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T2K ,I read your post there OK . But you seem to attack the messenger. Not smart. Attack the message.

Heres a good example. There is talk here about the the slides from AMD/ATI prerelease. Go back and read those threads.

I was involved in those threads, When was it that you had offical word about the 5900 Now the 5970. Go back read those threads . I mentioned the 5900 more than once . Way befor anyone knew. Its all about that compiler in your mind. You have to take available information and connect the dots if it don't fit through it out of your mind.

I don't like NV at all. But I still have to run there cards. There has been threads here that just flat out lied about NV. I didn't jump all over them . I lol said it makes zero sense and dismissed at once because dots didn't connect.

Keys has a very good post above. About NV internal use of bad steppings. You can't dismiss this completely because it does fit on the dot scale .

Now after saying that . Look at Larrabee being moved back . You got guys jumping all over that . Intel fails . LOL It does not fit the dot scale. I wanted to see larrabee sooner than later . But I always had trouble with one FACT. Larrabee on 45nm. OH I wanted it but it did not fit the dot scale. With intels cancel of the 45nm for consumers tho disappointed now the dot scale works. Larrabee@32nm makes sense. The use of 45nm for working on programs makes great sense.

Attack the message not the messenger.

You are learning to use your mind but you need to refine that. Knowing lies surround you isn't enough . You have to find the source of those lies . You along with others here are tring to see this. Work on that.

If you have to attack there are far better ways than what your using . Try poor grammer and spelling it drives them crazy . But in your research don't believe everthing , Use insight, Take what you know to be true fact and connect dots, If it don't fit there is a 95% chance its BS.


Another example MY first postings here were under the Zinn2b handle, Connect the dots. Do you really believe a follower of Howard Zinn , Is a bad speller , Grammer. Thats a question I leave to you and others to ans.
 
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Nemesis 1 said:
T2K ,I read your post there OK . But you seem to attack the messenger. Not smart. Attack the message.
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I don't think so - so far only I goit adhom attacks here, typically from people with rather hilarious posting history.

Heres a good example. There is talk here about the the slides from AMD/ATI prerelease. Go back and read those threads.

I was involved in those threads, When was it that you had offical word about the 5900 Now the 5970. Go back read those threads . I mentioned the 5900 more than once . Way befor anyone knew. Its all about that compiler in your mind. You have to take available information and connect the dots if it don't fit through it out of your mind.

I don't like NV at all. But I still have to run there cards. There has been threads here that just flat out lied about NV. I didn't jump all over them . I lol said it makes zero sense and dismissed at once because dots didn't connect.

Keys has a very good post above. About NV internal use of bad steppings. You can't dismiss this completely because it does fit on the dot scale .
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You cannot test on something that won't run perfectly fine, not at full clock etc.

Now after saying that . Look at Larrabee being moved back . You got guys jumping all over that . Intel fails . LOL It does not fit the dot scale. I wanted to see larrabee sooner than later . But I always had trouble with one FACT. Larrabee on 45nm. OH I wanted it but it did not fit the dot scale. With intels cancel of the 45nm for consumers tho disappointed now the dot scale works. Larrabee@32nm makes sense. The use of 45nm for working on programs makes great sense.

Attack the message not the messenger.
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That's what I do, though I don't like shills, I admit.

You are learning to use your mind but you need to refine that. Knowing lies surround you isn't enough . You have to find the source of those lies . You along with others here are tring to see this. Work on that.

If you have to attack there are far better ways than what your using . Try poor grammer and spelling it drives them crazy . But in your research don't believe everthing , Use insight, Take what you know to be true fact and connect dots, If it don't fit there is a 95% chance its BS.


Another example MY first postings here were under the Zinn2b handle, Connect the dots. Do you really believe a follower of Howard Zinn , Is a bad speller , Grammer. Thats a question I leave to you and others to ans.
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Kuzi said:
Now if NV are hoping to release GF100 in February/March time-frame, then I'm sure they would have some cards running by now.
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😱 What makes you think that?
As far as rumors go if it's indeed in the oven as Charlie said - which makes it to March - then they don't even have the final chips yet. If there's no A3 then they will release well before March... either way I think you're wrong.
 
Nemesis 1 said:
Try poor grammer and spelling it drives them crazy ...

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Another example MY first postings here were under the Zinn2b handle, Connect the dots. Do you really believe a follower of Howard Zinn , Is a bad speller , Grammer. Thats a question I leave to you and others to ans.
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Oh dear. Lovely. Just lovely.

But I read your message, and saying "attack the message instead of the messenger" is great advice. Kudos.

More on topic: This thread exploded so fast, DESPITE an nVidia focus group member already saying it's not from nVidia. It's too good to be true and has been tagged as such (for the moment; we can still reserve the right to be amazed when the final product does come out and if it does happen to be this great).

It's fake, I guess that's what the "[Fake]" in the title implies.

I for one would be happy if Fermi does come out close to this. Hopefully it might mean better prices across the board for us. Even if not, that means there's a better/higher-performance option if ever the 5870 /5970 isn't enough for some crazy game.

If not, well, I can take the disappointment and buy a ton of ATi cards until I get over the disappointment nVidia hands me.

Either way, it's a win. And given that this "benchmark" has pretty much been outed as a fake (from thread title to the early post of Keysplayr), maybe we should all take a breather and not get too emotional about it.
 
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T2K now thats just foolish. Nv can use a poor stepping for internal use , Its Just STUPID to believe otherwise.
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But not for game benchmarks. That's my point: they can use it for many things, of course but not to make these benchmarks unless they are final buthen why would they blow another gazillion on another respin, let alone losing another 4-6 weeks?
 
It feels better for Nvidia lover to see a chart of information about the new video card. However, I still remember how off the evergreen leaks were, and I don't think this round is going to be more accurate.

The bottom line is, if it isn't official, then don't believe it. There are reasons why vendors don't release info, one of them is because even engineers of the card don't really know how it will perform after it is live. There is a big gap between practical and theoretical figures, then there are faiths and rumors. Take it is a baseless and rough guess instead of anything reliable.

Leave it to reviewers like anadtech to tell us how the card will be as they are the ones who will get the actural card asap.
 
Very true. I mentioned this earlier: developing drivers takes time and while they can do pretty amazing things on emulators, they cannot do final, per-game tweaks without shipping cards - hence those magic jumps in new drivers long after launch date.
 
T2k said:
Very true. I mentioned this earlier: developing drivers takes time and while they can do pretty amazing things on emulators, they cannot do final, per-game tweaks without shipping cards - hence those magic jumps in new drivers long after launch date.
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Plus the voltage setting may not even pass QA. In fact, they probably don't even have a QA spec out yet. Even if they have a working card, the driver may not be final yet. Things like tessellation may not be fully enabled or enabled correctly, which will seriously change the performance. That is if the info was released directly from the vendor.

Please don't get my wrong, I will love to see Nvidia to release a monster fast card at affordable price, but faith is one thing, fact is another. The fact is, Nvidia don't even have a release date yet.
 
yh125d said:
Ya know, a few months ago, nvidia owners got upset by the AMD PR slides showing 5870 walking all over GTX295 and called foul saying they're just PR and not-accurate. And you know what?

They were completely right.
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Hey, look at my card, a lowly 96GT, I could give two hoots about which is faster....But I'd never buy ATi again, bitten twice, shame on me!
 
yh125d said:
If they could make their architecture more modular, in that they could have a bunch of gaming widgets and a handful of GPGPU twockers for their GTX card, and a handful of gaming widgets and a bunch of GPGPU twockers for their HPC card. No wasted GPGPU die space on gamer cards, no wasted gaming die space on HPC cards. Now THAT, would be a huge win, though I don't think it'd be very feasible
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Now we're talking, modular GPU's,main card and just add as many performance modules as your system can take!
 
SolMiester said:
Hey, look at my card, a lowly 96GT, I could give two hoots about which is faster....But I'd never buy ATi again, bitten twice, shame on me!
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OT (w/e that is now...) but, the 9600GT is a great lil card, had mine running my 24" quite happily up until quite recently when i jumped on a very nicely priced 4890 and sold on the 9600GT 🙂

I have no brand loyalty issues between ATI / AMD simply buy which offers the best price/performance at my time of purchase. I'm sure any bad experiences you may or may not have had, were simply coincidental.
 
Locked at OP's request, because the results are fake, and because T2k can't stop trolling.

Video Mod BFG10K.
 
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