Fear the Walking Dead - Official discussion thread

[gururu2]

Loving the show, wish I could binge it though as its so slow... Like the walking dead too many commercials.

This show is different enough that it really spells out how difficult it would be to survive. I used to think that if this happened I would go and stock up on guns and supplies. Not so if the cities go anarchic. I really think most people would be left weaponless in this situation.

Army/National Guard coming in to secure safe zones makes sense. Particularly isolated units backing down from larger uncontrolled confrontations. Not sure I track with the notion of government cover-up based on some research gone bad. I'd like to lean on a supernatural phenomenon. FFS there is no physical law that could enable a XXX lb body to stand up with little to no musculature. The government is as helpless against this menace as its citizens.

I'd like to see what science learns about it before we hit the walking dead level of apocalypse. We know the CDC goes down, but they must've learned some things before that. Something similar to what went down in World War Z, only without the winning.

 

[clamum]

I was really excited for Fear the Walking Dead but I'm not too enthused about it each week. I intend to keep watching it, but I find it kind of boring and hard to stay focused on the episode when it airs. I do like the Dad as a character and actor (Cliff Curtis) and actually find the addict kid interesting. Chris Manawa, on the other hand, fuckin blows. Coral 2.0 in my book.

 

[destrekor]

I don't think it's a cover up. They're just taking away the threats to the safe zone.

I think they know that when people die, they come back. If you have very sick people without medicine and they die in your safe zone, it could quickly become overridden with zombies.

I guess the fear with the addict is that since the Dr. could tell he hadn't kicked the habit, he is still at risk of ODing and becoming addicted to flesh.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

I think they know that when people die, they come back. If you have very sick people without medicine and they die in your safe zone, it could quickly become overridden with zombies.

I guess the fear with the addict is that since the Dr. could tell he hadn't kicked the habit, he is still at risk of ODing and becoming addicted to flesh.

Yup that's what I meant. Threats as in zombies when they kick the bucket.

Everyone really wants to see some sort of answer to how/why people are becoming zombies but I don't think that will ever be told.

 

[Charmonium]

I was really excited for Fear the Walking Dead but I'm not too enthused about it each week. I intend to keep watching it, but I find it kind of boring and hard to stay focused on the episode when it airs. I do like the Dad as a character and actor (Cliff Curtis) and actually find the addict kid interesting. Chris Manawa, on the other hand, fuckin blows. Carl 2.0 in my book.

Same here. I'll force myself to pay attention when it's TWD on but for this show, it's strictly background watching. They haven't given me any reason to pay closer attention.

 

[PokerGuy]

Shows like TWD are interesting because of the concept and because they create interesting characters and then put them in dangerous situations. You are actively engaged to see what happens to them etc.

In this show, I don't care about the characters at all, in fact I wouldn't mind seeing all the "main" characters get chomped and done away with. It's just background watching until the real TWD is back, FTWD is just awful at this point IMO....

 

[Childs]

Episode 3 that got me on board for the series. I thought that was the real beginning, and it was going to ramp up from there. But then episode 4 got me into I dont care mode. I'm not quite sure what it is. The storyline with the person in the house doing the signals and the mother exploring was interesting. The doctor was only interesting when she did her heel turn. The father is just dumb. I guess I dont care about the characters when there is no progression. Aside from the drug addict, they just aren't interesting.

I think FTWD and TWD have moved out of must watch territory. If I get to it when the season is over fine, if not no big deal. The individual episodes aren't all that interesting, but maybe stringing a couple of them together at a time will make them more watchable.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Episode 3 that got me on board for the series. I thought that was the real beginning, and it was going to ramp up from there. But then episode 4 got me into I dont care mode. I'm not quite sure what it is. The storyline with the person in the house doing the signals and the mother exploring was interesting. The doctor was only interesting when she did her heel turn. The father is just dumb. I guess I dont care about the characters when there is no progression. Aside from the drug addict, they just aren't interesting.

I think FTWD and TWD have moved out of must watch territory. If I get to it when the season is over fine, if not no big deal. The individual episodes aren't all that interesting, but maybe stringing a couple of them together at a time will make them more watchable.

Yea episode 3 was awesome then 4 just slowed everything down again. Can't really do that when your season is only 6 episodes..

 

[Jaskalas]

After episode 4, I'm rooting for Daniel Salazar. Throw the drug addict to the zombies.

 

[OverVolt]

Nothing happened last episode. Nothing.

 

[Charmonium]

After episode 4, I'm rooting for Daniel Salazar. Throw the drug addict to the zombies.

Oh come on. Junkies do the darnest things.

 

[destrekor]

After episode 4, I'm rooting for Daniel Salazar. Throw the drug addict to the zombies.

I like the addict because he is one of the only ones who really gets what's going on.

But I definitely can't wait to see Salazar become more of the central badass character that he obviously will become.

 

[CU]

also another statistic from usa
50% of army personal in the nuclear ballistic missile would not launch even if the country was under attack with nuclear missiles from russia

Can you back this up? My brother was in charge of "turning the key" in Minot ND. I need to ask him about this.

and if you are sure it the only way
then you call an air strike and you level the city from existence
and you throw napalms see the problem is biological

They did drop napalm on Atlanta and probably more cities. They may show dropping napalm in FTWD before the series ends. With cities falling so quickly I would think the chain of command would be falling apart. So, what one unit does may not be inline with what another unit does.

For anyone who wants to see the USA military in good light. Watch The Last Ship.

 

[ALIVE]

Can you back this up? My brother was in charge of "turning the key" in Minot ND. I need to ask him about this.



They did drop napalm on Atlanta and probably more cities. They may show dropping napalm in FTWD before the series ends. With cities falling so quickly I would think the chain of command would be falling apart. So, what one unit does may not be inline with what another unit does.

For anyone who wants to see the USA military in good light. Watch The Last Ship.

first of all collapse of cities and collapse of army it 2 different things
civilian live in the cities when army is not
army is in an army base on deployed in the field

city and army in not coming together
ww2 england had how many citied leveled?
that means that england was getting weaker and weaker as the cities was erased from the maps?

the civilian population suffered more and more
while the english army was getting into a better and better shape

army is all about warehouse and production of ammunition and food
that will make the army to disappear

i do not know what you do in usa but there is something called strategic reserves the amount of it is different in each country
which basically means stockpiling things essential for the military machine to work
which expands to rare medals being stockpiled so the industry can operate for a time if the cause for the war cause the imports to stop

also in Germany the industry after the initial success of the bombing re arranged the network and increased their production levels you were bombing day and night and the wounded Germany keep every month increasing the production of weapons and i mean airplane production tank production you name it
something i imagine we will not see again happening

dont take what i say out of context
its obvious that the army stormed in the city to secure a perimeter in the outer limits of the city and cutting the city away from the rest of the country

while doing nothing to enter in the city trying to get as more civilians as possible out which would make sense because it will make the number of infected less

i am not against using napalms or nuclear bombs to help against a bio hazard
the only question i raise is why not used sooner?
if by your actions choose to let a city die then level and city and get over with it

it seems that while the life of people is worthless and let to be dead
the value of the buildings is all that matters

the army is there to save the infrastructure of the city not the populations
which is utterly stupid because even if you get the city intact which people will inherit the city???

bring homeless from the country and say here is a house for you?

so so far
the government completely does nto care for the people thus enabling a plan to kill them all or let be killed


also life without electricity is impossible nowadays because all our appliances spin around it
so they do not have fridge
meaning that now people in the city must start having food problems and starvation which would lead them to try to go out of the city
which is not the case so far
and i talk about normal people not zombies
where is the hunger people or the thirsty people trying to get out of the city to find food and water?

but to keep it in the reply
it is an outrage that the army does nothing to save as many people as it can
but instead enter inside the perimeter and kills anything moving
the man shoot in the road with a gun in his hand did not looked infected

enjoy your propaganda machine
at least if a bio hazard will strike
you know
you real issue of survival will be your army
shooting you
enjoyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy the show
and the messages it passes

 

[OverVolt]

I don't think the army is really in communication with HQ in the show. They are heavily foreshadowing that.

 

[ALIVE]

I don't think the army is really in communication with HQ in the show. They are heavily foreshadowing that.

wrong there is a flow of water in food in daily basis
so there is still a chain not broken

and also what it matters was the orders they got how to deploy
if they loose connection to hq later that is another thing
and another thing is how they were deployed in the first place

no connection with hq will lead in panic from the soldiers
and abandoning their position
but so far food is coming in daily basis so communications are good to go

 

[CU]

first of all collapse of cities and collapse of army it 2 different things
civilian live in the cities when army is not
army is in an army base on deployed in the field

But, it is biological "attack" on everyone not bombs hitting certain targets. Everyone has it, so all the cities and bases would be effected and start to fall around the same time. Also all military personal do not leave on base. I don't know the ratio of on an off, but a lot live off base in the cites they are near. Military bases may stand a better chance due to having weapons and trained soldiers, but they are also at higher risk due to going out in it to try and regain order. Not to mention civilians going there to look for support. And even the Army can be over run. Take the scene when Rick and them get to the CDC. They had weapons of all sorts guarding the CDC, but still lost. As for the chain of command, we also don't know how Washington fared. For all we know the president and most of the house and senate are already dead. Power also seems to be a problem now, so communications should be a problem which can lead to a break down in the chain of command.

enjoy your propaganda machine
at least if a bio hazard will strike
you know
you real issue of survival will be your army
shooting you
enjoyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy the show
and the messages it passes

So, you think FTWD is propaganda? So, is The Last Ship also propaganda? If so it seems Hollywood is sending out mixed signals. Call me crazy, but I am going to say they are just harmless entertainment.

 

[ALIVE]

But, it is biological "attack" on everyone not bombs hitting certain targets. Everyone has it, so all the cities and bases would be effected and start to fall around the same time. Also all military personal do not leave on base. I don't know the ratio of on an off, but a lot live off base in the cites they are near. Military bases may stand a better chance due to having weapons and trained soldiers, but they are also at higher risk due to going out in it to try and regain order. Not to mention civilians going there to look for support. And even the Army can be over run. Take the scene when Rick and them get to the CDC. They had weapons of all sorts guarding the CDC, but still lost. As for the chain of command, we also don't know how Washington fared. For all we know the president and most of the house and senate are already dead. Power also seems to be a problem now, so communications should be a problem which can lead to a break down in the chain of command.

in case of crisis
all military personal is called back in the bases for active unit
if you follow the nato that will mean personal must be able to return in base 2hours after they are called in.
also in greece military personal for that reason can not have house very far from the base , for the option of fast reporting for duty

you know army do not count on the grid for power but in generators???
army will be the last with electricity in a country if it starts collapsing

power cut down can be many things
1. the power plants were attacked and now they are not operating
2. the choose to cut down the power to minimize destruction in the city

a city in crisis that have people dying electricity can cause lots of fires
and thus making situation worse
cutting the power and the gas supply means
you realize an area is in problem and you remove a risk factor

you cook food zombies attack you
you die next thing fire
so closing down power makes sense to protect the city and the people inside
while they try to control the situation

so far
we see army appearing
and saying it is blood transmitted well a more accurate would have been body fluids
because when you are bitten you do not get blood from a zombie

lol you want a small unit to talk to the president?????

this unit comes from a base
so if any communication will be to that base the unit originates
or where ever the base is relocated

while you have normal bases in peace times
in case of emergency the plan is fully evacuation and going in another area of deployment maybe not applied in usa but it is in other nato countries
with regular exercises doing exactly that

never the less
they will try to make contact with their unit in command
the communication is going chain chain to the president
you are allowed to communicate to a superior you know
if for 1 reason you can not find them
then you try next in line which is a superior
and then a superior


the formation is so small even if they wanted to call the president i do not know if they actually know how to call him

so so far we see communication to the base this unit reports to work fine
daily transfer of food and water

all the disease have a patient zero
and they grow from there


to have at same time multiple starting points that can be contributed to an outside factor
bio - war

so they will have to make a story of what was the cause of the infection
in the original it was a comet and the dust enter earth was contaminated

but again the army did not deploy in the city by itself
an order was issued
and the order left practically all in city to die

 

[OverVolt]

Right anyway the power plant is probably only running at a minimum capacity hence rotating brownouts. Maybe they are low on fuel, staff, maybe it was damaged, whatever. Its impressive that they have power at all, IMO.

I'd be interested in if they can get info on how other cities are doing. Would be really cool if they got a sitrep from the east coast.

 

[ALIVE]

Right anyway the power plant is probably only running at a minimum capacity hence rotating brownouts. Maybe they are low on fuel, staff, maybe it was damaged, whatever. Its impressive that they have power at all, IMO.

I'd be interested in if they can get info on how other cities are doing. Would be really cool if they got a sitrep from the east coast.

how the army works
only the high command
or joined of staff

has the ability to contact any formation in the army
navy airforce

even a big formation in east and a big formation in west do not know each other to talk unless for any tactical other reason they have communication
in a more regular base

your communications abilities are limited

with the satellites in orbit that will still make the communication being possible
for formation across long distances

if a formation loose contact it tries to reopen contact
if it fails
then the commander needs to decide
his last received orders
the situation in hand

and balance between that there is help coming or not

that will make him to take a decision for the shake of his formation

meaning moving it to a more secure unexposed locations

when they loose contact they will withdraw from the city because it is a highly hostile area
going back in the know warehouses to resupply
and going to a deploy area to dig in and wait
if there are no plans already made for deploy area the commander will choose one

noone in his right mind will stay in the front line if losses contact

retreatttttttttttttt
lol

 

[CU]

so they will have to make a story of what was the cause of the infection
in the original it was a comet and the dust enter earth was contaminated

When did the TWD / comics say it was caused by a comet? I don't think have or ever plan to reveal the source.

 

[ALIVE]

When did the TWD / comics say it was caused by a comet? I don't think have or ever plan to reveal the source.

lol
the classic first zombie moovie

 

[her209]

What happened to the fat high school kid? He just disappeared.

 

[kt]

4 episodes in and so far all I want to do is punch every single character in the neck. Except the barber and the high school kid with the knife.

 

[Triumph]

Just got caught up with episode 4. This show is awful. There's no reason to watch it. Nothing interesting happens. There's no story here that adds anything to the canon. There's no interesting characters. There weren't even any ZOMBIES in episode 4. I'm going to keep recording in case it gets good, then I'll get caught up. As of right now, I see no reason to continue watching.