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PlasmaBomb

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Good news everybody!

It looks like I will have a new 1.4 Fiat 500 as a runabout for the weekend. Would anyone be interested in hearing about it next week?
 
PlasmaBomb

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PhoKingGuy said:
How? Take pics please :)
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Right place right time... got a car for a 48 hour test run. Saturday morning till late Sunday night (I know that isn't 48 hours :))

There was a 500 in the mall and its the first one I have seen in real life, so I was having a look and the saleswoman said "its open".

The display model was a 1.4 500 in "Funk White", a pearlescent white, which I must say looked really well, the dash was colour coded, as were the wing mirrors. Interior was the optional red leather (black leather is also an option), which I would have thought would have been gaudy... but I was impressed with, it gave the car a fresh look and cool feel. Retail price should for the model I was sitting in should be around £13k, with the range starting at about £8.5K

I guess showing an interest and asking "intelligent" questions worked out for me as she asked for my details (I gave them) to send a brochure and then asked if I fancied a 24 or 48 hour test... and here we are...

The model arriving on Saturday should be a Gray 1.4 500 Sport, will know more details through the week. I hope they don't let me down and I don't end up with egg on my face in front of you guys...

The 500 has optional stop-start tech, no idea if the demo car will have it yet...
Definitely a cute car, and I was honest about it being small/perhaps too small.

I'm from the UK
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Will definitely try and get some good pics :)

DivideBYZero said:
Nice Ford Ka, I mean Fiat Panda, I mean Fiat 500! ;)
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Yup it's based on the Panda, but the new Ka is definitely built on the 500 platform.
 
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ElFenix

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if the fiesta takes off here and small cars continue to sell well, mulally says the US should get the ka. will fiat, if the 500 is its bread and butter in chrysler, allow the ka to be sold here?

$14K+ for the stripped 500 seems a bit much, though of course we don't have VAT here jacking up the price (6.25&#37; state sales tax does apply in texas). i assume fiat and ford would be building these cars in south-central america for the US market to try to get the price down (though chrysler's current deal with the UAW is so good maybe they could build it here).

fiat/chrysler could go in the direction mini has gone in the US: price it relatively high, keep the supply short and the waiting list long to build a cult following amongst urbanites who can afford to pay a handsome profit for a car that really competes with the yaris.
 
DivideBYZero

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PlasmaBomb said:
Right place right time... got a car for a 48 hour test run. Saturday morning till late Sunday night (I know that isn't 48 hours :))

There was a 500 in the mall and its the first one I have seen in real life, so I was having a look and the saleswoman said "its open".

The display model was a 1.4 500 in "Funk White", a pearlescent white, which I must say looked really well, the dash was colour coded, as were the wing mirrors. Interior was the optional red leather (black leather is also an option), which I would have thought would have been gaudy... but I was impressed with, it gave the car a fresh look and cool feel. Retail price should for the model I was sitting in should be around £13k, with the range starting at about £8.5K

I guess showing an interest and asking "intelligent" questions worked out for me as she asked for my details (I gave them) to send a brochure and then asked if I fancied a 24 or 48 hour test... and here we are...

The model arriving on Saturday should be a Gray 1.4 500 Sport, will know more details through the week. I hope they don't let me down and I don't end up with egg on my face in front of you guys...

The 500 has optional stop-start tech, no idea if the demo car will have it yet...
Definitely a cute car, and I was honest about it being small/perhaps too small.

I'm from the UK
<---- Location

Will definitely try and get some good pics :)


Yup it's based on the Panda, but the new Ka is definitely built on the 500 platform.
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That's what I said. :confused:
 
LTC8K6

LTC8K6

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adlep said:
The auto bailouts were engineered during the GWB presidency...Look it up...
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That was the best you could do? Why would I need to look it up and why do you need to jump in and "defend" Obama? When you jump in like that, it doesn't help your case at all. It makes it look like there is indeed a fire behind the smoke. Obama doesn't need you unless there's an election.

If the bailouts turn out to be successful, you are going to keep pointing out how they were engineered under Bush, right?

What difference does it make which president runs ChryGM anyway? Would it somehow be better if it were Bill Clinton or something? So we'll call it GB/O-MW then.

My next car will be purchased from a non-government run and non union company, and I am a long-time Chevy man. It's the only way I can protest.
 
waffleironhead

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LTC8K6 said:
That was the best you could do? Why would I need to look it up and why do you need to jump in and "defend" Obama? When you jump in like that, it doesn't help your case at all. It makes it look like there is indeed a fire behind the smoke. Obama doesn't need you unless there's an election.

If the bailouts turn out to be successful, you are going to keep pointing out how they were engineered under Bush, right?

What difference does it make which president runs ChryGM anyway? Would it somehow be better if it were Bill Clinton or something? So we'll call it GB/O-MW then.

My next car will be purchased from a non-government run and non union company, and I am a long-time Chevy man. It's the only way I can protest.
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I'm not trying to turn this thread into some P&N mess, but when you are associating obama to somthing like this you are purposely associating something you dislike with someone people are going to defend. If you were not trying to be that way you could have just called it (GM)government motors instead.
 
adlep

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LTC8K6 said:
That was the best you could do? Why would I need to look it up and why do you need to jump in and "defend" Obama? When you jump in like that, it doesn't help your case at all. It makes it look like there is indeed a fire behind the smoke. Obama doesn't need you unless there's an election.

If the bailouts turn out to be successful, you are going to keep pointing out how they were engineered under Bush, right?

What difference does it make which president runs ChryGM anyway? Would it somehow be better if it were Bill Clinton or something? So we'll call it GB/O-MW then.

My next car will be purchased from a non-government run and non union company, and I am a long-time Chevy man. It's the only way I can protest.
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LoL...
Good luck with getting your next car from Tesla motors then ....
Although, when you buddies will find out out that you drive an electric car, they will call you "Obama lover", "Liberal tree-hugger", or a "Sissy from San Francisco"...
And don't even try to go the Korean/Japanese route because....all of these bastards have a government run, socialized health care in their countries....

There is one solution however, to protest the evil government, you should move out deep west, build yourself a nice little house on a prairie, and start ridin horses.

yosemite-sam-with-guns.png


Back on topic...I can't wait to see the 500 in the US
 
Knavish

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adlep said:
The auto bailouts were engineered during the GWB presidency...Look it up...
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Not to get all political here, but if you read the Fortune article by Steven Rattner (the "car czar") on the auto bailout, he personally contradicts this statement:

When the Obama administration took office on Jan. 20, it inherited nothing in the auto area: no staff, no stacks of analyses, no plans of any kind.​

It's actually a very good article on the state of the auto industry & the bailout procedure. He even mentions Fiat, which is *almost* related to the original post in this thread. :)
http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/21/autos/auto_bailout_rattner.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2009102109
 
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ElFenix

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holy crap can we get anywhere near the original topic?


(fiat and GM have had an interesting relation over the last few years, though that's neither here nor there)
 
ElFenix

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holy crap can we get anywhere near the original topic?


(fiat and GM have had an interesting relation over the last few years, though that's neither here nor there)
 
LTC8K6

LTC8K6

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Adlep, the government isn't evil, it does what it always does, try to grow. GM and Chrysler are the idiots who keep behaving the same way and expecting a different outcome.

Waffleironhead, you must have missed where I typed that it didn't matter which president...
 
brblx

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it didn't matter which president, yet you wanted to point out that it was all obama's fault.

GTFO, republican troll. take your spoon-fed 'opinions' to the P&N cesspool.
 
LTC8K6

LTC8K6

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brblx said:
it didn't matter which president, yet you wanted to point out that it was all obama's fault.

GTFO, republican troll. take your spoon-fed 'opinions' to the P&N cesspool.
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And Adlep immediately pointed out that it was all Bush's fault... :biggrin:

And Knavish chimed in that it might not have been...yet you take a shot at me... :biggrin:

But others are correct, this is way too far off topic and I apologize for that.
 
brblx

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the above post was a bit harsh, sorry. i just hate the lameass fights in the P&N forum and don't want to have to read them elsewhere.

back to the regularly scheduled program...
 
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