Fermi Warp Scheduling versus G80 and GT200

[Idontcare]

Original in Japanese

Google translated to English

The graphics are easily interpretable regardless the language though, definitely speaks to how "wide" Fermi is going to be. Lots of good stuff in there.

 

[cbn]

What do you think Nvidia will launch with respect to middle of the road GPUs?

I'm sure something like a GTX360 will be on par with HD5870....but what about the lower SKUs? (HD5850, HD5770, HD5750).

 

[Idontcare]

Figure at least one SKU will be a harvested Fermi, reduced clocks and reduced SP's akin to the 5850/5870 Cypress situation.

I fully expect NV to service the performance tiers below that with discreet chips designed to be smaller, same set of functions (DX11, etc) but just much less of them. Again similar to the Cypress/Juniper situation.

 

[cbn]

Originally posted by: Idontcare
Figure at least one SKU will be a harvested Fermi, reduced clocks and reduced SP's akin to the 5850/5870 Cypress situation.

I fully expect NV to service the performance tiers below that with discreet chips designed to be smaller, same set of functions (DX11, etc) but just much less of them. Again similar to the Cypress/Juniper situation.

I hope they have a mainstream DX11 GPU ready soon. Wouldn't it be faster just to shrink GT200?

GTX 285 @ 40nm would probably sell pretty well to the masses of people with weak PSUs if it needed only one power connector.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: Just learning
Wouldn't it be faster just to shrink GT200?

GTX 285 @ 40nm would probably sell pretty well to the masses of people with weak PSUs if it needed only one power connector.

I don't know if they'd be able to just tack on the DX11 features to GT200.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: thilanliyan

Originally posted by: Just learning
Wouldn't it be faster just to shrink GT200?

GTX 285 @ 40nm would probably sell pretty well to the masses of people with weak PSUs if it needed only one power connector.

I don't know if they'd be able to just tack on the DX11 features to GT200.

We really don't know what Nvidia has planned, they haven't shown anything regarding the "other" chips they have in the works in parallel to Fermi. I hear things, but nothing official in the public domain.

For all we know such a GT200c w/DX11 is in the works. They carried G92 along with G200 into 55nm shrinks after all.

Still though, if the story of 2010 is going to be all things DX11 then it probably makes more sense that they would create a portfolio of Fermi Jr's to address the lesser ASP SKU's just as AMD is doing with their Cypress Jr chips (Juniper, Redwood, and Cedar).

 

[bryanW1995]

g92 was kept around for the midrange b/c it was so cheap to produce, all the r&d was done a LONG time ago, and it was competitive enough to keep the lower/midrange of 4xxx under control. nvidia would have to make some pretty serious changes to any of their dx10 parts to get it to dx11 functionality, it will probably be more cost effective for them to just make dx11 parts out of fermi. Besides, while gt200 got the job done, it didn't obliterate the competition the way g80/92 did back in the day.

 

[cbn]

Originally posted by: thilanliyan

Originally posted by: Just learning
Wouldn't it be faster just to shrink GT200?

GTX 285 @ 40nm would probably sell pretty well to the masses of people with weak PSUs if it needed only one power connector.

I don't know if they'd be able to just tack on the DX11 features to GT200.

Maybe they wouldn't need to.

DX10 GTX285 would be a lot cheaper @ 40nm.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: thilanliyan

Originally posted by: Just learning
Wouldn't it be faster just to shrink GT200?

GTX 285 @ 40nm would probably sell pretty well to the masses of people with weak PSUs if it needed only one power connector.

I don't know if they'd be able to just tack on the DX11 features to GT200.

Why not that's what ATI did to the 4xxx series.

 

[cbn]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: thilanliyan

Originally posted by: Just learning
Wouldn't it be faster just to shrink GT200?

GTX 285 @ 40nm would probably sell pretty well to the masses of people with weak PSUs if it needed only one power connector.

I don't know if they'd be able to just tack on the DX11 features to GT200.

Why not that's what ATI did to the 4xxx series.

Yes, but I think the tesselator has been on ATI cards for quite some time.

 

[Ben90]

Interesting article, I kinda hope GT300 is another G80, IMO everyone wins if that happens. Some people would bitch about how nvidia is selling a $700 card, but at least that option is open for some people (not me lol) and it raises the bar for next generation of vcards to just keep getting better and better.

Ill admit I kinda stopped reading it after I saw the "one cycle to issue an order 1Warp." I was loling so hard after that, i need to go to bed now lol

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Ben90
Ill admit I kinda stopped reading it after I saw the "one cycle to issue an order 1Warp." I was loling so hard after that, i need to go to bed now lol

Sometimes the translated english makes little to no sense, and without a direct background of experience in the field of gpu's I sometimes can't tell if its just me not being capable of understanding what is being said, but I do really enjoy the graphics that Goto-san creates for his articles. It tends to put things in a perspective that I can convince myself I am understanding correctly.