Finally rented/watched A.I. (spoilers)

[Smaulz]

Good heavens.... I can't believe I sat through that whole thing! I guess it was kinda like a car wreck - horrible, but you can't turn away.... That movie was, without a doubt, the worst piece of drawn-out, over-done, ignorant piece of tripe it's ever been my displeasure to witness. I'm one of those guys that can usually find something good about almost any movie made.... that wasn't one of 'em. What the hell was Spielberg thinking?????

 

[Linux23]

let us know what you're really think there Smaulz.:Q

 

[datalink7]

Overall, I thought there were too many flaws for the movie to be considered good. But it did have its memorable parts. I thought the arena where they were destroying the robots was well done for instance.

 

[Positron]

I saw a thread on this a while back. It was pretty much you love it or hate it movie. I liked it, but i'm a sci-fi nut anyway, so I think the androids is what kept my interest.

 

[PlatinumGold]

you poor soul.

i kept waiting for something to happen to.

this definitely ranks as one of the worst movies i've ever seen.

 

[kami]

A.I.'s one of the best movie's I've seen.

we all have different tastes. The movie was half spielberg and half kubrick...definitely a recipe for disaster but it worked for me. I love the film

 

[EXman]

I still cannot figure out If I like it alot or Hate it ....

the end was unexpected and kinda ridiculas IMHO

 

[Noriaki]

<< I pity those who can't appreciate it >>

Why? What is so great about this movie?

It's half Kubrik weirdness and half Spielberg over emotional crap.
The storyline has tons of flaws, and the ending is ridiculous.

"We can revive her memory across time, but only for one day. You can never replay the same time strand twice." What kind of hokey BS is that?

Come on....this is not a quality movie. It had it's moments...but overall it was really really flawed, and not very interesting.


What is so great about it, that you pity people that can't appreciate it?

 

[Nefrodite]

so did you think they were aliens at the end too ? blah, its a love it or hate it movie. i liked it very much of course, its one of my favorites. heres the older thread on it so things don't have to be said over again faqs, explanations..more reasons to hate it.. whatever


instead of starting an useless debate with only haters chiming in because its easier to tear down then provide any insight, read this thread first. We're weary of ai threads, the same arguements cropped up for the nth time

Did you love or hate AI anandtech ot thread- read this first

 

[ronein]

I fell asleep half way through the movie.
Considering it was over two hours long, thats an hours sleep at least

 

[kami]

<<

<< I pity those who can't appreciate it >>

Why? What is so great about this movie?

It's half Kubrik weirdness and half Spielberg over emotional crap.
The storyline has tons of flaws, and the ending is ridiculous.

"We can revive her memory across time, but only for one day. You can never replay the same time strand twice." What kind of hokey BS is that?

Come on....this is not a quality movie. It had it's moments...but overall it was really really flawed, and not very interesting.


What is so great about it, that you pity people that can't appreciate it? >>

it's not even worth it man. you hate it and you've made up your mind. why get into some senseless and fruitless debates?
i liked it and have made up my mind.

let's leave it at that.

and i've removed my pity comment for you.....

 

[Noriaki]

<<

it's not even worth it man. you hate it and you've made up your mind. why get into some senseless and fruitless debates?
i liked it and have made up my mind.

let's leave it at that.

and i've removed my pity comment for you..... >>



You mistake me. I am always open to knew viewpoints if people are willing to share them. I had a long ongoing discussion with a Christian about why he loves God, and I don't believe in God.
Just because I disagree with someone on something, doesn't mean that there is no value to a discussion. If I only ever talked to other people who didn't like the movie, our conversations would not be very detailed. We would all agree that we dislike and go on to talk about something else.

I didn't ask you for a debate (which is a forum in which two parties try to convince each other of their view points, I don't think there is much you could say that would convince me AI is a good movie), I asked you for a discussion why you felt that this movie was so great that you pity anyone that doesn't like it.

I don't like it, but if you do that's fine. But you seem to feel that this movie is so incredibly great that anyone who doesn't like it deserves pity. And I ask you why. I'm not asking you to convince me to like it. I'm just wondering what aspect of this movie makes it so incredible to you. That just seemed like a really strong statement.

To me a statement like that would put it on the levels of classics, like I don't know...ET maybe. Just to pick one off the top of my head.

My intention was not to make you backpedal from your position, I simple want to know what you found so great about it. Maybe it was just a hyperbole...and if that is the case I apologize for picking it out.

If you just felt that you enjoyed the movie, that's fine, for any movie some will enjoy it and some won't. That's just the way thing go.
But to make a statement like anyone who can't enjoy it desreves pity, in my mind needs some support. You can't simply make a statement like that without backing it up.

My apologies if this was just meant to be a hyperbole.

And I'm sorry if you feel that a discussion of viewpoints would be senseless and fruitless. I will try to remember that for the future. I however am always looking for an opportunity to expand my views, and that's all I was shooting for here. I was not trying to "get in your face", or start a senseless debate.
And discussions that may have fallen out had a purpose to me, I'm sorry you don't feel that way.

 

[911paramedic]

It was one of those movies that you keep watching because you KNOW there must be something better coming up. Much to my dismay, it never happened.

What a steaming pile.

 

[Hubris]

Funny, I just saw it for the first time last night. I thought it was a pretty good movie, though the ending sucked majorly. That was just tacked on, and smacks of Speilberg. I'm betting that Kubrick wouldn't have put in the happy ending, but made it more about how the vision of humanity can sometimes corrupt horribly. But it definitely had its good moments; the arena being one of the best.

 

[Chadder007]

Oh man I loved that movie!!!! Rented it a week ago, I think Ill buy it.
Sorry that you didnt' like it though, different tastes
I thought the ending was very unique....having the evolved androids....who the crap thinks their aliens anyway?

 

[Nefrodite]

about half the population apparently

 

[StormRider]

<< Funny, I just saw it for the first time last night. I thought it was a pretty good movie, though the ending sucked majorly. That was just tacked on, and smacks of Speilberg. I'm betting that Kubrick wouldn't have put in the happy ending, but made it more about how the vision of humanity can sometimes corrupt horribly. But it definitely had its good moments; the arena being one of the best.
>>



Actually, this is a common misconception. The ending is exactly how Kubrick wanted it. I've seen bits of the original script that Kubrick was working on (some website published it) and Speilberg was faithful to Kubrick's vision.

Incidently, this is one of those movies where you either loved it or hate it. I'm one of those who loved it. For some reason it struck an emotional cord for me and was one of those movies that I couldn't get out of my head -- it made me think about the nature of life.

 

[Ameesh]

i liked it for the cinematogrpahy.

 

[XZeroII]

It's sitting right in front of me now...i'm terrified of it...

 

[Smaulz]

Well, I'm glad I'm not alone in my feelings regarding that particular cinematic abortion. As for the ones who liked it, you're more than welcome to your opinion... I just don't see it.

 

[Noriaki]

<< It's sitting right in front of me now...i'm terrified of it... >>

you should watch it. I'ts a movie everyone has to watch once. I didn't like it, but many people did. But either way you should watch it at least once.

I have a feeling that history will remember this movie.

 

[kami]

OK Noriaki I'll try to give you a worth response then ...

Well first of all I think you are right that this film will definitely be remembered. Kubrick's films were usually greeted with very mixed audience reaction (AND critical reaction) and then later on many of them get regarded by many as classics. I think it's because the depth of some of their themes which may not be apparent on first viewing to large portion of the audience and IMO A.I. is one of these movies.

I'm not saying that anyone who doesn't "get it" is lacking intellectually, you just have to see the films in the right frame of mind for them to start working their magic, including A.I.

Taking into perspective all of Kubrick's movies, he had a consistent theme of man's inhumanity to man. A.I. is a capstone to that philosophy. Not only has man managed to kill his species off, he has very possibly created a race of machines that adore him, even though in Kubrick's world, man is pretty much a bastard to himself and others. Finally, at the end of the movie, man (David's mother) has been reduced to the level of a "one-night-stand." It doesn't get more nasty than that.

What also pisses me off is people who think it's not how Kubrick would've handled it...sure it's not exactly, but looking at Spielberg's recent films, he wouldn't know irony if it hit him in the face, and Kubrick was all about irony. The ending of A.I. is tragic, utterly misanthropic, and melancholic, but has the tone of a Hallmark card. How is this not ironic?

None of the joy or happiness in the final act of the film is based on reality. Teddy also makes in the last scene of the film. It's chilling, and no where near being a disney-like, lets-be-happy ending. Also, David never really fulfilled his quest, although on the surface he may have. It also kills me to see people say the movie should've stopped underwater when he was wishing to the blue fairy... since the whole arc of the movie is Bill Hurt talking about robots who can dream. The story needed to be wrapped up more.

OK this is turning more into a rant about the (IMO) silly reasons a lot of people give for not liking the movie so I'll try to sum up why the movie intrigued me...err...

A.I. basically takes the concept of "true love" and ends up finding it not that impressive. It makes us question the ethics of cloning and playing God. Gigolo Joe, who is just a prostitute mecha, learns more real feelings or even "love" (i used that lightly) from a boy-bot named David, who he himself will never know true love himself due to a paradox in his programming. It makes me think about some of our environmental policies like the threat of global warming, and even nuclear arms.
A.I., to me, is just a foreboding "fairy tale" (if you will)...a bleak hypothesis for the end of humankind.

Yeah this is mostly rant and doesn't clearly answer your question, but i think the fact that the movie made me think of all this stuff is why I like it so much. It's deeper than it is on the surface IMO. To be honest, I can't think of any real-life friends who truly loved the movie, so I know I am in the minority

 

[JediHacker]

A.I.sucks.

 

[kami]

<< A.I.sucks. >>


Call the cows home! the god of movie critics, jedihacker, has spoken.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Russ]

I'll be watching it this weekend. Wasn't sure about this one, so when it was out at Blockbuster, I grabbed a freebie raincheck.

Russ, NCNE