Federal Judge Upholds NYC Policy Barring Unvaccinated Students During Illnesses

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BurnItDwn

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I think we should simply have the children immunized for their own good. Doesn't matter what the parents say, they do not have the right to kill their own children or put them at that high of risk.

It's sort of like wearing seat belts. Every parent should always properly secure their child into the seats with seat bealts, booster, or infant seat. If they don't, then we don't just let the kid die and say "ohh well it was the parents right", we say, Hey you dumfuck asshole, you gotta secure your kids seat so that they are less likely to be killed when your dumb ass crashes the car.

Same thing with immunizations.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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Those children are being denied equal access because of a life choice their parents made. This is nothing more than institutional discrimination.

Your right to throw a punch ends at my nose. The kids right to be un-vaccinated ends at them being put in a community supported communal space with other kids.
 

Daverino

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I am not anti-vaccine.

Yeah. . . you are. . .


The only reason why you call me a troll is because you can not handle the truth. You can not handle that someone who is pro-vaccine would dare utter a word against vaccines. People who debate civil liberties versus mandatory vaccines "must" be anti-vaccine.

You are mad because I do not fit your pigeon hole assumptions.

I'm not mad. You wasted all of 30 seconds or so before posting more anti-vax responses in this forum after getting done replying to me that you aren't. I need not do anything. You shoot your own feet with frightening regularity.

Saying you are pro-vaccination and then immediately contradicting yourself, followed by a 'teach the controversy' attempt to explain how vaccination and personal liberty are at odds just further reinforces the conclusions most people have made about your true agenda.
 

cyclohexane

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You are being obtuse.




Isn't the spread of disease what this thread is about?

Someone does not get the flu vaccine, infects someone who is immune compromised, that person dies, should the vector for disease be punished?

Seems comparable to drinking and driving.

I'm an immunologist, and I have never heard vaccines compared to drinking and driving. Smh
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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I'm an immunologist, and I have never heard vaccines compared to drinking and driving. Smh

It is not vaccines that are being compared to drinking and driving, it is the civil liberties that state that you have the right to choose what goes in your body, but that choice might limit what you can do that is being compared. In that manner vaccinations are drinking are similar.

If you want to drink, fine, don't drive.
If you want to not be vaccinated, fine, don't go to public schools.

Both create a hazard to the public health. So, both limit you.
It is a fair comparison.
 
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Now it's been upheld by the Court of Appeals of the 2nd Circuit. If you don't want to vaccinate your kids, your kids should be barred from school if someone else comes down with a vaccine-preventable illness. We don't need to create pockets of disease-carrying groups to spread it to more vulnerable people.

http://nyti.ms/1yD1GDc

New York State’s requirement that children be vaccinated before attending public school does not violate their constitutional rights, a federal appeals court in Manhattan said on Wednesday.

In affirming the requirement’s constitutionality, a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit also upheld a previous ruling by a federal judge that students exempted from the requirement for religious reasons can be barred from school when another child has a disease preventable by a vaccine.
 

thraashman

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Honestly, people who don't vaccinate their kids are scum to me. You're virtually a murderer if some kid gets sick and dies because of your actions. And the nitwit motherfuckers that still claim an Autism link truly piss me off.