FCC to limit volume on commercials

Modelworks

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Thank you, thank you , thank you !
I am so tired of commercials that sound like they are trying to break the speakers on my tv. I sometimes can't hit the mute button fast enough.




http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124475706604107803.html
Some members of Congress want broadcasters to turn down the volume on television commercials.

A bill sponsored by U.S. Rep. Anna Eshoo (D., Calif.) would require the U.S. Federal Communications Commission to "preclude commercials from being broadcast at louder volumes than the program material they accompany."

Broadcasters say they are addressing the problem already. "The major television broadcast networks, including ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox, are each, individually, implementing policies that attempt to control loud commercials," said David Donovan, president of the Association for Maximum Service Television, a broadcast industry trade group, speaking at a hearing Thursday before the House Energy and Commerce Telecommunications Subcommittee.

Mr. Donovan said Rep. Eshoo's bill could slow TV stations' voluntary efforts to control commercial volumes because any FCC proceeding would generate debate and uncertainty.

"I can assure you that the industry is motivated to act," said NBC Universal Principal Engineer and Audio Architect Jim Starzynksi, also at the hearing. Final review of an industry standard on commercial volume is expected in July, and broadcasters could begin implementing it by fall, he said.
 

Aharami

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YES! I will no longer have to scramble to hit the mute button at every commercial break
 

Tobolo

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Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Awesome. FX is SOOOO bad at this.

Thats the one I have the most problems with. Although I don't believe the commercials are overly loud, the movies are just super quiet.

I have to have the volume twice as loud to hear on Fx.
 

geno

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They're about 15 years late, but I guess better nate than lever.
 

rivan

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Wow, thank goodness.

Whatever happened to the TVs that were being developed with volume normalizing years ago?
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: Tobolo
Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Awesome. FX is SOOOO bad at this.

Thats the one I have the most problems with. Although I don't believe the commercials are overly loud, the movies are just super quiet.

I have to have the volume twice as loud to hear on Fx.

There is a max volume level that material can be at and the station still broadcast it without clipping. These commercials optimize the audio so that it is as close to that level as possible without going over.

A easy fix for this is to take one half of the maximum and require that commercials normalize around that and cannot peak to near maximum levels and remain there.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: rivan
Wow, thank goodness.

Whatever happened to the TVs that were being developed with volume normalizing years ago?

The problem with volume normalizers is that they look for spikes in audio that last for a second or two. When a program goes loud and stays loud it can 'sneak' by the filters.
 

Cogman

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Originally posted by: rivan
Wow, thank goodness.

Whatever happened to the TVs that were being developed with volume normalizing years ago?

Some of the newer televisions have it already. I believe my parents Visio has that feature in it, you just have to dig for it and explicitly turn it on.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: rivan
Wow, thank goodness.

Whatever happened to the TVs that were being developed with volume normalizing years ago?

Mine has some "perfect volume" feature that doesn't work for squat.
 

sao123

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well maybe if u guys would stop getting up to pee during commercials then they wouldnt have to max volume the commercials...

its very important that you see/hear their commercials. They have to pay for the shows you are watching somehow.

you are just encouraging the companies to come up with ways to force you to watch the commercials.

 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: sao123
well maybe if u guys would stop getting up to pee during commercials then they wouldnt have to max volume the commercials...

its very important that you see/hear their commercials. They have to pay for the shows you are watching somehow.

you are just encouraging the companies to come up with ways to force you to watch the commercials.

We don't all keep a piss bucket next to the couch, you know.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: sao123
its very important that you see/hear their commercials.

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jamesbond007

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For a tech-oriented crowd, I'm surprised at all the complaints for 'loud' commercials and such. My circa 2000 27" Panasonic tube TV had "A.I. Sound" that equalized commercials, TV shows, movies, etc without problems. My new Sony LCD panel has 'Steady Sound' that works almost as good, but definitely has better vocals than my Pansonic's technology did. And who the hell watches commercials anymore?!?! Am I the only one that starts 'live' TV programs 15-20 minutes late so I can FFW through commercials? No one here with a DVR or Tivo?

Bueller?
 

FreshCrabLegs

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Originally posted by: Tobolo
Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Awesome. FX is SOOOO bad at this.

Thats the one I have the most problems with. Although I don't believe the commercials are overly loud, the movies are just super quiet.

I have to have the volume twice as loud to hear on Fx.

This. I thought it was just my cable provider (Charter) that had this issue with Fx.
 

sswingle

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Originally posted by: jamesbond007
For a tech-oriented crowd, I'm surprised at all the complaints for 'loud' commercials and such. My circa 2000 27" Panasonic tube TV had "A.I. Sound" that equalized commercials, TV shows, movies, etc without problems. My new Sony LCD panel has 'Steady Sound' that works almost as good, but definitely has better vocals than my Pansonic's technology did. And who the hell watches commercials anymore?!?! Am I the only one that starts 'live' TV programs 15-20 minutes late so I can FFW through commercials? No one here with a DVR or Tivo?

Bueller?

I was thinking the same thing. I rarely get the chance to see a commercial, let alone complain about how loud it may be.