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Finally my tax dollars at work

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Stumps

Diamond Member
Finally after many years of working my butt off, paying my taxes without seeing any real benifit, the Australian Liberal government commits $1billion dollars for the Tsunami victims.
All I can say is about bloody time they did something worth while, we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia.
At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
To add to that the Australian public have donated inexcess of $120 million dollars and with a charity cricket match and other events happening it will surely rise.
That makes me proud to be an Australian...for a change!
 
hey look I was wrong about the public donations, it's now $140 million..that makes me warm and fuzzy, I'm glad my $500 is apart of that, pity about my video card upgrade..anybody want to donate a GF6600GT for my video card relief?
 
Originally posted by: Stumps
we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia. At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
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WTF? Crap hospital system? Any person in this country can receive top notch treatment at hospital, with no out of pocket costs. 5 hrs is not a long wait in an emergency room, compare that with waiting times in hospitals in other countries. Where are you driving, to be getting damage to your suspension? Is it realistic to dismiss our police force as "crap" because they are unable to retrieve a stolen item? Double the amount of money you spend on policing, and they'd still have problems retrieving stolen items. You seem to have a glass half empty perspective.
 
Originally posted by: Stumps
Finally after many years of working my butt off, paying my taxes without seeing any real benifit, the Australian Liberal government commits $1billion dollars for the Tsunami victims.
All I can say is about bloody time they did something worth while, we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia.
At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
To add to that the Australian public have donated inexcess of $120 million dollars and with a charity cricket match and other events happening it will surely rise.
That makes me proud to be an Australian...for a change!
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Living in America this sounds very similar to my experince when I broke my arm and had to wait for ages to get treated even though I had health insurance. Hell I didn't even bother with the ambulance ride because I knew that it would of been another costly expense that Health Net my insurance provider would try to pin on me to pay for instead and they did ! I spent the good part of a month talking to Health Net rep's and supervisors on the phone explaining my case to them.

Also the samething happen to my mother recently. She fell hit her head and had to go to the hospital. She has health insurance with Health Net as well but they have given her nothing but grief because they are trying to get her to foot the bill for the medical expenses.
 
He's right
1.077bil from gov't and 135mil private AUD = 918.4 USD.

Please note the site includes public, private, military, corporate, individual and NGO aid.
 
What do the politicians care? Its not their money. They can "donate" to every charity on the face of the planet and take tons of credit.
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
He's right
1.077bil from gov't and 135mil private AUD = 918.4 USD.

Please note the site includes public, private, military, corporate, individual and NGO aid.
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Where does it say that it includes military aid? It says:

The figures do not include the cost of operating military resources deployed to provide aid, and it is unclear how this should be quantified. While some would argue that military resources are already paid for and that the relief effort can be regarded as a logistics training exercise, the increased operational costs are an unbudgeted expenditure. Others would argue that the military resources provide the only infrastructure that will deliver aid in a timely manner to save lives to the hardest hit and neediest areas, and without this quickly deployable infrastructure the other contributions, no matter how large would be useless or arrive too late.
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Where does it say that it includes military aid? It says:
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There's a huge chart with all military. Takes up half the site.
example:
Military: The United States has dispatched numerous C-5 Galaxy and C-17 Globemaster III strategic airlifters and ten C-130 Hercules tactical airlifters containing disaster supplies, nine P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft for search and rescue support, and several teams from the Departments of State and Defense to coordinate additional assistance. They are using Utapao Naval Air Base in Thailand as their regional hub. Additionally, the United States has offered assistance from its troops stationed in Japan. USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier battle group, which was in port in Hong Kong, was dispatched to the coast of Sumatra to provide support to the Indonesian province of Aceh. In addition, a amphibious battlegroup led by USS Bonhomme Richard, scheduled for a port call in Guam, were dispatched to render assistance. A total of 48 Navy and Marine Corps helicopters are involved. Each ship can produce around 90,000 US gallons of fresh water per day. The US Navy has also deployed the USNS Mercy, a 1,000-bed hospital ship (to be initially staffed to support 250 patient beds). More than 12,600 Department of Defense personnel are involved in the relief effort.[90]
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example #2:
Military/Professional ? As part of Australia's aid-assistance, the Australian Defence Force (ADF) is working extensively in the region, alongside American forces. Upwards on 900 unarmed personnel are working in Indonesia, including 15 air-traffic controllers managing the massive aid effort in Aceh. Eight Royal Australian Air Force C-130 Hercules are currently assisting in the massive clean-up in Indonesia. Four Hercules are moving stores within Indonesia, while another four planes are establishing an air bridge to move material and personnel from Australia. At the outbreak of the disaster, three were immediately dispatched, laden with essentials such as medical supplies, water purification units, blankets and bottled water. Also, a Royal Australian Navy amphibious transport ship HMAS Kanimbla was dispatched from Sydney on New Year's Eve, to arrive in Indonesia on January 13, with two H-3 Sea King helicopters on board. Furthermore, four Australian Army UH-1 Iroquois helicopters are working in Aceh, where the ADF has established a field hospital and water plant. The Australian Federal Police (AFP) also has teams on the ground, particularly in Thailand, including body identification teams. Teams of medical and emergency professionals are being continuingly sent with the call going out for volunteers ready and willing to fly to the affected areas to further assist with the relief and rebuilding operation. In response to a request from the Maldivian Government, Australia has sent ecological experts to repair coral reefs - the life-blood of Maldivian tourism - and teachers to restore schooling. The estimated cost of this additional support is above AUD 60 million (USD 46.5m), and is being managed by Emergency Management Australia (EMA).
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Where does it say that it includes military aid? It says:
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There's a huge chart with all military.
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Hmmm.. I thought you meant that the total aid numbers included military aid expenditures. My apologies.
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No worries...that stuff is insanely hard to estimate...do you take costs above what would be spent on training missions or patroling?...do you take into account R&D of the equipment?...cost of equipment?...labour?...etc.

Pretty much can only take the descriptions.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia. At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
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WTF? Crap hospital system? Any person in this country can receive top notch treatment at hospital, with no out of pocket costs. 5 hrs is not a long wait in an emergency room, compare that with waiting times in hospitals in other countries. Where are you driving, to be getting damage to your suspension? Is it realistic to dismiss our police force as "crap" because they are unable to retrieve a stolen item? Double the amount of money you spend on policing, and they'd still have problems retrieving stolen items. You seem to have a glass half empty perspective.
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A 5hr wait when you have private health insurance is ridiculous, especially when you are the only one in the emergancy room, which had to be opened at 9pm, because it had been closed due to budget cuts.
I have a sister and numerous friends who work in the NSW hospital system and they say it stinks, budget cuts have lead to reduced staff numbers which has adversly affected the quality of our health care.

Why is it in Victora, most roads are less than 20yrs old, and yet in NSW with the exception of the Hume Highway most roads are pre 1960's roads and are nothing more than tared goat tracks.

When you are told by a police officer that "we won't bother to find your car or follow it up, just contact your insurer" and "What type of car was it? A VL Turbo, well serve you right for driving one of those around Penrith" you seem to wonder what the hell your taxes are paying for.

Obviously you have been living with your head in the sand to not notice the poor state of things here, I can't speak for the states outside of NSW but here the government seems more content with giving themselves pay rises rather than fis the things that the public complain so much about.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia. At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
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WTF? Crap hospital system? Any person in this country can receive top notch treatment at hospital, with no out of pocket costs. 5 hrs is not a long wait in an emergency room, compare that with waiting times in hospitals in other countries. Where are you driving, to be getting damage to your suspension? Is it realistic to dismiss our police force as "crap" because they are unable to retrieve a stolen item? Double the amount of money you spend on policing, and they'd still have problems retrieving stolen items. You seem to have a glass half empty perspective.
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You gotta be shitting me. You think a 5 HOUR wait time in an EMERGENCY ROOM is good? Where the hell have you been living the last 30 years?
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia. At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
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WTF? Crap hospital system? Any person in this country can receive top notch treatment at hospital, with no out of pocket costs. 5 hrs is not a long wait in an emergency room, compare that with waiting times in hospitals in other countries. Where are you driving, to be getting damage to your suspension? Is it realistic to dismiss our police force as "crap" because they are unable to retrieve a stolen item? Double the amount of money you spend on policing, and they'd still have problems retrieving stolen items. You seem to have a glass half empty perspective.
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You gotta be shitting me. You think a 5 HOUR wait time in an EMERGENCY ROOM is good? Where the hell have you been living the last 30 years?
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I would guess Australia.
 
Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia. At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
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WTF? Crap hospital system? Any person in this country can receive top notch treatment at hospital, with no out of pocket costs. 5 hrs is not a long wait in an emergency room, compare that with waiting times in hospitals in other countries. Where are you driving, to be getting damage to your suspension? Is it realistic to dismiss our police force as "crap" because they are unable to retrieve a stolen item? Double the amount of money you spend on policing, and they'd still have problems retrieving stolen items. You seem to have a glass half empty perspective.
Click to expand...

A 5hr wait when you have private health insurance is ridiculous, especially when you are the only one in the emergancy room, which had to be opened at 9pm, because it had been closed due to budget cuts.
I have a sister and numerous friends who work in the NSW hospital system and they say it stinks, budget cuts have lead to reduced staff numbers which has adversly affected the quality of our health care.

Why is it in Victora, most roads are less than 20yrs old, and yet in NSW with the exception of the Hume Highway most roads are pre 1960's roads and are nothing more than tared goat tracks.

When you are told by a police officer that "we won't bother to find your car or follow it up, just contact your insurer" and "What type of car was it? A VL Turbo, well serve you right for driving one of those around Penrith" you seem to wonder what the hell your taxes are paying for.

Obviously you have been living with your head in the sand to not notice the poor state of things here, I can't speak for the states outside of NSW but here the government seems more content with giving themselves pay rises rather than fis the things that the public complain so much about.
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Were you at a private or public hospital? Why would health insurance make any difference if you're at a public hospital? The hospital system could do with more funding but it doesn't 'stink' - certainly it is far better than what you have in the US, where huge numbers of people are completely without health insurance. The roads I travel on are in perfect condition, where do you live? So you got an asshole police officer, too bad, but that doesn't mean the entire police force is 'crap'. And yes, it does serve you right for driving a VL turbo in Penrith, or anywhere else for that matter, you deserve to have lots of bad things happen to you for driving such an absurd car.

 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia. At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
Click to expand...

WTF? Crap hospital system? Any person in this country can receive top notch treatment at hospital, with no out of pocket costs. 5 hrs is not a long wait in an emergency room, compare that with waiting times in hospitals in other countries. Where are you driving, to be getting damage to your suspension? Is it realistic to dismiss our police force as "crap" because they are unable to retrieve a stolen item? Double the amount of money you spend on policing, and they'd still have problems retrieving stolen items. You seem to have a glass half empty perspective.
Click to expand...

A 5hr wait when you have private health insurance is ridiculous, especially when you are the only one in the emergancy room, which had to be opened at 9pm, because it had been closed due to budget cuts.
I have a sister and numerous friends who work in the NSW hospital system and they say it stinks, budget cuts have lead to reduced staff numbers which has adversly affected the quality of our health care.

Why is it in Victora, most roads are less than 20yrs old, and yet in NSW with the exception of the Hume Highway most roads are pre 1960's roads and are nothing more than tared goat tracks.

When you are told by a police officer that "we won't bother to find your car or follow it up, just contact your insurer" and "What type of car was it? A VL Turbo, well serve you right for driving one of those around Penrith" you seem to wonder what the hell your taxes are paying for.

Obviously you have been living with your head in the sand to not notice the poor state of things here, I can't speak for the states outside of NSW but here the government seems more content with giving themselves pay rises rather than fis the things that the public complain so much about.
Click to expand...

Were you at a private or public hospital? Why would health insurance make any difference if you're at a public hospital? The hospital system could do with more funding but it doesn't 'stink' - certainly it is far better than what you have in the US, where huge numbers of people are completely without health insurance. The roads I travel on are in perfect condition, where do you live? So you got an asshole police officer, too bad, but that doesn't mean the entire police force is 'crap'. And yes, it does serve you right for driving a VL turbo in Penrith, or anywhere else for that matter, you deserve to have lots of bad things happen to you for driving such an absurd car.
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Why are you talking about the US in your nationalistic rage? He's from Australia.
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia. At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
Click to expand...

WTF? Crap hospital system? Any person in this country can receive top notch treatment at hospital, with no out of pocket costs. 5 hrs is not a long wait in an emergency room, compare that with waiting times in hospitals in other countries. Where are you driving, to be getting damage to your suspension? Is it realistic to dismiss our police force as "crap" because they are unable to retrieve a stolen item? Double the amount of money you spend on policing, and they'd still have problems retrieving stolen items. You seem to have a glass half empty perspective.
Click to expand...

A 5hr wait when you have private health insurance is ridiculous, especially when you are the only one in the emergancy room, which had to be opened at 9pm, because it had been closed due to budget cuts.
I have a sister and numerous friends who work in the NSW hospital system and they say it stinks, budget cuts have lead to reduced staff numbers which has adversly affected the quality of our health care.

Why is it in Victora, most roads are less than 20yrs old, and yet in NSW with the exception of the Hume Highway most roads are pre 1960's roads and are nothing more than tared goat tracks.

When you are told by a police officer that "we won't bother to find your car or follow it up, just contact your insurer" and "What type of car was it? A VL Turbo, well serve you right for driving one of those around Penrith" you seem to wonder what the hell your taxes are paying for.

Obviously you have been living with your head in the sand to not notice the poor state of things here, I can't speak for the states outside of NSW but here the government seems more content with giving themselves pay rises rather than fis the things that the public complain so much about.
Click to expand...

Were you at a private or public hospital? Why would health insurance make any difference if you're at a public hospital? The hospital system could do with more funding but it doesn't 'stink' - certainly it is far better than what you have in the US, where huge numbers of people are completely without health insurance. The roads I travel on are in perfect condition, where do you live? So you got an asshole police officer, too bad, but that doesn't mean the entire police force is 'crap'. And yes, it does serve you right for driving a VL turbo in Penrith, or anywhere else for that matter, you deserve to have lots of bad things happen to you for driving such an absurd car.
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Why are you talking about the US in your nationalistic rage? He's from Australia.
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I wasn't aware that I was in a rage. Yes, I know he is in Australia. What is your point?
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia. At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
Click to expand...

WTF? Crap hospital system? Any person in this country can receive top notch treatment at hospital, with no out of pocket costs. 5 hrs is not a long wait in an emergency room, compare that with waiting times in hospitals in other countries. Where are you driving, to be getting damage to your suspension? Is it realistic to dismiss our police force as "crap" because they are unable to retrieve a stolen item? Double the amount of money you spend on policing, and they'd still have problems retrieving stolen items. You seem to have a glass half empty perspective.
Click to expand...

A 5hr wait when you have private health insurance is ridiculous, especially when you are the only one in the emergancy room, which had to be opened at 9pm, because it had been closed due to budget cuts.
I have a sister and numerous friends who work in the NSW hospital system and they say it stinks, budget cuts have lead to reduced staff numbers which has adversly affected the quality of our health care.

Why is it in Victora, most roads are less than 20yrs old, and yet in NSW with the exception of the Hume Highway most roads are pre 1960's roads and are nothing more than tared goat tracks.

When you are told by a police officer that "we won't bother to find your car or follow it up, just contact your insurer" and "What type of car was it? A VL Turbo, well serve you right for driving one of those around Penrith" you seem to wonder what the hell your taxes are paying for.

Obviously you have been living with your head in the sand to not notice the poor state of things here, I can't speak for the states outside of NSW but here the government seems more content with giving themselves pay rises rather than fis the things that the public complain so much about.
Click to expand...

Were you at a private or public hospital? Why would health insurance make any difference if you're at a public hospital? The hospital system could do with more funding but it doesn't 'stink' - certainly it is far better than what you have in the US, where huge numbers of people are completely without health insurance. The roads I travel on are in perfect condition, where do you live? So you got an asshole police officer, too bad, but that doesn't mean the entire police force is 'crap'. And yes, it does serve you right for driving a VL turbo in Penrith, or anywhere else for that matter, you deserve to have lots of bad things happen to you for driving such an absurd car.
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Doesn't sound certainly better to me. It sounds pretty horrible to wait 5 hours in an emergency room.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia. At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
Click to expand...

WTF? Crap hospital system? Any person in this country can receive top notch treatment at hospital, with no out of pocket costs. 5 hrs is not a long wait in an emergency room, compare that with waiting times in hospitals in other countries. Where are you driving, to be getting damage to your suspension? Is it realistic to dismiss our police force as "crap" because they are unable to retrieve a stolen item? Double the amount of money you spend on policing, and they'd still have problems retrieving stolen items. You seem to have a glass half empty perspective.
Click to expand...

A 5hr wait when you have private health insurance is ridiculous, especially when you are the only one in the emergancy room, which had to be opened at 9pm, because it had been closed due to budget cuts.
I have a sister and numerous friends who work in the NSW hospital system and they say it stinks, budget cuts have lead to reduced staff numbers which has adversly affected the quality of our health care.

Why is it in Victora, most roads are less than 20yrs old, and yet in NSW with the exception of the Hume Highway most roads are pre 1960's roads and are nothing more than tared goat tracks.

When you are told by a police officer that "we won't bother to find your car or follow it up, just contact your insurer" and "What type of car was it? A VL Turbo, well serve you right for driving one of those around Penrith" you seem to wonder what the hell your taxes are paying for.

Obviously you have been living with your head in the sand to not notice the poor state of things here, I can't speak for the states outside of NSW but here the government seems more content with giving themselves pay rises rather than fis the things that the public complain so much about.
Click to expand...

Were you at a private or public hospital? Why would health insurance make any difference if you're at a public hospital? The hospital system could do with more funding but it doesn't 'stink' - certainly it is far better than what you have in the US, where huge numbers of people are completely without health insurance. The roads I travel on are in perfect condition, where do you live? So you got an asshole police officer, too bad, but that doesn't mean the entire police force is 'crap'. And yes, it does serve you right for driving a VL turbo in Penrith, or anywhere else for that matter, you deserve to have lots of bad things happen to you for driving such an absurd car.
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Why are you talking about the US in your nationalistic rage? He's from Australia.
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I wasn't aware that I was in a rage. Yes, I know he is in Australia. What is your point?
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certainly it is far better than what you have in the US
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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Stumps
we have a crap hospital system, crap roads, crap police force, I was wondering what they did with my tax money and everybody else who works for a living in Australia. At least the money will be spent on a good cause, I can live with waiting more than 5 hrs in an emergancy room after a car accident, or having to do constant repairs on my cars suspension, or putting up with a police force that can't find the mongrels who stole my last ride.
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WTF? Crap hospital system? Any person in this country can receive top notch treatment at hospital, with no out of pocket costs. 5 hrs is not a long wait in an emergency room, compare that with waiting times in hospitals in other countries. Where are you driving, to be getting damage to your suspension? Is it realistic to dismiss our police force as "crap" because they are unable to retrieve a stolen item? Double the amount of money you spend on policing, and they'd still have problems retrieving stolen items. You seem to have a glass half empty perspective.
Click to expand...

A 5hr wait when you have private health insurance is ridiculous, especially when you are the only one in the emergancy room, which had to be opened at 9pm, because it had been closed due to budget cuts.
I have a sister and numerous friends who work in the NSW hospital system and they say it stinks, budget cuts have lead to reduced staff numbers which has adversly affected the quality of our health care.

Why is it in Victora, most roads are less than 20yrs old, and yet in NSW with the exception of the Hume Highway most roads are pre 1960's roads and are nothing more than tared goat tracks.

When you are told by a police officer that "we won't bother to find your car or follow it up, just contact your insurer" and "What type of car was it? A VL Turbo, well serve you right for driving one of those around Penrith" you seem to wonder what the hell your taxes are paying for.

Obviously you have been living with your head in the sand to not notice the poor state of things here, I can't speak for the states outside of NSW but here the government seems more content with giving themselves pay rises rather than fis the things that the public complain so much about.
Click to expand...

Were you at a private or public hospital? Why would health insurance make any difference if you're at a public hospital? The hospital system could do with more funding but it doesn't 'stink' - certainly it is far better than what you have in the US, where huge numbers of people are completely without health insurance. The roads I travel on are in perfect condition, where do you live? So you got an asshole police officer, too bad, but that doesn't mean the entire police force is 'crap'. And yes, it does serve you right for driving a VL turbo in Penrith, or anywhere else for that matter, you deserve to have lots of bad things happen to you for driving such an absurd car.
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Doesn't sound certainly better to me. It sounds pretty horrible to wait 5 hours in an emergency room.
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Because it costs nothing to attend an emergency room here, people will rock up with minor ailments like the flu. If you go to the ER with a stubbed toe (when you should really be attending a general practitioner), then you might have to wait. If you have acute life-threatening injury, then you will get immediate treatment. How is the US any different? Aimster posted in OT a few days ago about a recent ER experience, he fell in shower, sustained a minor cut on his head, and waited hours in an ER for treatment. One difference of course is that he will be presented with a large bill. That doesn't happen here. 😀

 
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