Federal judge orders jail for those praying at texas graduation ceremony

[Atreus21]

You don't win the larger debate because you say that you must live your life based on a book that you must simply have "faith" that it is (or was inspired) by the word of an unproven being that by definition defies everything we know.

You can prove that sex can lead to pregnancy so you win that argument.

Again, by very definition, you can not even begin to prove that God does or has ever existed and in fact everything we know so far about the universe says it is impossible for him to exist. Any argument that you can make will hold as much water as any bullshit that I can come up with in a few minutes about some fake deity.

See the difference?

Again, by very definition, your belief requires faith which literally means that you believe in something which has absolutely no proof. You simply can not have an actual "winnable" debate about that because it requires some sort of proof to "win".

My argument against abortion is entirely secular.