Feds tell Web firms to turn over user account passwords

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Jeff7

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Gov: Give us user passwords
Web firm: No, see 4th amendment
Gov: We'll pay you $250 a pop and give you tax breaks
Web firm: *cha-ching*
NSA: There is more!
Web firm: *bends over*
Or if you've got a line to someone at the top of the company, there are even cheaper ways:

"Hey...personal favor sort of thing here: I need access to your servers. Some bad guys are doing something that might be big, and I need to get some passwords. You think you can arrange that for me?"

- "Yeah sure, I'll have some of my tech guys reassigned. It won't be a problem at all."

or

"We need access to some user accounts; we need a few password lists. If we have to do it the hard way, and some terrorists do something bad, your shareholders might not be pleased if anything gets leaked that your company was withholding information that could have led to their capture."

- "Yeah, sure, I'll have some of my tech guys reassigned. There won't be any problems from our end of things."
 

Patranus

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Apr 15, 2007
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Dont really see the issue.
Anything you give a company like Google and Facebook becomes their property so passwords are more or less meaningless.
 

1sikbITCH

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Jan 3, 2001
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Dont really see the issue.
Anything you give a company like Google and Facebook becomes their property so passwords are more or less meaningless.

Ease of access. Instead of seeing what you said 2 days ago the government is now watching you on your webcam.
 

blankslate

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Jun 16, 2008
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And what the fuck happened to the forth Amendment?

We as U.S. voters collectively gave fuck all about it after 9/11 because we needed to be kept safe from the muslim terrorists. Sure there were shady spying strategies before that but it really picked up steam post 9/11.
 

bradley

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Jan 9, 2000
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Dont really see the issue.
Anything you give a company like Google and Facebook becomes their property so passwords are more or less meaningless.

I haven't read Google's TOS in a while, but what language specifically gives password access to third party govt. requests.
 

DucatiMonster696

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Gov: Give us user passwords
Web firm: No, see 4th amendment
Gov: We'll pay you $250 a pop and give you tax breaks
Web firm: *cha-ching*
NSA: There is more!
Web firm: *bends over*

That's way to much work. All they have to do is threaten to sic the FCC or any other redundant regulatory government agency capable of making their life miserable and they'll buckle and break.
 

Patranus

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Apr 15, 2007
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And what the fuck happened to the forth Amendment?

How would the 4th amendment apply to this?

You are freely giving this information to a private corporation who can do whatever it wants with that information. It chooses to give that information to the government.
 

Patranus

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I haven't read Google's TOS in a while, but what language specifically gives password access to third party govt. requests.

When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones.

The government would be one of the entities Google works with and giving the government access to information falls within the bounds of operating the company.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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This is why I generally use a password of:

Ify0uc4nreadthisIdidyourmomlastnight
 

BoberFett

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It's a good thing we had all of those Hope and Change types sucking Obama's cock at election time, otherwise the country might have gone downhill.