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fellow 80s babys growin up in the 90s help me remember good snes

haha, I installed an snes emulator last year in my desktop. I play zelda, zelda II, and a Link to the past mostly on it, though I did play lots of super metroid BITD as well.

I still have my snes in a box upstairs, I've been known to pull it out on occasion as well. :ninja:

Soundmanred said:
Do you do anything that's not illegal?
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Is it illegal to emulate games that haven't been sold for 20 yrs?
 
i have about 6000 roms for various emulators (59.1 GB's). Most i think are for MAME. Theres only a few Snes games i really liked. SMB4 and SF2 were my most favorite. Not sure i'd enjoy them playing on a Tablet though without physical gamepad.

JackBurton said:
Technically it is.
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Technically so what? i've been emulating consoles for 10 years now and still waiting to get arrested:colbert:
 
dk country/1/2,super metroid,super mario world,yoshi island,tetris attack,ff3,killer instinct,loz link to past, among others
 
Illusion of Gaia
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2
Killer Instinct
Super Mario All*Stars + Super Mario World
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles in Time
Super Metroid
Tetris Attack
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy III*
Earthworm Jim
Earthworm Jim 2
Star Fox
Battletoads in Battlemaniacs


You can skip the fetch-quest that is DKC3 or you can force yourself to enjoy the good parts.

I've been enjoying the hell out of these on my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play 4G (R800at) and on my actual SNES. 🙂 I finished getting 100% again in Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island just last night. EXTREMELY satisfying. Just make sure you don't fall for the temptation of save states.

*Better known as FFVI
 
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JackBurton said:
Technically it is.
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Lies. I own the original games and have the means to dump them to ROM and exercise my legal right to a backup. You are a liar. It's perfectly legal as long as you own the games. Technically, you just said that Animal Crossing on Gamecube, the Virtual Console on Wii, and the Classic NES Series on GBA are all illegal, as well as the eReader NES games, Super Mario All*Stars Limited Edition, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Prime, The Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Master Quest Bonus Disc, Rogue Squadron III Rogue Leader Bonus Disc, and on and on and on.
 
CZroe said:
Lies. I own the original games and have the means to dump them to ROM and exercise my legal right to a backup. You are a liar. It's perfectly legal as long as you own the games. Technically, you just said that Animal Crossing on Gamecube, the Virtual Console on Wii, and the Classic NES Series on GBA are all illegal, as well as the eReader NES games, Super Mario All*Stars Limited Edition, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Prime, The Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Master Quest Bonus Disc, Rogue Squadron III Rogue Leader Bonus Disc, and on and on and on.
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Really? This is where you are going?

1) We were under the assumption that they don't own the games, since he was asking for 'good games to download'. If he owned them, he wouldn't have to ask. So YES it is illegal. Nobody is a 'liar', so quit your yappin.

2) You second (non) point is just a cluster of wtf. Nobody said or implied that the owners of the game can't publish remakes. In fact, some posters mentioned remakes.
 
To be clear, emu's are not illegal. ROM's are if you do not own the original copy. That said, it is also not enforceable. Their more worried about current game copyright infringement than they are their 20 yr old titles.

Then you have Abandonware, where the copyright holders either release it free or no longer in owned by any company. There are sites that tailor to just those roms in question.


HamburgerBoy said:
Doesn't Nintendo have some kind of retro online market thing now where they sell a lot of their older games?
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yes they do, on the Wii. Sega, Atari and Namco has been selling theirs in packs for various platforms.
However there are thousands and thousands of games that likely never will get resold. Some companies likely don't even realize they have the copyright to some old titles from some publisher they bought out 20 yrs ago either.
 
Dumac said:
CZroe said:
Lies. I own the original games and have the means to dump them to ROM and exercise my legal right to a backup. You are a liar. It's perfectly legal as long as you own the games. Technically, you just said that Animal Crossing on Gamecube, the Virtual Console on Wii, and the Classic NES Series on GBA are all illegal, as well as the eReader NES games, Super Mario All*Stars Limited Edition, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Prime, The Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Master Quest Bonus Disc, Rogue Squadron III Rogue Leader Bonus Disc, and on and on and on.
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2) You second (non) point is just a cluster of wtf. Nobody said or implied that the owners of the game can't publish remakes. In fact, some posters mentioned remakes.
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He's not talking about remakes. Nintendo has used software emulation many times, even before Virtual Console. Emulators themselves are not illegal, but the OP's suggested activity of downloading copyright material for use with an emulator is illegal.

- Animal Crossing on Gamecube included a software NES emulator with many unlockable NES games. You could also transfer these to Game Boy Advance. Definitely emulated and NOT ported. Hackers extracted the emulator and used it to run other games.
- Metroid: Prime on Gamecube had an unlockable software-emulated version of the classic NES Metroid. It could also transfer an emulated version to the Game Boy Advance.
- Metroid Fusion (GBA) included an unlockable software-emulated version of the original Metroid.
- Fight Night: Round 3 on Gamecube had an unlockable software-emulated version of the SNES Super Punch Out11
- The Legend of Zelda: CE and the Zelda:OoT Bonus Disc on Gamecube included software-emulated NES and N64 games. Jurai extracted the N64 emulator code and it can be used to run some other games, like Super Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64.
- Some of Nintendo's store demos on Gamecube had software-emulated GBA games (no GB Player required).
- An unlicensed, legal, software GBA emulator ("Advance Game Port") by Datel was released on Gamecube. It interfaced with real game cartridges through accessory that connected to the memory card slot. The game's ROM data would be temporarily dumped to memory. Most save progress could also be written-back to the original cartridge's EEPROM / SRAM.
- The NES Classics series of GBA carts were emulated in software.
- Virtual Console games on Wii are emulated, not ported. With the right tools and a hacked Wii, you can replace the ROM data and run different games on Nintendo's own emulator.
- Crono Cross for Playstation included the original SNES ROM data. I'm sure this was only for resource data (graphics, text) and the actual code was running natively.
- eReader Classic NES Series games were software-emulated, not ported.
- Super Mario All-Stars CE 25th Anniversary includes a software-emulated version of the SNES game.

I don't know what kind of emulator was supposedly included with the Rogue Squadron III bonus disc...but I'm guessing there was something because CZroe mentioned it.
 
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Ichinisan said:
He's not talking about remakes. Nintendo has used software emulation many times, even before Virtual Console. Emulators themselves are not illegal, but the OP's suggested activity of downloading copyright material for use with an emulator is illegal.
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Ah, I didn't know he was talking about emulators. Still, nobody was focusing on emulators. I know (and I think most know) that emulators aren't illegal. We are talking about the ROMs here. If we go over the whole chain of comments:

Originally Posted by bryanW1995
Is it illegal to emulate games that haven't been sold for 20 yrs?
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Originally Posted by JackBurton
Technically it is.
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Originally Posted by CZroe
Lies. I own the original games and have the means to dump them to ROM and exercise my legal right to a backup. You are a liar. It's perfectly legal as long as you own the games.
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So the issue here was the games, and since zane doesn't own them, downloading ROMs would be illegal. So then CZroe's second comment doesn't follow, since nobody was talking about the legality of emulators, but instead the legality of emulating games you don't own.
 
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as for the illegal comments....i look at it like this....just like the music industry...this is 2012...people are intelligent if they dont want there shit pirated they have two options..make shit worth buying,or get smarter so that we can't pirate..cuz right now we can pirate,and the shit they put out aint worth paying for...there is stuff i will pay for..alot of electronica artists,i buy there stuff,good movies i pay for via netflix..catch my drift..lady gaga....sorry the one or two songs i like..im not paying 20 bucks for those 2 songs
 
zanejohnson said:
as for the illegal comments....i look at it like this....just like the music industry...this is 2012...people are intelligent if they dont want there shit pirated they have two options..make shit worth buying,or get smarter so that we can't pirate..cuz right now we can pirate,and the shit they put out aint worth paying for...there is stuff i will pay for..alot of electronica artists,i buy there stuff,good movies i pay for via netflix..catch my drift..lady gaga....sorry the one or two songs i like..im not paying 20 bucks for those 2 songs
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Make whatever excuses you want, they are still crappy excuses. Nothing you say can justify pirating.

That said, all this frenzy over pirating is a waste of time and effort. Pirates will be pirates; money is better spent improving your product and thereby increasing your legitimate customer base.
 
CZroe said:
Illusion of Gaia
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2
Killer Instinct
Super Mario All*Stars + Super Mario World
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles in Time
Super Metroid
Tetris Attack
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy III*
Earthworm Jim
Earthworm Jim 2
Star Fox
Battletoads in Battlemaniacs


You can skip the fetch-quest that is DKC3 or you can force yourself to enjoy the good parts.

I've been enjoying the hell out of these on my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play 4G (R800at) and on my actual SNES. 🙂 I finished getting 100% again in Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island just last night. EXTREMELY satisfying. Just make sure you don't fall for the temptation of save states.

*Better known as FFVI
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How did you not include Secret of Mana on that list?

Add
Secret of Mana
Super Punch Out
Castlevania Dracula X
Breath of Fire
UN Squadron
Demon's Quest

Honorable Mentions that Ive never played but head they were good
Shadowrun
Flashback
Lufia
Terranigma
 
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