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Few questions about overclocking/Pentium D's

Taxon

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Hi

I've managed to get my hands on an old Pentium D 925 system. Since it's long in the tooth, I figured I'd get some overclocking experience. I have a couple of questions.

When I first tried OCing it on the lower quality motherboard it came with, I could only get +200MHz due to lack of voltage control. However, on the jump from 3000->3200 the system lost 7+ seconds on Super-Pi. It was stable under prime for several hours though. Any ideas as to why this happened? The power supply was a 350W Silverstone Strider which I think was decent for its time.

I switched to a newer Galaxy motherboard and have been able to hit 3.4Ghz with no voltage increase and 3.6Ghz with +0.25. Of course Super Pi scores increased dramatically!

I'm a little worried about the heat though. I'm using the stock 775 cooler with a copper centre and getting 47-55C idle and 59-65C under load. I understand that most netbursts were hot as hell, but I thought that the 65nm die shrink had made it somewhat better? Should I be worried about those kind of temps and if not, how much more headroom do I have? I will be employing the machine for near round the clock Rosetta@Home so I'd like to get as much life out of it as possible.

-It's summer here at the moment, though it hasn't been blazing hot
-I'm using Coolermaster thermal paste (cools my AMD X2 245 just fine)

Thanks!
 

Taxon

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Don't think so, they were in seperate parts of the BIOS. Speaking of memory, there was a very nice boost from the DDR400 board -> DDR2-800! Hungry, hungry Presler.
 

DrMrLordX

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I think cubeless is referring to the fact that you might have switched memory straps by upping your FSB. A 200 mhz increase doesn't seem like it would be enough to do that, but . . . what do I know?

There may have been throttling issues on the first board for some reason.
 

Taxon

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I just woke up and Speedfan was reading a whopping great 102C (even though it's cold in my room at the moment). It must be wrong, as I rebooted & it was hovering around 60C. Think I'll be switching HS anyway.

Memory/throttling wouldn't surprise me with that old board - it was DDR400 & AGP in 2006 when the original owner bought it, never great.
 
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Tsavo

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I just woke up and Speedfan was reading a whopping great 102C (even though it's cold in my room at the moment). It must be wrong, as I rebooted & it was hovering around 60C. Think I'll be switching HS anyway.

Memory/throttling wouldn't surprise me with that old board - it was DDR400 & AGP in 2006 when the original owner bought it, never great.

I thought those old P4 Duals did 102C in S3.

:awe:
 

daveybrat

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That doesn't sound too bad. I have customer's machines running the P4 D 820 and 830 cpu's running at 65C at stock speed and intel copper fan.
 

Taxon

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So 70-75C load 24/7 will be fine? Do not care if the CPU fails in 5 years rather than 10, just as long as it's not gonna crap itself after a few hours at these temps. :p
 

stevty2889

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So 70-75C load 24/7 will be fine? Do not care if the CPU fails in 5 years rather than 10, just as long as it's not gonna crap itself after a few hours at these temps. :p

70-75C will cause the throttling to kick in, so you will lose performance. I can't remember exactly what the throttling temp was on the 9xx series pentium D's, but I believe it kicked in somewhere between 60-70C. My 820 used to throttle on the stock heatsink at stock speeds. Even with the 65nm Pentium D, you aren't going to get very far trying to OC on the stock heatsink, they already run too close to throttling temp.
 

tweakboy

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My old man has a Pentium D 3Ghz . But he would kill me if I OCed his rig lol

You can get those to 4Ghz ,, just a voltage game, and keeping RAM in tact,,, gl
 

Markfw

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when you can get an AMD motherboard and 2.9 ghz dual-core CPU for $60, why would anybody even bother with a Pentium D ?
 

DrMrLordX

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Who knows. The OP might have gotten it for free. That's about what a 925 would be worth these days . . .
 

Taxon

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when you can get an AMD motherboard and 2.9 ghz dual-core CPU for $60, why would anybody even bother with a Pentium D ?

Motherboard AND CPU for $60? Maybe in America, here it's +80USD just for X2 245. Yes, the Pentium D system was free...

I notice the 3.6Ghz Pentium D's were nearly as fast as the original E6300s too....just with super inefficiency. :D