Ferrari FF = BMW Z3 Coupe on Über Steroids?

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[jhu]

Looks like a 2-door Panamera

 

[PottedMeat]

shoulda made it look like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_250_GTO


wow it looks like a honda with braces from the front:

i vote ugly ferrari

 

[Sunny129]

...or the Solstice hatchback lol:

...on a serious note, i kinda feel that this new Ferrari is the exact opposite of the title of this thread - that is, it seems more like a toned down/watered down version of the Z3 Coupe/Z3 M Coupe. either way, it doesn't hold a candle to the hotness of a Z3 M Coupe:

...Ferrari needs to stick to sports cars and GTs...NOT hot hatches lol.

 

[JulesMaximus]

...or the Solstice hatchback lol:

...on a serious note, i kinda feel that this new Ferrari is the exact opposite of the title of this thread - that is, it seems more like a toned down/watered down version of the Z3 Coupe/Z3 M Coupe. either way, it doesn't hold a candle to the hotness of a Z3 M Coupe:

Hey pal, you just blow in from stupidville?

0-62 in 3.7 seconds (a third quicker than the 612) and a top speed of 208 mph (about nine mph faster than the 612). Credit that bit to the all-new, direct-injection, 6.3-liter V12 and its 651 horsepower and 504 lb-ft of torque.

And the Solstice hatch is tiny...as is the Z3. No back seat in either of those cars.

 

[punjabiplaya]

ew

i'm assuming he means toned down as in appearance. Less "butch" and "macho" and more elegants curves.

 

[alfa147x]

I like it :\

 

[Sunny129]

Hey pal, you just blow in from stupidville?

i was referring to the aesthetics, not the performance, seeing as how that's what everyone in this thread is talking about...so perhaps you should be asking yourself that question.

if you want to talk about performance, then its a no-brainer that a current Ferrari/future Ferrari concept is going to outperform a 1999-2002 Z3 M Coupe stock for stock. the funny thing is that i can already tell you're a bench racer, spouting off insignificant stats such as 0-60mph times and top speeds, when in reality we know that those stats mean very little to anyone who is first and foremost concerned with being the quickest/fastest around a circuit. what matters far more are things like power-to-weight ratio, power & torque curves (as opposed to peak power/torque numbers), steering feedback, understeer vs oversteer, and neutrality in transitions from acceleration to braking, left turns to right turns, increasing elevation to decreasing elevation, etc.

what's even funnier is that the M Coupe i pictured above would dust off most Ferraris (that aren't specifically track prepped) around a circuit...granted, you had no way of knowing how capable/modified the above M Coupe was...and i can't blame you for assuming it was stock, seeing as how the only obvious modifications are wheels and a drop. regardless, you should practice thinking before you speak/type...you'll find that you'll have to remove your foot from your mouth far less often...

And the Solstice hatch is tiny...as is the Z3. No back seat in either of those cars.

that doesn't change the fact that their profiles are quite similar looking which, again, was the point the OP was making with the Z3 Coupe as an example...

 

[JulesMaximus]

i was referring to the aesthetics, not the performance, seeing as how that's what everyone in this thread is talking about...so perhaps you should be asking yourself that question.

if you want to talk about performance, then its a no-brainer that a current Ferrari/future Ferrari concept is going to outperform a 1999-2002 Z3 M Coupe stock for stock. the funny thing is that i can already tell you're a bench racer, spouting off insignificant stats such as 0-60mph times and top speeds, when in reality we know that those stats mean very little to anyone who is first and foremost concerned with being the quickest/fastest around a circuit. what matters far more are things like power-to-weight ratio, power & torque curves (as opposed to peak power/torque numbers), steering feedback, understeer vs oversteer, and neutrality in transitions from acceleration to braking, left turns to right turns, increasing elevation to decreasing elevation, etc.

what's even funnier is that the M Coupe i pictured above would dust off most Ferraris (that aren't specifically track prepped) around a circuit...granted, you had no way of knowing how capable/modified the above M Coupe was...and i can't blame you for assuming it was stock, seeing as how the only obvious modifications are wheels and a drop. regardless, you should practice thinking before you speak/type...you'll find that you'll have to remove your foot from your mouth far less often...



that doesn't change the fact that their profiles are quite similar looking which, again, was the point the OP was making with the Z3 Coupe as an example...

And you would be WRONG.

I will agree that it doesn't look that much different than the Z3 coupe (a car I've actually driven BTW) just larger. I'm not crazy about the Ferrari and the fact that it will cost more than 4 Z coupes, when they were new, is yet another reason why nobody will buy it.

Also, it is unlikely that any Z coupe would touch this car in performance.

BTW-You might want to remove that stick from your ass.

 

[DivideBYZero]

And you would be WRONG.

I will agree that it doesn't look that much different than the Z3 coupe (a car I've actually driven BTW) just larger. I'm not crazy about the Ferrari and the fact that it will cost more than 4 Z coupes, when they were new, is yet another reason why nobody will buy it.

Also, it is unlikely that any Z coupe would touch this car in performance.

BTW-You might want to remove that stick from your ass.

To be fair you called him stupid. You kinda got the reaction you wanted.

 

[Sunny129]

And you would be WRONG.

well then if you're not a magazine racer, then don't spout off the silly statistics that make you look like one...or at least do some reading before you type, and realize that we were only talking about aesthetics (and not performance). if we were talking about performance, i obviously couldn't call this Ferrari a watered down version of the Z3 Coupe/M Coupe.

Also, it is unlikely that any Z coupe would touch this car in performance.

i actually agree with you here. in fact, you could say the same thing about the Z3 M Coupe (the ///M version of the Z3 Coupe), stock for stock. but there are several (albeit a very small minority in the grand scheme of things) modified M Coupes out there that could hold their own against Ferrari's best on a circuit (such as the Enzo, 360 Challenge Stradale, F430 Scuderia, etc.), whether you choose to believe it or not. if you think about it, you could mod a 70's Ford Pinto and make it faster than any Ferrari street car out there...all you need is money.

BTW-You might want to remove that stick from your ass.

look man, i got no hard feelings. but you got what you had coming to you when you first entered this thread and called me stupid. and i'm sorry if insult was added to injury, but you did that to yourself when you started responding to me by quoting performance figures when performance wasn't even what any of us were talking about in the first place...

 

[JulesMaximus]

look man, i got no hard feelings. but you got what you had coming to you when you first entered this thread and called me stupid. and i'm sorry if insult was added to injury, but you did that to yourself when you started responding to me by quoting performance figures when performance wasn't even what any of us were talking about in the first place...

Actually, I didn't call you stupid, it was a Spongebob quote. I thought it was funny. It was just a small off the cuff comment and it elicited a wall of text from you for some reason.

Got what was coming to me? BWAHAHAHA!!! Guess you really put me in my place...

 

[dpodblood]

I don't mind the front or back, but the side profile is kinda ugly. And that's something a Ferrari shouldn't be.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I don't mind the front or back, but the side profile is kinda ugly. And that's something a Ferrari shouldn't be.

I agree.

Honestly, I had become rather bored with the look of a lot of the more recent Ferrari cars until this came along...which is pure sex. Probably the best looking Ferrari road car I've seen since the 1960s or 1950s.

 

[ponyo]

I agree.

Honestly, I had become rather bored with the look of a lot of the more recent Ferrari cars until this came along...which is pure sex. Probably the best looking Ferrari road car I've seen since the 1960s or 1950s.

I love everything about the 458 except the front. If you replaced it with Enzo front, the car would be perfect.

 

[CVSiN]

shoulda made it look like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_250_GTO


wow it looks like a honda with braces from the front:

i vote ugly ferrari

anyone else see a cross eyed menacing grin there in the headlights and the grill..
I cant unsee it now lol..

 

[disappoint]

Damn I've seen girls that fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down but I never thought I'd see a Ferrari that crashed into that very tree until now!

 

[RichUK]

The F40 is still the best Ferrari ever.

Just saying.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

The F40 is still the best Ferrari ever.

Just saying.

Agreed.

Pontiac did wonders with their Solstice GXP coupe - too bad GM axed Pontiac.

 

[theeedude]

http://www.ferrarifour.com

The sound of that thing is absolutely epic.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Hey pal, you just blow in from stupidville?


And the Solstice hatch is tiny...as is the Z3. No back seat in either of those cars.

and that solstice hatch is not a hatch. tha's the solstice coupe.

 

[JulesMaximus]

and that solstice hatch is not a hatch. tha's the solstice coupe.

Whatever...

 

[Fenixgoon]

Whatever...

like 5 people made the same mistake. that's the only reason i had to fix it