FD Mazda RX-7 Auto-X

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Video... explanation far below for those that don't want to spoil the vid:

http://www.teamjamoto.com/dixeregionpage.htm#v8301600















































Summary: he bought a set of dedicated wheels for his track tires; the tire shop gave him the wrong lugs; you can see the result.

I was working across the track at another corner when it happened. It was not pretty.

I was just hitting redline when I got to that slalom, so he was going at least 40 or 45 mph when that happened. It pretty much sucked.
They were tight when he put them on, the car passed tech inspection.

The explanation was given to me by people who are far more mechanically inclined than me, e.g. they bring their race cars to SCCA events in covered trailers.

Apparently the threads on the wheel studs were different than the threads on the lugs. The felt tight because some portions of the threads were in contact with the lugs and sufficient to hold the wheel on when the car was stationary or moving slowly.

However, as soon as the car reached a certain speed, enough force was generated to rip the threads out of the lugs; the threads in the lugs themselves were stripped out of the lugs are were laying on the track and stuck to the guy's new Toyos.

The example given to me was of an old car whose wheels actually rusted to the hubs; you can beat the wheels with a mallet and shake the car back and forth and the wheels won't come off, but you can then drive the car slowly and they will loosen enough that they can be removed.

I suppose that a really experienced racer (like the guys that figured out what happened) might have recognized that the lugs were wrong, but weekend amateurs- like me- would probably assume that the lugs were OK as long as you could torque them to the proper setting and they felt like they were properly affixed.

Bummer for the car, it was really, really nice- pristine condition. Hopefully the tire company owns up to its mistake and does the right thing so he can get the car back on the road.
 

Aikouka

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Heh, reminds me of the one time I didn't torque my lug nuts down enough :p.

Based on the explanation, sounds like he ended up stripping or just mangling the hub bolts. You can just take those out though... can't you? I know I could get them out on the ol' Talon but I don't know if that's normal :p.
 

natto fire

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Ouch.

I have seen a Mustang lose one wheel at an Auto-X event, but never anything like that. I like how they are accounting for the lug nuts so there will not be any debris for the next person to run, typical SCCA attitude. :thumbsup:
 

HiTek21

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Wow I was not expecting that. I was expecting the engine to explode or the guy to slam into a wall.
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Ouch.

I have seen a Mustang lose one wheel at an Auto-X event, but never anything like that. I like how they are accounting for the lug nuts so there will not be any debris for the next person to run, typical SCCA attitude. :thumbsup:

hey, the show has to go on, someone has to keep it going, heh. but yeah, that's why I don't bother much w/ scca... I'm not competitive really, I do it for fun.

oh, and OUCH! I think my stomach turned
 

BoomerD

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obligatiory "That'll buff right out."

Kind of odd for him to lose all 4 at once. SOMEONE fcked up pretty badly. You'd think he could tell if he had the wrong thread pattern/pitch when he put the lug nuts on the studs...doesn't take a rocket scientist to feel the extra resistance.
 

Gilligansdingy

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Yeah, that guy is a moron. Its not hard to tell when you have the incorrect bolt/nut combination. I do not see the tire company as being at fault unless they installed the tires. If he installed them, then its his fault.
 

BabaBooey

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Jan 21, 2001
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Now thats funny....:laugh::beer:



Damn they told these RTYPE lugnuts would add 15+ H.P. !!!!



That had to be extremely embarrassing....
 

radioouman

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hahahahahaha that was awesome!!!

I didn't expect all four wheels to come off at once! hahahahaha