"Feel good" teaching facing massive backlash

[spidey07]

"Twenge, the author of "Generation Me: Why Today's Young Americans Are More Confident, Assertive, Entitled -- and More Miserable Than Ever Before," said narcissists tend to lack empathy, react aggressively to criticism and favor self-promotion over helping others."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/02/27/self.centered.students.ap/index.html

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And here it is in bold proof of entitlement and "I'm special" mentality. Everybody knows the dangers of such attitude but yet it is still encouraged in the name of political correctness. No dodge ball because johnny's feelings might be hurt. No grades because it *gasp* encourages people to do their best.

More proof that kids are ill prepared for the "real world" where you aren't a special little snowflake. You're just like everybody else. You can even feel the pulse from the young people on this board. Like the world "owes" people something or they "deserve" something.

Hopefully this will be a wake up call to state officials to put a stop to the nonsense infesting our schools.

 

[Arcex]

Yeah, it's dangerous to teach everyone that they are entitled to preferential treatment.

Only those of us who truly are better than the rabble deserve to be treated as such...

 

[ayabe]

This is a result of the attitudes of baby boomers and what lessons they are or are not teaching their kids.

For instance, buying your 10 year old a cell phone sends the wrong message.

Same with people who buy their kids a BMW on their 16th birthday.

Kids are a reflection of their parents, if your parents are WASPY snobs, chances are, you will be too.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think this narcissism thing is all part of the gay agenda.

 

[CPA]

The downfall of our younger generation is solely on the shoulders of those who championed "self-esteem".

 

[theeedude]

Umm, hello. Entitlement mentality? Young people have that mentality because they have to fight for themselves, and they are working harder than ever to make ends meet. The old generation went out and joined unions to get bennies, voted themselves Social Security, medicare, GI bill, etc and so on, and now they are telling us we have an entitlement mentality? This is after they stick our generation with trillions in debt, I say they can go F themselves for all I care.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: CPA
The downfall of our younger generation is solely on the shoulders of those who championed "self-esteem".

The other factor is fear of the lawsuit.

 

[Moonbeam]

Has to be fluorinated water.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Umm, hello. Entitlement mentality? Young people have that mentality because they have to fight for themselves, and they are working harder than ever to make ends meet. The old generation went out and joined unions to get bennies, voted themselves Social Security, medicare, GI bill, etc and so on, and now they are telling us we have an entitlement mentality? This is after they stick our generation with trillions in debt, I say they can go F themselves for all I care.

Cry me a River EMO Boy!

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: senseamp
Umm, hello. Entitlement mentality? Young people have that mentality because they have to fight for themselves, and they are working harder than ever to make ends meet. The old generation went out and joined unions to get bennies, voted themselves Social Security, medicare, GI bill, etc and so on, and now they are telling us we have an entitlement mentality? This is after they stick our generation with trillions in debt, I say they can go F themselves for all I care.

Cry me a River EMO Boy!

That what I tell people b!tching about my generation's entitlement mentality. My boss gave me a raise after I took some days off because he thought I was out interviewing with other companies. I just wanted a day off That's entitlement mentality for you.

 

[Genx87]

I think this is the lady I heard on the radio the other day. It is interesting what she is saying. If this is the same lady she said we need to encourage and reward somebody trying than telling them they are smart and special. Once kids learned they were smarter than everybody else they stopped trying to learn because they always felt their way was the best.

This kinder gentler PC crap is going to bite us right in the ass very soon.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I think this is the lady I heard on the radio the other day. It is interesting what she is saying. If this is the same lady she said we need to encourage and reward somebody trying than telling them they are smart and special. Once kids learned they were smarter than everybody else they stopped trying to learn because they always felt their way was the best.

This kinder gentler PC crap is going to bite us right in the ass very soon.

The pendulum swings but the fulcrum does not move.

 

[miketheidiot]

where the hell are people getting the idea that narcisism has come from the PC stuff, if anything, those are polar opposite views.

 

[Zebo]

You missed the positive aspect

The new report follows a study released by UCLA last month which found that nearly three-quarters of the freshmen it surveyed thought it was important to be "very well-off financially."

Since the only way to be well off is providing goods and services to others, i.e. serving their needs, it stands to reason their financial goals will lead to kids serving in mass.

I'd much rather have kids like this than dope smokers who claim they don't want to be rich... travel and good times is all they need, then at 30 they move back home without a resume.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Has to be fluorinated water.

No, it is the vaccinations!

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Has to be fluorinated water.

No, it is the vaccinations!

I think moonies point was. it's just a bunch of crabby old people who can't understand the newer generation and is flipping their lid like General Ripper in Dr. Stangelove..same story different generation this time.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Zebo
You missed the positive aspect

The new report follows a study released by UCLA last month which found that nearly three-quarters of the freshmen it surveyed thought it was important to be "very well-off financially."

Since the only way to be well off is providing goods and services to others, i.e. serving their needs, it stands to reason their financial goals will lead to kids serving in mass.

I'd much rather have kids like this than dope smokers who claim they don't want to be rich... travel and good times is all they need, then at 30 they move back home without a resume.

As an aside, I know a lot of dope smokers who are productive members of society.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Zebo
You missed the positive aspect

The new report follows a study released by UCLA last month which found that nearly three-quarters of the freshmen it surveyed thought it was important to be "very well-off financially."

Since the only way to be well off is providing goods and services to others, i.e. serving their needs, it stands to reason their financial goals will lead to kids serving in mass.

I'd much rather have kids like this than dope smokers who claim they don't want to be rich... travel and good times is all they need, then at 30 they move back home without a resume.

As an aside, I know a lot of dope smokers who are productive members of society.

There's always an exception to the rule. Look at our president.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Zebo
You missed the positive aspect

The new report follows a study released by UCLA last month which found that nearly three-quarters of the freshmen it surveyed thought it was important to be "very well-off financially."

Since the only way to be well off is providing goods and services to others, i.e. serving their needs, it stands to reason their financial goals will lead to kids serving in mass.

I'd much rather have kids like this than dope smokers who claim they don't want to be rich... travel and good times is all they need, then at 30 they move back home without a resume.

As an aside, I know a lot of dope smokers who are productive members of society.

There's always an exception to the rule. Look at our president.

It's a pretty safe assumption that had he been born George Smith instead of George Bush he would be pumping gas.

Something this study doesn't seem to touch on is the rise in the number of children and their parents who are doped up on some form of prescription drug. Xanax, ritalin etc., creates mindless zombies who are completely tuned out to the world and emotionally stunted.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Zebo
You missed the positive aspect

The new report follows a study released by UCLA last month which found that nearly three-quarters of the freshmen it surveyed thought it was important to be "very well-off financially."

Since the only way to be well off is providing goods and services to others, i.e. serving their needs, it stands to reason their financial goals will lead to kids serving in mass.

I'd much rather have kids like this than dope smokers who claim they don't want to be rich... travel and good times is all they need, then at 30 they move back home without a resume.

As an aside, I know a lot of dope smokers who are productive members of society.

There's always an exception to the rule. Look at our president.

It's a pretty safe assumption that had he been born George Smith instead of George Bush he would be pumping gas.

Something this study doesn't seem to touch on is the rise in the number of children and their parents who are doped up on some form of prescription drug. Xanax, ritalin etc., creates mindless zombies who are completely tuned out to the world and emotionally stunted.

Really? Then why did the smart brother not become President. Could it be that dumb dumb is actually a political genius? Nobody overestimates him and everybody underestimates him. Notice that he's the President. If that's not genius I don't know what is.

 

[piasabird]

This whole article is full of jibberish. Why do you people have to have some Phd in Psychology tell you how to live your life?

Dr. Spock beam me up!

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Zebo
You missed the positive aspect

The new report follows a study released by UCLA last month which found that nearly three-quarters of the freshmen it surveyed thought it was important to be "very well-off financially."

Since the only way to be well off is providing goods and services to others, i.e. serving their needs, it stands to reason their financial goals will lead to kids serving in mass.

I'd much rather have kids like this than dope smokers who claim they don't want to be rich... travel and good times is all they need, then at 30 they move back home without a resume.

As an aside, I know a lot of dope smokers who are productive members of society.

There's always an exception to the rule. Look at our president.

It's a pretty safe assumption that had he been born George Smith instead of George Bush he would be pumping gas.

Something this study doesn't seem to touch on is the rise in the number of children and their parents who are doped up on some form of prescription drug. Xanax, ritalin etc., creates mindless zombies who are completely tuned out to the world and emotionally stunted.

Really? Then why did the smart brother not become President. Could it be that dumb dumb is actually a political genius? Nobody overestimates him and everybody underestimates him. Notice that he's the President. If that's not genius I don't know what is.

There are a lot of gas pumpers who are shrewd politicians no doubt, but they don't have money behind them.

 

[Arcex]

Something inside of me died as soon as you referred to George W. Bush as a political genius. Back in my day we used to beat people for blasphemy like that.

 

[Termagant]

I think the entitlement mentality is OK so long as it is backed up by an impetus for action to gain that entitlement. Many of the "I'm special" type of young people grew up in well to do environments, with Republican influence; hence they have a disdain for handouts and are willing to work for and demand what they want. If private business eventually doesn't provide it than so be it, they're hopes will be dashed. But there is not some new wave of socialistic entitlement in America as the clueless right wingers think.

For Republicans this is an improvement as in earlier generations entitlement expectations were for union jobs, pensions, social security, etc.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
where the hell are people getting the idea that narcisism has come from the PC stuff, if anything, those are polar opposite views.

That's kind of what I was wondering. I don't really think this generation is any more narcissistic than the previous one, I think it's really (yet again...) a case of crabby old folks getting all up in arms about "these kids today". The fact that THEIR parents said the exact same thing has apparently escaped them. But to the extent that the latest generation is different, I'd say that it's more "we're all special" while the previous generation was "*I'm* special and you're a stupid ******". Take a look at this thread, I don't see a lot of humility from the people like Genx and Spidey who are complaining the loudest about this. Those folks calling kids today "narcissistic" is pretty funny when you think about it.

Now we could argue all day about which viewpoint is better, but the idea that the "old school" narcissism is somehow tied to accomplishment is pretty silly. To use an example often cited, the "banning" of dodgeball in some schools because the kids who are bad at it would feel bad about themselves. The implication is that it's GOOD to derive your self-esteem from totally artificial games that emphasize talents not often useful in the real world. In other words, everyone misses the "good old days" when your self-esteem was tied to your ability to break the weak kid's glasses. It's not REALLY about your personal accomplishment so much as it is about feeling superior to someone, regardless of whether the skills that allow you to do so are of any use at all. Are we moving too far towards the PC side of things? Maybe, but considering how many people there are running around today acting like self-centered jackasses, I'm willing to give the other approach a shot.