Final report on Flint water crisis: The state is responsible

[HomerJS]

The Governor's own report indicts his own administration. Snyder poisons the citizens of Flint while he and other Republicans tried to blame the EPA. I still want to know why state resources were used to hire Snyder a PR firm.

Primary responsibility for the Flint water crisis lies with the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality, according to the final report of a governor-appointed task force examining the city's water woes

The 62-page report chides the DEQ's handling of the crisis, and knocks the ongoing effort of state officials to place blame for the crisis at multiple levels of government

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2016/03/state_responsible_for_flint_wa.html

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Lets be fair there was a huge failure at the EPA too. Both State Gov & EPAs clearly measured response is inexcusable.
For note
Its the States job to ensure the water is clean.

 

[Genx87]

Whew I was worried the EPA under a Democrat president may have some blame. So glad we were able to avoid that and pile this at the feet of Republicans. Because lets be honest and say that is the most important matter in this poisoning of a water supply. Which political party is the winner and which is the loser!

 

[swamplizard]

Whew I was worried the EPA under a Democrat president may have some blame. So glad we were able to avoid that and pile this at the feet of Republicans. Because lets be honest and say that is the most important matter in this poisoning of a water supply. Which political party is the winner and which is the loser!

The people of flint are the losers. No one is the winner.

 

[Genx87]

The people of flint are the losers. No one is the winner.

I would had never guessed this by the amount of political grandstanding over this fuckup in govt.

 

[shortylickens]

I thought the whole point of having an EPA was they would tear into government officials when other agencies were too scared.

What happened?

 

[swamplizard]

I would had never guessed this by the amount of political grandstanding over this fuckup in govt.

It's nothing about politics, but about the human lives that have been devastated by this horrific catastrophe.

 

[hal2kilo]

I find the Repubs side of this argument sooo disingenuous. Get it. They are pissed and accusing the EPA of doing exactly what they want them to do, which is exactly nothing.

 

[swamplizard]

If we were to ask the people of Flint, I would dare say that this is a crisis that is above politics.

 

[Genx87]

If we were to ask the people of Flint, I would dare say that this is a crisis that is above politics.

Im sure they would. Everybody outside Flint, all politics.

 

[swamplizard]

Im sure they would. Everybody outside Flint, all politics.

Then let us treat this as if we were residents of Flint.

 

[Jaskalas]

Snyder said that Detroit, after being informed of the Flint council vote, sent a "letter of termination" of water service. Detroit sent a letter giving Flint one year on its existing contract, but that didn't mean Flint couldn't get water from Detroit after that date. In fact, there was a flurry of negotiations between Detroit and Flint to sign a new contract that would carry Flint through until it could connect to the under-construction pipeline. That new contract was going to cost Flint more money.

What was the additional price Detroit placed on clean water?

 

[HomerJS]

At its core about sacrificing the people of Flint to save money.

When will there be accountability??

 

[OverVolt]

The state could have intervened between the municipality problems between Flint and Detroit for sure.

The clean water was available per se, its just that Detroit was being dumb.

 

[dank69]

I find the Repubs side of this argument sooo disingenuous. Get it. They are pissed and accusing the EPA of doing exactly what they want them to do, which is exactly nothing.

Hell, the EPA is two of the five government departments that Cruz wants to eliminate entirely.

 

[swamplizard]

Hell, the EPA is two of the five government departments that Cruz wants to eliminate entirely.

Cruz is a dufus, just as his supporters.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

force all the politicians in MI and their children drink the water from Flint, see how fast it's rectified. If it's good enough for the residents and their children it's good enough for those fucktards in office.

 

[Jhhnn]

I find the Repubs side of this argument sooo disingenuous. Get it. They are pissed and accusing the EPA of doing exactly what they want them to do, which is exactly nothing.

Their argument is bullshit anyway. It's not the EPA's job to call out State govts in the Media-

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...-stayed-silent-flints-tainted-water/78719620/

It's also part of Repub policy that cheaper is better when it comes to the plebes.

http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/columnists/ph-cc-zirpoli-032316-20160323-column.html

Few people understand that municipal water, at its best, is a highly processed product. I'm lucky to have some of the best-

http://www.denverwater.org/

 

[Vdubchaos]

Lets be fair there was a huge failure at the EPA too. Both State Gov & EPAs clearly measured response is inexcusable.
For note
Its the States job to ensure the water is clean.

And NO state is capable of EVER doing that. The have ALWAYS been playing catch up.....all throughout history.

Heck Chlorine, the vary thing that currently saves our asses and prevent MILLIONS of deaths originated by some guy POISING the city water as an experiment!

If you are really curious on the subject (as you should be) do yourself a favor and check out Frontline Poised Water
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/poisonedwaters/

 

[Vdubchaos]

force all the politicians in MI and their children drink the water from Flint, see how fast it's rectified. If it's good enough for the residents and their children it's good enough for those fucktards in office.

I agree, although I'm not sure if innocent family members should be punished, it's the only way to get a proper result.

There has to be consequences for those that did the crime. Without consequences, NOTHING ever changes.

 

[hal2kilo]

Their argument is bullshit anyway. It's not the EPA's job to call out State govts in the Media-

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...-stayed-silent-flints-tainted-water/78719620/

It's also part of Repub policy that cheaper is better when it comes to the plebes.

http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/columnists/ph-cc-zirpoli-032316-20160323-column.html

Few people understand that municipal water, at its best, is a highly processed product. I'm lucky to have some of the best-

http://www.denverwater.org/

Also, wasn't Flint one of those out of control financially towns that the Republican state house took control of?

 

[ivwshane]

Also, wasn't Flint one of those out of control financially towns that the Republican state house took control of?

Yes and the report sites that the people the governor appointed are directly responsible for many of the bad decisions that were made. It is precisely those appointments by the governor and the overall republican strategy of cutting costs above all else that this matter has become partisan.

Hopefully things will be fixed and families will receive the support they need now and in the future when the negative health affects show themselves.

 

[Jhhnn]

Also, wasn't Flint one of those out of control financially towns that the Republican state house took control of?

Correct. That wasn't until absolutely necessary, until after Flint exhausted all their resources attempting to maintain equilibrium.

It's those job creatin' Republicans stringing everybody along until Chop! somebody not them takes the axe, one way or another. Now that it's reaching the Repub base those folks are looking for somebody to save them from where their adopted belief system has put them. They don't understand that last part just yet so we have Trumpism as a way of lashing out in Denial. They're having trouble reasoning their way out of beliefs they didn't reason their way into.

 

[OverVolt]

Correct. That wasn't until absolutely necessary, until after Flint exhausted all their resources attempting to maintain equilibrium.

It's those job creatin' Republicans stringing everybody along until Chop! somebody not them takes the axe, one way or another. Now that it's reaching the Repub base those folks are looking for somebody to save them from where their adopted belief system has put them. They don't understand that last part just yet so we have Trumpism as a way of lashing out in Denial. They're having trouble reasoning their way out of beliefs they didn't reason their way into.

Lmfao what!?

Some people just can't get a grasp of the economy just like some people can't code and some people can't operate heavy machinery or learn another language.

 

[Atreus21]

so did this panel ever determine who actually decided to use the Flint river?