FIFA officials arrested *Update 2* Chuck Blazer admits taking bribes

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mikeymikec

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Shouldn't the US DOJ be fighting corruption, I don't know, in the US? I know our SCOTUS thinks money is speech and doesn't corrupt, but still.

I was listening to BBC Radio 4 the other day and apparently there's a US law that if fraud is committed using US dollars, the US class it as a crime in their jurisdiction.
 

smackababy

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I was listening to BBC Radio 4 the other day and apparently there's a US law that if fraud is committed using US dollars, the US class it as a crime in their jurisdiction.

The US also has other whack ass laws like you can't travel to a country for the purpose of committing certain crimes, regardless of their legality in said country. I can't go to Somalia for the purpose of dueling someone... Fuck that noise!
 

sunzt

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The corruption involved US banks, other US companies, and was on US soil. Why shouldn't it be within the DOJ's purview?
 
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Genx87

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Putin is opening his mouth. Should be fun to see how many of his shell corporations bribed FIFA officials.
 

Blackjack200

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Ugh, I'm an idiot. This is why the DOJ did this. It's yet another way to poke Putin with the WC in Russia in 2018.
 

mikeymikec

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The US also has other whack ass laws like you can't travel to a country for the purpose of committing certain crimes, regardless of their legality in said country. I can't go to Somalia for the purpose of dueling someone... Fuck that noise!

I can think of plausible reasons why a country would want to have a say if their currency is being used fraudulently, it is technically their property after all; if it wasn't then counterfeiting currency could hardly be considered to be a crime. Furthermore, if fraud is being committed on an international scale and entirely electronically, the question of jurisdiction gets rather messy.
 

hal2kilo

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Ugh, I'm an idiot. This is why the DOJ did this. It's yet another way to poke Putin with the WC in Russia in 2018.

I really don't think that was the reason, but pissing off Putin in the process is a 2fer.
 
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Blackjack200

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I really don't think that was the reason, but pissing off Putin in the process is a 2fer.

No, it's the only reason. Think about it: US Russian tensions are as bad as they've been since Cuban missile crisis. That's where this is coming from. No other reason for the DOJ to give two shits about FIFA. They want to expose bribes to embarass the Russians.
 

Genx87

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No, it's the only reason. Think about it: US Russian tensions are as bad as they've been since Cuban missile crisis. That's where this is coming from. No other reason for the DOJ to give two shits about FIFA. They want to expose bribes to embarass the Russians.

Is this sarcasm?
 

Jodell88

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South Africa did pay $10m (£6.5m) to a football body led by Jack Warner, a figure at the centre of Fifa corruption allegations, local media say.

Danny Jordaan, head of South Africa's FA, is quoted as confirming that the amount was deducted from a Fifa payment to the country in 2008.

A subsequent letter requested that money to be sent, instead, to the Caribbean Football Union, reports say.

South African officials deny it was a bribe to secure the 2010 World Cup.

But US prosecutors insist South Africa made an illegal payment after the government promised $10m to Mr Warner - then a Fifa vice-president - in exchange for the "Rainbow Nation" becoming the first African country to host the World Cup.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-32952078
 

OutHouse

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lol this is comic gold.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/01/w...rner-cites-onion-article-in-defense.html?_r=0

Jack Warner, a former vice president of world soccer’s governing body, FIFA, defended himself against corruption charges on Sunday by citing an article from The Onion, apparently unaware that it was satire.

Mr. Warner, 72, who was arrested last week in connection with a wide-ranging criminal investigation by the United States Justice Department, held up the faux news report, calling it evidence of an American conspiracy, in a video statement that was uploaded to the web and then removed later in the day.
 

K1052

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And Blatter steps down only 4 days into his term...

Well it doesn't look like he's going anywhere at least until December. Unless he also gets an all expenses paid vacation to Club Fed before that...
 

StinkyPinky

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This is a coup for the US, make no mistake. This will bring a lot of goodwill.

And piss off Russia in the process.

Win/win
 

Brian Stirling

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This is a coup for the US, make no mistake. This will bring a lot of goodwill.

And piss off Russia in the process.

Win/win


Let's see ... the world insults Russia over the winter Olympics and Putin responds by invading the Ukraine. What will he do if he's made fun of over the World Cup?


Brian
 

werepossum

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Wait I'm not a soccer fan or world cup follower but let me understand. Six people embezzled or stole about 150 million over 20(?) years were arrested while some international banks rigged the global interest rates to make far more and just paid a fine?
Gotta remember that old saying:

Crime doesn't pay - at the retail level.
 

PokerGuy

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I'm sure Blatter didn't just have some bright new insight or startling realization. I'm guessing he's stepping down because officials (US, Swiss, other?) have indicated he's under investigation. He knows the gig is up and doesn't want to end up in prison -- and figures by stepping down he might lower the heat level a bit (especially considering he's almost 80).

They've gone after FIFA execs and potentially Blatter. Blatter is hoping if he's no longer the head of FIFA, there's going to be much less interest in going after him criminally.
 

Smoblikat

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I dont understand why this is relevant to any government body. Its just a sports game, why is the US geting involved? Did we give them money to use for somthing and they didnt use it in the way we intended?
 

feralkid

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I dont understand why this is relevant to any government body. Its just a sports game, why is the US geting involved? Did we give them money to use for somthing and they didnt use it in the way we intended?

Have you read any of the articles about this?