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film SLR camera slow dying?

Rottie

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Is everyone still using film SLR camera these day? I know digital SLR are popular over film for many reasons....for me it is easier for me to print photo and save my money than walk to the store for 24 hour film processing and allows me to learn more digital art with image manipuation software like Adobe Photoshop. So I am guessing film SLR cameras are on life support for long time right?
 
I have a Nikon F2AS system with lenses that has sat in a case on a shelf for over 20 years now. 🙂
 
If my dad were still alive I would have forced him to switch over years ago. If he didnt wanna leave behind his lenses I'd get an adapter.

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Sorry, I forgot to give reasons. The best one I can think of is for either the professional or the amateur, over the long term it will save tons of money. You instantly know if a shot was good or bad and whether you need to take another one. You dont need to worry about keeping extra boxes of film in case you go on a shooting spree. Even with a long life battery and using RAW's its unlikely you will overload a 16GB card. If you do, they are cheap and tiny, take another one.
You never have to process any shot you dont like. You dont need a dark room any more. You dont need an expensive padded envelope and FedEx priority overnight. Dont need to buy any more big ass albums.
If you choose to spend extra money thats your business.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/appleipad2/
But you dont HAVE to. Chances are good the computer you already own is more than up to the task of viewing, manipulating and cataloging all the photos you will ever take. You dont need to take a smartphone outside, or a tablet, or laptop. You damn sure dont need a supercomputer at home.
 
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I still shoot film, but I've been doing it since the early 80's and it's habit.

Film is mostly dead (princess bride reference). Nobody except some old farts, a few artists, and those who shoot formats that are not practical for digital (yet) still shoot film.

I love Velvia 50 and the results I get with the F4 and the AE-1. I sometimes shoot an old Trip 35 with cheap 100 film for "retro" snapshots for select event customers. When I can get the same results with digital, I'll leave all film in the heap with my old 110 Instamatic and super 8mm camera and projector.

JR
 
film and polaroid are not the same thing 🙂.

Polaroid is not gone... Fuji revived in a trendy new shape called the "Checki" or instax!
 
I still shoot film, but I've been doing it since the early 80's and it's habit.

Film is mostly dead (princess bride reference). Nobody except some old farts, a few artists, and those who shoot formats that are not practical for digital (yet) still shoot film.

I love Velvia 50 and the results I get with the F4 and the AE-1. I sometimes shoot an old Trip 35 with cheap 100 film for "retro" snapshots for select event customers. When I can get the same results with digital, I'll leave all film in the heap with my old 110 Instamatic and super 8mm camera and projector.

JR
Yeah I dont think theres a digital sensor that captures quite as much detail as a 70mm camera and thats what most of Hollywood still uses, I think.
We only just recently got a sensor thats as good as 35mm film.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond3x/
24.5 megapixels AND the image quality to actually make it useful.
We'd need a 100mp camera on a much larger sensor to equal that super Panavision stuff.
 
film and polaroid are not the same thing 🙂.

Polaroid is not gone... Fuji revived in a trendy new shape called the "Checki" or instax!

I meant to say Polaroid film camera....are they still making new Polaroid film camera??
 
large format film is still going strong. you can shot a TON of film for the cost of a MF or LF digital back. as other said still used for art, portraits, landscapes and a few other things

also unless i missed it printers still cant reproduce the look and feel of a correctly printed and toned B&W silver gelatin print
 
large format film is still going strong. you can shot a TON of film for the cost of a MF or LF digital back. as other said still used for art, portraits, landscapes and a few other things

also unless i missed it printers still cant reproduce the look and feel of a correctly printed and toned B&W silver gelatin print

Truth!
 
Large format film still has a place in landscape photography. But SLR 35mm film is pretty much dead.
 
It's a shame because film captures a lot more data. Heck, a digital pixel isn't even a pixel. It's a R, G, or B pixel whose color has been guessed based on the surrounding R, G, and B pixels.
 

This article is © 1999 by Brad Templeton. 🙂

Here is one from 2000, he he

They compare the Canon 3.11mp D30 to Provia 100F.

that nikon still isn't up to film's standards...

In terms of resolution, I'd say we're close if not pass 35mm film.

From wikipedia:

"A 36 mm x 24 mm frame of ISO 100-speed film has first been estimated to contain the equivalent of 20 million pixels, estimation which has been later reduced to between 4 and 16 million pixel depending on the type of film used"

But as already mentioned, in terms of color and tonal graduation, film is unmatched.
 
But as already mentioned, in terms of color and tonal graduation, film is unmatched.

I love it how you film guys keep re-writing photographic history and moving the standards target every time digital improves. This only proves how lousy film was to begin with.

I've worked commercially with every format invented, and back before dSLRs became common 35mm was mocked as an amatuer format and most pros wouldn't touch it. Even for my own shooting I wouldn't mess with anything smaller than 6x7. So, lets move forward a decade and 35mm is better? I don't think so. The only working pros I know working with film are shooting 4x5 or bigger. Nobody shoots 35mm except crack-head photo 101 students who think grainy / muddy 35mm prints make them an artist.

One thing I give classic film SLRs credit for is ergonomics. My old Nikon F3 I used in my press days spanks my Canon 60D in every form, especially the viewfinder. Problem is, 35mm film still sucks and always will except for speed and small print. To get real quality I need my RB67 or 4x5 view camera, and those are no match for modern dSLRs in terms of speed and ease of use.

The quality issue has been beat to death and put to rest. The only people who think 35mm film delivers a better image than dSLRs don't know how to use a digital camera and need the photo crew at Walmart to make color adjustments for them. If 35mm film is so much better than digital, please grow some stones and show me these images or please shut up.

Also, film *does not* out resolve digital. Color film requires bleaching, and then the additional process of color couplers requiring industrial dye to be added. This produces a random, noisy, unpredictable image that typically looks better if you print it with the enlarger slightly out of focus. If you've ever used a drum scanner on film you learn how much the medium sucks and why nobody wants to scan creater than 2000dpi. While bayer sensors do have inherent problems, they are a billion times more linear than the dye coupled nonsense required to create an image on film. Film can't even create the same image twice - digital can.

Yeah I dont think theres a digital sensor that captures quite as much detail as a 70mm camera and thats what most of Hollywood still uses, I think.

Wrong. Most of hollywood, except for IMAX, is using digital. Coupled with DLP projectors the quality improvement is astounding. Back in the day I could watch a feature length film and not only count the number of emulsion changes with the interpositive I could tell you how much the film gate was out of alignment. Now with digital > digital I see nothing but detail.
 
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WELL SAID!

Compare to cars.

Fuel Injection vs Carbs. Both are around. Fans of each. Different fans. Some say 1 is better than the other. Fanboys. Blah blah blah. But, what do you see on modern day cars? Also, there is still a place for carbs, but they aren't dead. So no, I don't see film totally dying, but it hasn't been replaced with an inferior tech either.
 
First of all, 35mm always did better than the "experts" thought it did. In the news biz 35mm was used and had good results.

Second, it's really more about look than technical resolution. I really don't know how many megapixels 35mm film would have and it seems a nonsensical question. Film, done right, looks good because it doesn't clip like digital does. Simple matter of the physics of the media. It's really very similar to why music aficionados still like LP's. They can tell that digital music is "missing" bits of the music. Film, similarly, handles washouts more gracefully than digital.

All that being said, almost everyone will get better results with digital than film. This is due to skill, or the lack of it, rather than the media.

I shoot film for the look. I cannot duplicate it with digital. Some technicians can come close, but it's not the same.

JR
 
WELL SAID!

Compare to cars.

Fuel Injection vs Carbs. Both are around. Fans of each. Different fans. Some say 1 is better than the other. Fanboys. Blah blah blah. But, what do you see on modern day cars? Also, there is still a place for carbs, but they aren't dead. So no, I don't see film totally dying, but it hasn't been replaced with an inferior tech either.

It's not a bad analogy, just a few decades off. It's more like carb vs fuel inj in the 80's.

JR
 
I'd be willing to bet line up amateur photographers, arm half with the likes of modern SLRs and the other with dSLR's...that the digital crowd will have far more consistant and far more photographic photos.

That said for many full auto is all they need.
 
dude... Somebody completely disregarded one of my posts earlier! I said Sigma, has their SD-1 which uses a Foveon sensor! This sensor captures ALL RGB per pixel! no interpolation like tradition DSLR bayer sensors! (R,G,G,B)
 
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