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Final Episode of Angel airs tonight!!! :(

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Originally posted by: sandmanwake
There are rumors of an Angel movie which would help wrap up the series. Overall, though, I thought this was a better series finale than Buffy. Plus Amy Acker looks good all blue, in leather, and killing--gives me a sensation I hadn't felt while watching tv since that episode of Buffy where Willow was a vampire and breaking that other vampire's finger all the while asking who he worked for, and she kept twisting until he said he worked for her. Disappointing she stopped so soon.
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you know I think they always float that rumor of the a TV movie so hardcore fans have hope of one more episode and stop putting up a fuss over the shows cancelation. That said, Man what a ending, I was hoping they'd give wesley some sort of happy ending. For the whole series that guy just could not catch a break. I guess I'm one of the few who actually like the ending.
 
The ending was ok... I think Wesley, Lindsay, and Lorne were all resolved well. I guess the show came full circle with Wesley rather than Angel. I didn't expect too much since it was so rushed... not bad considering that.

I'm going to miss all the hot chicks on the show not to mention the writing on the show was pretty friggin awesome at times. I thought Amy Acker was hot way back the first time she was introduced.

A ton of people watch Smallville on AT and I think that show is just as "girly" as Angel and Buffy... I'm waiting for WB to kill that show too. It seems good ratings don't matter to WB execs.
 
The ending they did was what Whedon wanted, not what the WB wanted. I think that the show always stood for fighting against all odds even if you can never win. It was always a tragic hero show. A good ending would have been crappy. I just hate how he just signed away the Shanshu when that was the entire point...... Another way to look at this is that the senior partners represent the WB and that even if we cant win(angel cancellation) to always keep fighting for what we beleve in and show them that they cant put down our will to fight no matter the odds.
 
One of the few shows I got absolutely hooked on, unfortunately just started watching this year, but I've seen most of the episodes now through reruns on tnt (they finished season 4 and just started on season 1 again). I was a little dissapointed at the very ending, but the rest of the final episode was pretty good.
 
After I found out they canceled that show about 3 month ago I stopped watching it. I watch charmed now 😉

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Originally posted by: Sysadmin
After I found out they canceled that show about 3 month ago I stopped watching it. I watch charmed now 😉
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I can't believe that thing is still on the air while stuff like Angel is canned.

What I'd like to know is how many people at the top have anything other than a business background. In short, how many of them actually worked out in the industry, not just the offices. Because it seems like the whole thing is deteriorating into a pure money grab, regardless of quality and now apparently ratings. (Like so many other industries.)
 
well, TV's just like any other business. It IS all about the money.

Anyway, I've got mixed feelings about that ending. Eventually they would've fallen. Not a bad way to go, I guess.
 
Wife and I started watching Angel when they put it on after Smallville. We didn't know anything about the show except it was some spinoff from Buffy about a Vampire that fought for good.

After a couple of episodes we started liking it...Then they aired the 'Smile Time' episode (The one where Angel turns into a puppet) and from there we got ABSOLUTELY HOOKED (that episode is HILARIOUS!) and caught up with the old episodes (from watching reruns on TNT and renting the DVDs).

From watching the shows and seeing the progression and growth of the characters through the seasons, by far my favorite character is Wesley (Wyndham-Price, of course 🙂 ). He went through the biggest transformation; from being a fumbling geek in the early seasons and being awkward and uncoordinated, then in the later seasons he's sleeping with the enemy (that being Lila. I'll remember FOREVER the episode where she gets out of bed after they've had a 'romp' and she says "Don't think of me too much when I'm gone" and he says "I didn't think of you at all when you were here" Man! that was BADASS.) and stealing Angels son and being alienated from the group, and finally he's back in the fold and gains the love of Fred who he's loved all along...Until she's taken over by Illyria.

The final episode last night, I agree, felt totally rushed. Considering the circumstances of the cancellation though, I think they did an okay job of it...But I have to admit that I was actually choking back tears on wesley's death scene.

I, for one, am very sorry to see Angel end.
 
Originally posted by: flashbacck

Anyway, I've got mixed feelings about that ending. Eventually they would've fallen. Not a bad way to go, I guess.
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Not necessarily . . .

evidently the Apocalypse is triggered . . .

and you know Who gets involved (according to other prophecy). . . 😉

maybe the "Left Behind" people can hook up with "Angel" for "The Movie". 😛

:roll:
 
Originally posted by: flashbacck
well, TV's just like any other business. It IS all about the money.
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Well, there's a difference between making a quality product and a profit necessary to survive, and making a bare bones product in order to boost profits. What I was trying to get at was networks going for the lowest common denominator at a low price instead of trying to create something more complex at a higher price. I have no objections to networks canceling shows that aren't profitable and don't have the ratings -- that's only natural -- it's when shows that are well rated but are not "cost effective" because they don't have a high profit margin are canned solely based on the latter.
 
Sorry to not see Sarah Michelle Gellar reprise her role as Buffy. I'd think for the last ep, she would make it, but I guess she definately doesn't want to be typcasted.......Scooby 3? lol.....
 
Originally posted by: The_Wildcard
Sorry to not see Sarah Michelle Gellar reprise her role as Buffy. I'd think for the last ep, she would make it, but I guess she definately doesn't want to be typcasted.......Scooby 3? lol.....
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Problem with Gellar was that they wanted her to reprise the role, but she had a death in the family during the time in which
they wanted to bring her back. And by the time that situation had cleared up, Whedon decided it would be better to leave
her out of the finale because they wanted the finale to be about Angel and the characters from that series than
about Gellar. Which I understand.
 
Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Originally posted by: flashbacck
well, TV's just like any other business. It IS all about the money.
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Well, there's a difference between making a quality product and a profit necessary to survive, and making a bare bones product in order to boost profits. What I was trying to get at was networks going for the lowest common denominator at a low price instead of trying to create something more complex at a higher price. I have no objections to networks canceling shows that aren't profitable and don't have the ratings -- that's only natural -- it's when shows that are well rated but are not "cost effective" because they don't have a high profit margin are canned solely based on the latter.
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What I find amusing is that lately, networks which are always concerned with money, seem to be neglecting one of the big
money winfalls of a successful series, which is syndication. Think of the amount of money syndicated shows make
the networks. Money for a show thats not being made anymore. I know NBC makes alot of money off Seinfeld still. The
more episodes the more money to make. Now why the WB cancelled a show that still had alot of potentional to make them
money is anyones guess, but I imagine that there must have been and be serious friction between WB executives and
Whedon.
 
I just watched my tivo'd version of the last episode... I thought it was a good episode, but it should have gotten two hours. It totally felt rushed. I decided that I really liked Eleria (sp?) after all, even though she took over Fred. I'll miss the show! Now smallville is the only show left to watch on WB.
 
i enjoyed the show (originally for charisma carpenter and later because it's actually pretty good) and hated to see if tossed off the air after big ratings improvements and being crictially acclaimed. i guess they have other priorities (like their new sketch comedy shows that no one will watch and their fake american idol). here's hoping they get a chance to tie up loose ends with tv movies or something:beer:
 
I was pretty disappointed overall i guess.

Angel was one of the few good shows left out there, so it's really too sad they canned it.
 
Originally posted by: Ynog
What I find amusing is that lately, networks which are always concerned with money, seem to be neglecting one of the big money winfalls of a successful series, which is syndication. Think of the amount of money syndicated shows make the networks. Money for a show thats not being made anymore. I know NBC makes alot of money off Seinfeld still. The more episodes the more money to make. Now why the WB cancelled a show that still had alot of potentional to make them money is anyones guess, but I imagine that there must have been and be serious friction between WB executives and
Whedon.
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DVD sales seem to be making up a lot of what Syndication used to be about. How many new series (24, Alias, The Shield, Dead Zone, Monk, Nip/Tuck, etc) are not syndicated but sent direct to DVD? Very odd move IMO. It's like they're all rushing for the Next Big Thing or whatever, so they keep on trying new series, regardless of how crappy they might turn out to be.

Oh, and as to the speculation as to friction... seem that that's not true. WB was strongly backing Whedon as little as a few months ago! Even their CEO said it was preforming well and was loved inside the company. What changed is that John Wells, the man behind West Wing, ER and Third Watch came to WB and proposed ressurecting a 1960s vampire centered soap opera called Dark Shadows. Well, the suits practically fell over each other in their attempts to kiss up to him. One of his "accommodations" for working on that project seemed to be that it would be the only vamp centred drama on the network. The execs thus served up Josh's and Angel's heads on a plate, blaming money problems as has been said :| Or so goes the rumour, courtesy of the TV Guide for this week. If it's true, that just goes to show how shallow the industry really is. Somehow I'm betting Shadows will quite literally suck, despite who's behind it.
 
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Didn't somebody do a Dark Shadows remake in the 80s or 90s? I seem to remember watching it and it didn't last very long.
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Looks that way. NBC resurrected the franchise for a short-lived primetime revival in '91..And according to that article, they're also dumping their money into a remake of "Lost in Space". Hey, why bother with new, original stuff when we can just pilfer the trash, right? Fvckers. :disgust:
 
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