Fidgeting Separates Fat From Fit Couch Potato [POLL]

Amused

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Now I know why I was always so skinny. I could never sit still. I was always shifting around or wiggling.

Alas, my metabolism caught up with it in my 30s. Now I can gain weight if I don't work out.

Fidgeting Separates Fat From Fit Couch Potato

Obese Couch Potatoes Sit Longer Than Thinner Counterparts

By Jennifer Warner
WebMD Medical News Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MD
on Thursday, January 27, 2005


Jan. 27, 2005 -- All couch potatoes may not be created equal, according to a new study that shows the need to sit or fidget may be biological.

Researchers tracked the posture and body position of 10 obese and 10 lean self-proclaimed "couch potatoes" for 10 days. They found that, on average, lean couch potatoes stood up and moved around about two hours longer than the obese ones.

That extra fidgeting time amounts to an additional 350 calories burned per day among the lean couch potatoes.

Researchers call those extra calories burned without exercise "nonexercise activity thermogenesis," or NEAT. The results indicate NEAT may be more important than formal exercise in determining who is lean and who is obese.

"Our patients have told us for years that they have low metabolism, and as caregivers, we have never quite understood what that means -- until today," says researcher James Levine, MD, an endocrinologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., in a news release.

"The answer is they have low NEAT, which means they have a biological need to sit more, says Levine. "A person can expend calories either by going to the gym, or through everyday activities. Our study shows that the calories that people burn in their everyday activities -- their NEAT -- are far, far more important in obesity than we previously imagined."

Fidgeting May Fight Fat

In the first part of the study, which appears in the Jan. 28 issue of Science, researchers used specially designed underwear designed to track even the smallest movement to measure activity and fidgeting levels among a group of 20 couch potatoes for 10 days.

Half of the participants were lean and half were considered mildly obese.

The results showed that obese participants were seated for 164 minutes longer per day than the lean participants, which meant they burned about 350 fewer calories per day. Sleeping times were almost identical between the two groups.

In the second phase of the study, researchers put the obese couch potatoes on a diet and reduced their calorie intake by 1,000 calories per day and overfed the lean couch potatoes by the same amount.

The obese group lost weight, but researchers found that after their weight loss they still spent the same amount of time sitting. The same principle held true for the lean group after they gained weight; they still stood, walked around, and fidgeted more than the obese group.

Researchers say those findings suggest that obese people may be NEAT-deficient.

"It most likely reflects a brain chemical difference because our study shows that even when obese people lose weight they remain seated the same number of minutes per day," says Levine. "They don't stand or walk more. And conversely, when lean people artificially gain weight, they don't sit more. So the NEAT appears to be fixed."

In a related perspective published in the same issue, Eric Ravussin of the Pennington Biomedical Researcher Center in Baton Rouge, La., says this study shows that a small, but sustained change in the activities of daily living can profoundly affect energy balance.

"Unfortunately, if genes do determine the true 'couch potato,' then encouraging an exchange of time spent standing, as suggested, is unlikely to help control body weight," writes Ravussin. "Instead, one could progressively change the environment to discourage sitting behaviors."

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/99/105421.htm
 

PlatinumGold

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my wife always gets on me because i'm a fidgeter. always have been and my oldest son is a fidgeter also. he is exactly like me.

unfortunately, despite my fidgeting, i am fat 5'10" 220 lbs.

i wonder tho, would i be fatter if i didn't fidget?
 

tec699

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I fidgit a lot and my eating habits are horendous! I can eat cupcakes, ice cream, candy, cheese steakes, McDonalds food all day and will not gain any weight. I guess it's genetic as well as no one in my family is over weight.
 

vi edit

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What I want to know is....how many calories a day does a dog burn wagging it's tail non stop.

:p
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: WhiteWonder
people on meth fidget, and they are always skinny.

Well, they also don't eat and their metabolism is dangerously raised by the drug.

They don't much count. :p
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
What I want to know is....how many calories a day does a dog burn wagging it's tail non stop.

:p

Do dogs who wag a lot gain less weight than dogs who don't?

Sounds like we need billions in government money to do a study.

You apply for the funds, and I'll go round up some muts at the pound, OK?
 

Phoenix86

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My leg fidgets , and I'm weigh less than I probably should for my diet and lack of excersize. I'm about to turn 29, so I know I'll hit a wall soon. :(
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
my wife always gets on me because i'm a fidgeter. always have been and my oldest son is a fidgeter also. he is exactly like me.

unfortunately, despite my fidgeting, i am fat 5'10" 220 lbs.

i wonder tho, would i be fatter if i didn't fidget?

Yeah, but how old are you and when did the weight come on?
 

Vic

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Wow... I have always fidgeted and have always been thin (despite the fact that I eat more than a horse). I guess now I know. And to think, when I was a kid, my mom was always scolding me for fidgeting...

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i fidgit all the time and have always been pretty skinny.

now my g/f yells at me when i fidget and i have gained weight since meeting her...hmmmm....i also eat a lot better since she cooks so its not spaghetti everynight :)
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
my wife always gets on me because i'm a fidgeter. always have been and my oldest son is a fidgeter also. he is exactly like me.

unfortunately, despite my fidgeting, i am fat 5'10" 220 lbs.

i wonder tho, would i be fatter if i didn't fidget?

Yeah, but how old are you and when did the weight come on?

I'm 40. ;)


i was 125 lbs until 26 yrs of age. i started to gain weight then and went from 140 to 200 in like 8 months.

since went down to 180 lbs then i got married.

after marriage at 30 yrs of age, i went from 180 to 240.

now, i'm trying to get a hold of my weigh condition and am down to 220. with about 40 more lbs to lose.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
my wife always gets on me because i'm a fidgeter. always have been and my oldest son is a fidgeter also. he is exactly like me.

unfortunately, despite my fidgeting, i am fat 5'10" 220 lbs.

i wonder tho, would i be fatter if i didn't fidget?

Yeah, but how old are you and when did the weight come on?

I'm 40. ;)


i was 125 lbs until 26 yrs of age. i started to gain weight then and went from 140 to 200 in like 8 months.

since went down to 180 lbs then i got married.

after marriage at 30 yrs of age, i went from 180 to 240.

now, i'm trying to get a hold of my weigh condition and am down to 220. with about 40 more lbs to lose.

Yikes!! And I complain about getting up to 210 in my 30s. (I'm still 200, but now it's muscle, not flab)

Your metabolism didn't slow down. It died! :Q
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: vi_edit
What I want to know is....how many calories a day does a dog burn wagging it's tail non stop.

:p

Do dogs who wag a lot gain less weight than dogs who don't?

Sounds like we need billions in government money to do a study.

You apply for the funds, and I'll go round up some muts at the pound, OK?

Then we can blow the money on a boat and type up a paper with inconclusive results. Bam!
 
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I can't seem to find the article at WebMD. Do you have a link?

I'm a fidgeter and I'm skinny. The girlfriend kicks me in the shin when she sees me bouncing/twitching my feet. I want to send her this link.:)
 

cerebusPu

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last four years i gained 20 pounds slowly. i was skinny as hell before, now Im fat! i probably spent only 2 days in the not too skinny not too fat stage.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: vi_edit
What I want to know is....how many calories a day does a dog burn wagging it's tail non stop.

:p

Do dogs who wag a lot gain less weight than dogs who don't?

Sounds like we need billions in government money to do a study.

You apply for the funds, and I'll go round up some muts at the pound, OK?

Then we can blow the money on a boat and type up a paper with inconclusive results. Bam!

I like the way you think!
 

Linflas

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Now I know why I was always so skinny. I could never sit still. I was always shifting around or wiggling.

I am a fidgeter and I was skinny until I got married in my late 20's. Then I was hit by the double whammy of quitting smoking and supposedly healthy meals instead of my bachelor diet of pizza, beer, hot dogs, and ramen noodles. Go figure.:disgust:
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
my wife always gets on me because i'm a fidgeter. always have been and my oldest son is a fidgeter also. he is exactly like me.

unfortunately, despite my fidgeting, i am fat 5'10" 220 lbs.

i wonder tho, would i be fatter if i didn't fidget?

Yeah, but how old are you and when did the weight come on?

I'm 40. ;)


i was 125 lbs until 26 yrs of age. i started to gain weight then and went from 140 to 200 in like 8 months.

since went down to 180 lbs then i got married.

after marriage at 30 yrs of age, i went from 180 to 240.

now, i'm trying to get a hold of my weigh condition and am down to 220. with about 40 more lbs to lose.

Yikes!! And I complain about getting up to 210 in my 30s. (I'm still 200, but now it's muscle, not flab)

Your metabolism didn't slow down. It died! :Q

i forgot to add, i also quit smoking when i went from 140 to 200.

oh well. such is life.
 

Nightfall

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I do move around and fidget a lot. I can't stand to be sitting in one place doing nothing. Even now, after I type this message, I am going to have to get up to do something. Sorry, but there is only so much of sitting in one position that I can stand. Even when I watch TV, I am playing with something. Same with a movie.

I am the right weight, not under or overweight. Does it have to do with figeting or playing hockey 3-4 times a week and eating right (for the most part)? I guess stopping pucks a lot helps. :)
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold


i forgot to add, i also quit smoking when i went from 140 to 200.

oh well. such is life.

Yeah, some of my weight came on after I quit as well.