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13Gigatons

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I received an item for overseas via FedEx in 3 days no problems but their ground service is a disaster.
 

Meghan54

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Saw this and it reminded me of this thread

/Fedex is not unionized, lots of disgruntled employees doing bare minimum

From what I understand, it's much worse. Fedex uses a fuckton of what they term "contractors" for delivery drivers. This means the driver is in a Fedex uniform, drives a Fedex truck, but is an "independent contractor" and is only responsible for delivering however many packages he/she feels like. They're paid per package delivered, so when he/she feels like they've done enough, fuck the rest. Back they go and they'll have some bullshit exception. These "contractors" used to be only found in rural areas, but their use has expanded dramatically over years.

UPS's drivers, on the other hand, are fully vested employees and deliver until their respective truck is empty.

The difference in philosophy shows......
 
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nakedfrog

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From what I understand, it's much worse. Fedex uses a fuckton of what they term "contractors" for delivery drivers. This means the driver is in a Fedex uniform, drives a Fedex truck, but is an "independent contractor" and is only responsible for delivering however many packages he/she feels like. They're paid per package delivered, so when he/she feels like they've done enough, fuck the rest. Back they go and they'll have some bullshit exception. These "contractors" used to be only found in rural areas, but their use has expanded dramatically over years.

UPS's drivers, on the other hand, are fully vested employees and deliver until their respective truck is empty.

The difference in philosophy shows......
Especially in December, I've seen UPS trucks out past 8PM...
 

Meghan54

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Oh, and I'm waiting for a UPS/USPS package that was originally shipped via UPS on Nov. 16 from IL. It got to ATL........and then......

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An inquiry was started last week. It was closed 3 days after opening.....the resolution that closed it? "We'll go look for it."

I reopened it yesterday. They're not happy with me. Seems I should just shut up and go dispute the charge and fix it that way.
 

BoomerD

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I was behind a fedex van this morning and one of the doors flew open when he took off at the light, was trying to get his attention somehow but he eventually noticed it after 10 minutes or so, maybe your package is on the side of the road somewhere.

That could be. Mine is now saying "Delayed."
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esquared

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Ha ha , I have a package now saying it's delayed in China where FedEx just picked it up.

Called an "operational delay at the FedEx facility"
 

Captante

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From what I understand, it's much worse. Fedex uses a fuckton of what they term "contractors" for delivery drivers. This means the driver is in a Fedex uniform, drives a Fedex truck, but is an "independent contractor" and is only responsible for delivering however many packages he/she feels like. They're paid per package delivered, so when he/she feels like they've done enough, fuck the rest. Back they go and they'll have some bullshit exception. These "contractors" used to be only found in rural areas, but their use has expanded dramatically over years.

UPS's drivers, on the other hand, are fully vested employees and deliver until their respective truck is empty.

The difference in philosophy shows......


This all started when Fedex bought out Roadway Package Systems (RPS) which was all sub-contractors and renamed it Fedex ground.

What's changed for the worse is that they USED to be separate entities but now your $29 overnight delivery can easily end up with a ground driver in all but name who isn't a proper employee at all and doesn't care.
 

esquared

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This all started when Fedex bought out Roadway Package Systems (RPS) which was all sub-contractors and renamed it Fedex ground.
That was back in 1998 and RPS was officially labeled FedEx Ground in Jan 2020. That almost 22 years back.
Fedex Ground for me was fine until 2010-2012. I used to sell some things on eBay back then and FedEx Ground was cheaper than UPS and even the post office for cross country packages.
I know they seem to be crap now but up until 8-10 years back, for me they were fine. Never had one issue with them.
 
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Captante

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That was back in 1998 and RPS was officially labeled FedEx Ground in Jan 2020. That almost 22 years back.
Fedex Ground for me was fine until 2010-2012. I used to sell some things on eBay back then and FedEx Ground was cheaper than UPS and even the post office for cross country packages.
I know they seem to be crap now but up until 8-10 years back, for me they were fine. Never had one issue with them.


YMMV? I've heard from more than one person that Fedex Ground was good for them and I think it had to do with how well run your local dispatch center was.... ours was piss-poor.

I was doing internet sales at the time in Connecticut and when the owner tried switching to FG it was a disaster. We were back with UPS inside of three months.
 

IronWing

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I’m waiting on a glass filter from China. It’s pretty ridiculous; the filter glass is made in the US by a Japanese company and sent to China to be cut into circles and sent back.
 

sdifox

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I’m waiting on a glass filter from China. It’s pretty ridiculous; the filter glass is made in the US by a Japanese company and sent to China to be cut into circles and sent back.
Americans can't draw a circle? :awe:
 
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BoomerD

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So...when my generator didn't show up on Monday, I called FedEx. Spoke to some "do the needful" kind of agent. He said my package SHOULD be delivered on Wednesday. Since my package was scheduled for delivery on Monday, I made plans for Wednesday the 8th. He offered to have the package delivered to a FedEx drop-off spot for me...the local Safeway grocery store.
I told him, "No! DO NOT do that." He said, OK.A couple hours later, I get a text from FedEx telling me my package would be delivered to the Safeway on Wednesday. :facepalm:
I called back on Tuesday, spoke to a rep who said he was in the Caribbean. When I explained everything, he said, " No problem, I'll get it rerouted to your home address." Package didn't arrive...still showed "delayed, no delivery date available."
This morning, I get a call from the Safeway. FedEx is trying to deliver the generator, but because of the size and weight, they can't accept it...they put the FedEx driver on the phone, he and I arranged to meet so I could get the damned thing. This has been a fckn nightmare.
(but I DID get my generator.)
 
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DaaQ

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From what I understand, it's much worse. Fedex uses a fuckton of what they term "contractors" for delivery drivers. This means the driver is in a Fedex uniform, drives a Fedex truck, but is an "independent contractor" and is only responsible for delivering however many packages he/she feels like. They're paid per package delivered, so when he/she feels like they've done enough, fuck the rest. Back they go and they'll have some bullshit exception. These "contractors" used to be only found in rural areas, but their use has expanded dramatically over years.

UPS's drivers, on the other hand, are fully vested employees and deliver until their respective truck is empty.

The difference in philosophy shows......
Can't say this is true or not, but I have seen UPS drivers running out of their pick up trucks with bed covers on recently, they WERE in a ups uniform though.

Edit: what I mean is maybe they don't have enough trucks?
 

VirtualLarry

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Can't say this is true or not, but I have seen UPS drivers running out of their pick up trucks with bed covers on recently, they WERE in a ups uniform though.

Edit: what I mean is maybe they don't have enough trucks?
I've seen them, uniformed, driving U-hauls.
 

BoomerD

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Uhauls are pretty common, especially during the high volume season.
 

Captante

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Today I saw a guy in my neighborhood making Amazon deliveries in a white Hertz rental van.
 

IronWing

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Today I saw a guy in my neighborhood making Amazon deliveries in a white Hertz rental van.
:eek:

 
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snoopy7548

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Last night driving home from work, I saw a UPS worker delivering packages from a Nissan Versa. Weird stuff is going on...
 

dlerious

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A guy on a car forum I visit regularly said fedex left a rifle outside his house without bothering having him sign for it. I’ve had them just leave wine without having me sign for it as well despite the clear warnings on the package that it’s alcohol and needs a signature.
The last couple I received over the last year, they just handed me. I asked about the signature and they said not needed, they enter it as something covid related.
 

BoomerD

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oh look...a spammer!

edit... and just like that, he was gone.
 
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The last couple I received over the last year, they just handed me. I asked about the signature and they said not needed, they enter it as something covid related.
I had a $350 package come a couple of weeks ago, UPS, Signature Required. I waited around all day for the twerp, finally showed just after 6PM. Said no signature due to the bug, just had to see a person to accept the package.