FDA banning natural treatment used safely for 100+ years

[Gonad the Barbarian]

http://www.healthfreedom.net/i...ntent&task=view&id=878

FDA Attacks Natural Thyroid Millions Depend On

We have learned that Time-Cap Labs, producer of a generic version of the brand name drug Armour, a natural and bioidentical thyroid replacement, has been ordered by the FDA to stop production. The FDA has decided to classify the company?s product, available for over a century, as an unapproved new drug. Since the new drug approval process is prohibitively expensive for a non-patentable substance, the FDA is in effect banning the natural product. The purpose? Presumably to protect the profits of other, inferior drugs that have been FDA approved.

According to statistics by the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists and other medical organizations, approximately twenty-seven million Americans have a thyroid disorder. Thyroid consumer advocate Mary Shomon projects that 2 million of these patients take either Armour Thyroid or a generic equivalent.

Armour and other "whole" natural thyroid preparations (including Westhroid and Nathroid as well as Time-Cap Lab?s Thyroid) are bio-identical, complete hormone preparations, containing "T4" "T3" "T2" and "T1" in the same proportions made by the human thyroid.

The FDA approved preparations Synthroid (T4), Cytomel (T3), and Levethyroxine (T4) include bio-identical molecules, but are not complete or totally bio-identical as they do not contain "T2" or "T1". It?s no wonder so many people feel much better with the balanced natural products that have been available for generations.

As famed physician Dr. Jonathan Wright observes: ?Natural thyroid has never killed or severely harmed anyone since its first use in the 1890s, prior to the FDA itself. It is a mainstay not only in the treatment of hypothyroidism but also in ?healthy aging? therapy. That the FDA should even be thinking of requiring a new drug approval for a safe, 100 plus year old natural treatment is outrageous.?

We will report further as soon as we confirm more of the facts, and as always, we?ll let you know how you can get involved.

Another article with more info here:
http://thyroid.about.com/b/200...mour-nature-throid.htm

The FDA really just needs to go away. They clearly haven't had the people's interests at heart for years and do more harm to the nation's health than good.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
http://www.healthfreedom.net/i...ntent&task=view&id=878

FDA Attacks Natural Thyroid Millions Depend On

We have learned that Time-Cap Labs, producer of a generic version of the brand name drug Armour, a natural and bioidentical thyroid replacement, has been ordered by the FDA to stop production. The FDA has decided to classify the company?s product, available for over a century, as an unapproved new drug. Since the new drug approval process is prohibitively expensive for a non-patentable substance, the FDA is in effect banning the natural product. The purpose? Presumably to protect the profits of other, inferior drugs that have been FDA approved.

According to statistics by the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists and other medical organizations, approximately twenty-seven million Americans have a thyroid disorder. Thyroid consumer advocate Mary Shomon projects that 2 million of these patients take either Armour Thyroid or a generic equivalent.

Armour and other "whole" natural thyroid preparations (including Westhroid and Nathroid as well as Time-Cap Lab?s Thyroid) are bio-identical, complete hormone preparations, containing "T4" "T3" "T2" and "T1" in the same proportions made by the human thyroid.

The FDA approved preparations Synthroid (T4), Cytomel (T3), and Levethyroxine (T4) include bio-identical molecules, but are not complete or totally bio-identical as they do not contain "T2" or "T1". It?s no wonder so many people feel much better with the balanced natural products that have been available for generations.

As famed physician Dr. Jonathan Wright observes: ?Natural thyroid has never killed or severely harmed anyone since its first use in the 1890s, prior to the FDA itself. It is a mainstay not only in the treatment of hypothyroidism but also in ?healthy aging? therapy. That the FDA should even be thinking of requiring a new drug approval for a safe, 100 plus year old natural treatment is outrageous.?

We will report further as soon as we confirm more of the facts, and as always, we?ll let you know how you can get involved.

Another article with more info here:
http://thyroid.about.com/b/200...mour-nature-throid.htm

The FDA really just needs to go away. They clearly haven't had the people's interests at heart for years and do more harm to the nation's health than good.

The FDA is run by former pharmaceutical company's CEO's, all of who have huge amounts of stock in their former employer. It is kinda like Dick Cheney, a former CEO of Halliburton, choosing who got construction contracts in Iraq... oh wait.

 

[MovingTarget]

/facepalm

I won't go as far to say that the FDA needs to just "go away", but it is in serious need of reform. Its neutrality has been compromised in favor of the large pharma companies. This, if true, only confirms that case.

 

[sandorski]

Probably just caught up in recent regulations meant for Herbal or other medically related things. Just go through the Approval Process, try to get an Exception while going through Approval, and be done with it.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Probably just caught up in recent regulations meant for Herbal or other medically related things. Just go through the Approval Process, try to get an Exception while going through Approval, and be done with it.

Come on, you know that's not possible. What a waste of words.

 

[Craig234]

Assuming for the sake of argument the FDA has been co-opted by the industries it regulates, the knee-jerk reaction to get rid of it makes the debate between two choices:

Out of control industries with bad regulation

Out of control industries with no regulation

The FDA was created for a good reason. The better solution than either of the above is to to have good regulation, and that's more possible with fixing the agency than destroying it.

Concentrating on the flaws of the regulatory agency that are there because the industries are too politicall powerful, doesn't deal with the issue of the industries' power.

I don't know if this OP issue is legitimate or not - this is just a more general comment.

As a possible solution for this issue - perhaps the government should do more to test non-patentable drugs for the public interest.

 

[spittledip]

What absolute bull. Has anyone ever sued the FDA for passing a drug that was dangerous? Maybe if people did that, we might see better decisions made. Maybe someone needs to sue them for stopping the production of a cheap safe alternative drug. It is amazing the crap they pass through... and the good stuff they block.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Assuming for the sake of argument the FDA has been co-opted by the industries it regulates, the knee-jerk reaction to get rid of it makes the debate between two choices:

Out of control industries with bad regulation

Out of control industries with no regulation

The FDA was created for a good reason. The better solution than either of the above is to to have good regulation, and that's more possible with fixing the agency than destroying it.

Concentrating on the flaws of the regulatory agency that are there because the industries are too politicall powerful, doesn't deal with the issue of the industries' power.

I don't know if this OP issue is legitimate or not - this is just a more general comment.

As a possible solution for this issue - perhaps the government should do more to test non-patentable drugs for the public interest.

Perhaps you'd feel better about it if the sentiment was worded differently. Such as, we should fix the agency by destroying the people currently in it. Seeing as fixing it seems to be both the goal of yourself and the person you responded to.

For the sake of argument, you could have simply assumed that.

 

[Phokus]

IIRC, congress broke the FDA by allowing Pharma companies to basically fund the FDA creating a huge conflict of interest.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
http://www.healthfreedom.net/i...ntent&task=view&id=878

FDA Attacks Natural Thyroid Millions Depend On

We have learned that Time-Cap Labs, producer of a generic version of the brand name drug Armour, a natural and bioidentical thyroid replacement, has been ordered by the FDA to stop production. The FDA has decided to classify the company?s product, available for over a century, as an unapproved new drug. Since the new drug approval process is prohibitively expensive for a non-patentable substance, the FDA is in effect banning the natural product. The purpose? Presumably to protect the profits of other, inferior drugs that have been FDA approved.

According to statistics by the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists and other medical organizations, approximately twenty-seven million Americans have a thyroid disorder. Thyroid consumer advocate Mary Shomon projects that 2 million of these patients take either Armour Thyroid or a generic equivalent.

Armour and other "whole" natural thyroid preparations (including Westhroid and Nathroid as well as Time-Cap Lab?s Thyroid) are bio-identical, complete hormone preparations, containing "T4" "T3" "T2" and "T1" in the same proportions made by the human thyroid.

The FDA approved preparations Synthroid (T4), Cytomel (T3), and Levethyroxine (T4) include bio-identical molecules, but are not complete or totally bio-identical as they do not contain "T2" or "T1". It?s no wonder so many people feel much better with the balanced natural products that have been available for generations.

As famed physician Dr. Jonathan Wright observes: ?Natural thyroid has never killed or severely harmed anyone since its first use in the 1890s, prior to the FDA itself. It is a mainstay not only in the treatment of hypothyroidism but also in ?healthy aging? therapy. That the FDA should even be thinking of requiring a new drug approval for a safe, 100 plus year old natural treatment is outrageous.?

We will report further as soon as we confirm more of the facts, and as always, we?ll let you know how you can get involved.

Another article with more info here:
http://thyroid.about.com/b/200...mour-nature-throid.htm

The FDA really just needs to go away. They clearly haven't had the people's interests at heart for years and do more harm to the nation's health than good.

Well the FDA guidelines are ridiculous from what i understand.

As long as it's prescription only (trust me, you don't want to mess with your thyroid even if you need to lose weight or "stay young". It'll shut down your own production in less than a week, especially the versions that are not just T3) and adheres to the standards of any prescription medication it should be fine.

It will probably be fine too.

 

[Double Trouble]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Assuming for the sake of argument the FDA has been co-opted by the industries it regulates, the knee-jerk reaction to get rid of it makes the debate between two choices:

Out of control industries with bad regulation

Out of control industries with no regulation

The FDA was created for a good reason. The better solution than either of the above is to to have good regulation, and that's more possible with fixing the agency than destroying it.

Concentrating on the flaws of the regulatory agency that are there because the industries are too politicall powerful, doesn't deal with the issue of the industries' power.

I don't know if this OP issue is legitimate or not - this is just a more general comment.

As a possible solution for this issue - perhaps the government should do more to test non-patentable drugs for the public interest.

:thumbsup:

Also, I don't know what the real story is around this drug, I'm sure we're only seeing one particular point of view......

 

[bamacre]

http://www.npr.org/templates/s...ry.php?storyId=5356029

This to me is proof enough that the FDA is more interested in big profits for big pharma than being on the side of the consumer.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI....scientists/index.html

Has Obama replied?

 

[Siddhartha]

In 1976, US banned the use of Sassafras root in food because of its carcinogenic properties. Sassafras root had been used in production of Root Beer and Birch Beer for years before 1976. For me Root Beer has not tasted the same.

Personally, I would rather the FDA do its job the try to make the food and drugs we use as safe as possible.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: bamacre
http://www.npr.org/templates/s...ry.php?storyId=5356029

This to me is proof enough that the FDA is more interested in big profits for big pharma than being on the side of the consumer.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI....scientists/index.html

Has Obama replied?

Why should Obama reply? This is all Bush and the Republican's fault.

 

[LegendKiller]

My wife takes Synthroid at very high doses, often times you don't need T1 or T2, as other organs in your body produce it naturally. She has no thyroid at all (whole thing was surgically removed due to aggressive malignant cancer, then the remainder killed with irradiated iodine), and her T1/T2 levels are within normal bounds.

This is a non-event.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
In 1976, US banned the use of Sassafras root in food because of its carcinogenic properties. Sassafras root had been used in production of Root Beer and Birch Beer for years before 1976. For me Root Beer has not tasted the same.

Personally, I would rather the FDA do its job the try to make the food and drugs we use as safe as possible.

I can't tell what you're trying to say. There's an error in your last sentence. It appears you're most likely condeming it for banning a delicious cancer-causing ingredient?

I like root beer as much as anyone, and in particular enjoy finding 'old fashioned' great tasting root beers. I've travelled far for root beer; when in Salt Lake city, the first place I've gone when I can eat at just one spot has been the only place I know in the US that serves Hires root beer on tap, because I've checked for Hires and hard to find root beers on store shelves from coast to coast. I've made a point to have 'Sioux City Root Beer' in Sioux City, where the server looks a bit funny at me when I mention it. I have dozens of varieties of root beer collected, people buy unusual root beer for me as a gift. I drive several miles to get some draft A&W made with cane sugar instead of corn syrup. I've bought entire (mini) kegs of brewed Virgil's Root beer. I've gone out of my way to look for 'Sassafras' Root Beers - your post is the first I heard of the problem. I think I'd be as against banning Sassafras for no good reason as much as probably anyone. But I'm in favor of their banning something if it's unhealthy.

Can you correct your post, are you wanting an unsafe product?

(If anyone's wondering about opinions - for a 'gourmet' root beer experience, try Virgil's, make sure it's cold; for 'mainstream', A&W preferably w/sugar.)

 

[cwjerome]

This situation is a microcosm of the cozy relationship between business and government. The more government gets involves in economic matters the more lawyers and lobbyists are sent to Washington. Eventually, the powerful create policy de facto style. Big companies like all the regs and fees because they have the ability to deal with it all while shielding them from competition.

A lot of people rail against unbriddled capitalism, yet most of the time their gripes have a lot more to do with the government sponsored corporatism that a mixed economy breeds.

 

[wwswimming]

I won't go as far to say that the FDA needs to just "go away", but it is in serious need of reform.

the FDA needs to go away and take the USDA with them. at present they're just pimps for the AMA, the pharmaceutical companies, and Monsanto.

e.g. HR 825, the "Food Safety Act". how did we ever get along without that ? how did we survive all those thousands of years without Nancy Pelosi signing a bill that dictates the micro-chipping of a single backyard chicken, subject to penalties of a $1000 a day ?

if Obama signs HR 825 after the Senate version passes, he will have shown his true colors.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So....
Thyroid specialists and endocrinologists recognize that L-thyroxine is superior to desiccated thryoid. What do you folks here know about medicine that causes you to know better?

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: wwswimming

I won't go as far to say that the FDA needs to just "go away", but it is in serious need of reform.

the FDA needs to go away and take the USDA with them. at present they're just pimps for the AMA, the pharmaceutical companies, and Monsanto.

e.g. HR 825, the "Food Safety Act". how did we ever get along without that ? how did we survive all those thousands of years without Nancy Pelosi signing a bill that dictates the micro-chipping of a single backyard chicken, subject to penalties of a $1000 a day ?

if Obama signs HR 825 after the Senate version passes, he will have shown his true colors.

I assume theres a good reason for being able to track chickens, a potential source of bird flu, botulism, etc. Finding the source of a problem quickly is key to containing outbreaks of health problems.

Improving food safety and requiring "home remedies" to prove their efficacy and safety, particularly if they are being sold for profit, are reasonable things for the government to do.

 

[tw1164]

Originally posted by: wwswimming

I won't go as far to say that the FDA needs to just "go away", but it is in serious need of reform.

the FDA needs to go away and take the USDA with them. at present they're just pimps for the AMA, the pharmaceutical companies, and Monsanto.

e.g. HR 825, the "Food Safety Act". how did we ever get along without that ? how did we survive all those thousands of years without Nancy Pelosi signing a bill that dictates the micro-chipping of a single backyard chicken, subject to penalties of a $1000 a day ?

if Obama signs HR 825 after the Senate version passes, he will have shown his true colors.

Do you mean HR 875? HR 825 is about rural education. It doesn't really matter, you're totally wrong about HR 875 anyways. Unless you're running a slaughterhouse in your backyard, You'll be able to keep your un-chipped chickens in your backyard as long as you want.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
In 1976, US banned the use of Sassafras root in food because of its carcinogenic properties. Sassafras root had been used in production of Root Beer and Birch Beer for years before 1976. For me Root Beer has not tasted the same.

Personally, I would rather the FDA do its job the try to make the food and drugs we use as safe as possible.

There's an Amish store here that sells the real deal.

Mmm, good...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Heh what's funny too is the "patented" OP comment. Levothyroxine has been generic for years and is cheaper than Armour thyroid.

I love internet "doctors"

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
So....
Thyroid specialists and endocrinologists recognize that L-thyroxine is superior to desiccated thryoid. What do you folks here know about medicine that causes you to know better?

Because they want to rail against the government, despite not knowing what the fuck they are talking about. It's the way of life for internet cowards.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Heh what's funny too is the "patented" OP comment. Levothyroxine has been generic for years and is cheaper than Armour thyroid.

I love internet "doctors"

My mistake, no mention of patent in either article. Precedent is set though. And I'm not playing doctor. But hell, if all the doctors and specialists say so they must be right.