automatics. The entire alotment of tCs at that dealership are automatics.

And try selling a manual transmission car after you're done with it. Good luck!!!! My dad had a 5-speed vehicle a while back and when he put an ad in the paper to sell it, when the people found out it was a 5-speed, they kindly said no thanks

 

[CRXican]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: Passions
mwahahahhahaha auto tc....might as well get it painted in pink NFS4!!!!!!!!!!!!! mwahahahaha....

you may be joking but I think it's sad to buy that car with an auto

it's sad to buy that for 17k... might as well get a tiburon or something.

a tiburon???? you're joking right?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: NFS4
I was doing maybe 65 and it was turning over at around 4,100 RPM. My Camry 4-banger is at about 3,100 RPMs at that same speed. The suspension soaked up potholes very well and I detected no noticeable body lean in corners.

Wow that is high for both cars! My 4 banger Passat is just under 3,000 RPMs at 80 mph (It is a 5 speed auto though). Our 2003 Corolla also gets 80 mph at 3,000 (4 speed auto)

I seriously think the trannie was borked. Don't know WTF happened to it, but he said that ever since the car came in, they've had a steady stream of people test driving it a day (close to 15 people a day for a week).

 

[flot]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: NFS4
I was doing maybe 65 and it was turning over at around 4,100 RPM. My Camry 4-banger is at about 3,100 RPMs at that same speed. The suspension soaked up potholes very well and I detected no noticeable body lean in corners.

Wow that is high for both cars! My 4 banger Passat is just under 3,000 RPMs at 80 mph (It is a 5 speed auto though). Our 2003 Corolla also gets 80 mph at 3,000 (4 speed auto)

I seriously think the trannie was borked. Don't know WTF happened to it, but he said that ever since the car came in, they've had a steady stream of people test driving it a day (close to 15 people a day for a week).

Gee, great car you're buying there. Been driven 90 times and the tranny is broken...

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Maverick
I already flamed NSF4 for his auto driving. After owning one for 2 years I tend to agree that it is sometimes a pain in the ass.

But if you're driving a 4 banger, a stickshift is almost a necessity. You get no power otherwise.

Besides it already sounds like that auto you test drove was having problems.

Also whatever happened to the common sense logic of not buying a car during its first model year run?

I thought that I had the trannie stuck in (2) or something, but that wasn't the case.

 

[MrScott81]

Originally posted by: flot

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: NFS4
I was doing maybe 65 and it was turning over at around 4,100 RPM. My Camry 4-banger is at about 3,100 RPMs at that same speed. The suspension soaked up potholes very well and I detected no noticeable body lean in corners.

Wow that is high for both cars! My 4 banger Passat is just under 3,000 RPMs at 80 mph (It is a 5 speed auto though). Our 2003 Corolla also gets 80 mph at 3,000 (4 speed auto)

I seriously think the trannie was borked. Don't know WTF happened to it, but he said that ever since the car came in, they've had a steady stream of people test driving it a day (close to 15 people a day for a week).

Gee, great car you're buying there. Been driven 90 times and the tranny is broken...

exactly what i was thinking....

 

[RossMAN]

What size wheels?

What kind of bumper to bumper warranty?

 

[StageLeft]

80% - 85% of cars sold today are automatics. The entire alotment of tCs at that dealership are automatics.

And try selling a manual transmission car after you're done with it. Good luck!!!! My dad had a 5-speed vehicle a while back and when he put an ad in the paper to sell it, when the people found out it was a 5-speed, they kindly said no thanks

And 80-85% of people are not car enthusiasts If you're selling a 5 speed to the slushbox driving lifeless sheep in this world it will be a tough sale, but similarly if you're selling a slushbox to somebody who wants a 5 speed, you'll just not get a sale. The market is, in this sense, basically two markets. Some people refuse to drive a 5 speed, and others refuse to drive an automatic. I'd have had to get an outrageous deal on either of my cars to have considered driving an autotragic.

 

[dman]

You don't even sound like you like the car, yet, you are going to get it anyway?

odd.

 

[TheAudit]

You didn't like any of the options for the car?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
What size wheels?

What kind of bumper to bumper warranty?

17"

3/36,000

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: TheAudit
You didn't like any of the options for the car?

The car comes fully loaded. The only options are manual vs automatic or side airbags vs no side airbags. Everything else is TRD stuff.

 

[MrScott81]

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: CRXican
you may be joking but I think it's sad to buy that car with an auto

it's sad to buy that for 17k... might as well get a tiburon or something.

a tiburon???? you're joking right?

Hey what's wrong with a Tiburon? But let's not start another Hyundai flame war inside NFS's thread.

 

[MrScott81]

I would wait at least a year for them to work any kinks out

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: MrScott81
I would wait at least a year for them to work any kinks out

I'm ready to ditch the Camry 145,000 miles on it already.

 

[Maverick]

lol does anyone here think he's actually making a good decision here?

Don't take it personally NSF4, but most of us know you've been new car shopping for a while so this purchase seems very impulsive and stupid to a lot of us.
Especially for someone who knows cars pretty well.

 

[flot]

Originally posted by: dman
You don't even sound like you like the car, yet, you are going to get it anyway?

odd.

I agree. The review basically said mediocre, mediocre, medicore... so I'm going to buy it.

I think NFS4 may be a woman.

Seriously dude, just admit that it's an ok car but you're buying it for the looks. We'll understand.

 

[CChaos]

Congrats on the soon-to-be new wheels. I'm not sure why every idiot in this thread is deciding how to spend your money. Oh wait, it's ATOT.

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: Maverick
lol does anyone here think he's actually making a good decision here?

Don't take it personally NSF4, but most of us know you've been new car shopping for a while so this purchase seems very impulsive and stupid to a lot of us.
Especially for someone who knows cars pretty well.

He's hinted for a while that he's looking to replace his 95' Camry.

For a while, he wanted the Mazda 3 and now this.

We all know deep down inside, he lusts after a VW Cabriolet convertible (made in Mexico)

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: duke
Nice, but I still think the Mazda3 S is a better deal.

Agreed!

My Miata does 75mph in 5th gear at 3,900rpm.

1.6L 4-cylinder with 116 HP (@6500) / 100 lbs.-ft. torque (@5500) with 5-speed manual.

 

[MrScott81]

Originally posted by: flot

Originally posted by: dman
You don't even sound like you like the car, yet, you are going to get it anyway?

odd.

I agree. The review basically said mediocre, mediocre, medicore... so I'm going to buy it.

I think NFS4 may be a woman.

Seriously dude, just admit that it's an ok car but you're buying it for the looks. We'll understand.

winnar.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: flot

Originally posted by: dman
You don't even sound like you like the car, yet, you are going to get it anyway?

odd.

I agree. The review basically said mediocre, mediocre, medicore... so I'm going to buy it.

I think NFS4 may be a woman.

Seriously dude, just admit that it's an ok car but you're buying it for the looks. We'll understand.

(1) I said that the trannie was acting funny...that's something maybe specific to just that particular demo
(2) I said performance was adequate. VERY comparable to the Mazda 3s. It's just as fast as anything else in this class and definitely quicker than my GF's '04 Civic EX which is GUTLESS and cost just as much as this tC
(3) Headroom. As long as my head isn't touching up front, I could care less. My head didn't touch with the hat, and I don't normally wear a hat when I drive anyway. F*&k the people in the back seat
(4) Everything else was superb.