FCC sells America out.

theeedude

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/technology/fcc-new-net-neutrality-rules.html
WASHINGTON — The principle that all Internet content should be treated equally as it flows through cables and pipes to consumers looks all but dead.

Companies like Disney, Google or Netflix will be allowed to pay Internet service providers like Comcast and Verizon for special, faster lanes to send video and other content to their customers under new rules to be proposed by the Federal Communications Commission, the agency said on Wednesday.

The proposed rules are a turnaround for the agency on what is known as net neutrality — the idea that no providers of legal Internet content should be discriminated against in providing their offerings to consumers and that users should have equal access to see any legal content they choose.

FCC chairman Tom Wheeler is a former lobbyist for the cable industry. And here he is killing net neutrality. Shocking, I know.
 

gevorg

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this is how they roll...

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mizzou

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I'm a little confused. How can Disney have a wider pipeline to send me data when my data line is now being constricted by Disney?
 

Jimzz

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Thanks Obama...


Sadly both Dem's and Rep's are fully onboard with this. Those that worked at the FCC are now lobbyists, no matter if they are a D or R. This is pure big business buying off any and everybody that has any power to help them.


http://www.esquire.com/blogs/news/comcast-twc-chart
"Five registered lobbyists at Comcast have spent time at the FCC. One of the last FCC Commissioners is one of them. One chart describes it all."
 

Meghan54

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Thanks Obama...


Right....as if this didn't exist under Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan.

Think about it, when Reagan stated he'd hire business people to run gov't agencies to "cut waste" and "increase efficiency", who the hell do you think he put in charge? Same lot of people that were lobbying those same agencies before, or left to join the companies that lobbied their specific agencies.

It's been happening for decades, so to single out Obama as the singular culprit is ludicrous and rather narrow minded.....but your simple comment is not surprising.
 

boomerang

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Right....as if this didn't exist under Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan.
Lighten up. I wasn't serious. My point, which didn't need to be made is that there will be no outrage directed towards the current regime. You fell right into line with it too. You went back in time to single out the dead guy that is being blamed for everything that is currently bad in the country. :thumbsup:
 

Newell Steamer

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It's OK - because the corporations will ensure they deliver what we pay for. And, they will self regulate, etc. etc.

You guys need to stop expecting the government to take care of everything and trust the entities focused on making obscene profits to ensure you get the best customer service and product ever!
 

fskimospy

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The fundamental fault for this lies with Congress and every President that hasn't signed legislation to regulate the internet like a utility. We all know it's a utility, it operates under effectively government sanctioned monopolies like a utility, just accept that it is one and bring these leeches to heel.
 

thraashman

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Lighten up. I wasn't serious. My point, which didn't need to be made is that there will be no outrage directed towards the current regime. You fell right into line with it too. You went back in time to single out the dead guy that is being blamed for everything that is currently bad in the country. :thumbsup:
It appears we have the courts to thank actually, not the FCC.
From the wikipedia on Net Neutrality.

On January 14, 2014, the DC Circuit Court determined in Verizon Communications Inc. v. Federal Communications Commission (2014) that the FCC has no authority to enforce Network Neutrality rules, as service providers are not identified as "common carriers".
 

Sonikku

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Stop being jelly and make your own internet infrastructure. Then you can let people stream netflix for free all you want.
 

Attic

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Another ruling that goes against the will of the majority in order to serve the minority, all in the name of $$$.

Wonder how this happens time and again when the big corps own the courts and congress. Unfortunately the big corps have most of American by the balls b/c everybody won't stop spending habits enriching these big corps.
 

theeedude

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Fortunately Google Fiber is coming to my area in next expansion :) I wish we had municipal broadband though.
 

spidey07

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Awesome ruling. Advancing the Internet and providing high quality of service for applications that require it. Government getting out of the way of the technological advancement of the Internet. You REALLY don't want the government to control the Internet, that's a terrible idea.

Great day indeed.
 

Newell Steamer

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Awesome ruling. Advancing the Internet and providing high quality of service for applications that require it. Government getting out of the way of the technological advancement of the Internet. You REALLY don't want the government to control the Internet, that's a terrible idea.

Great day indeed.

Agreed - nothing ensures you get the best of anything, unless it's a privately owned entity, who is dedicated to increase profits.

Even though we currently have the worst internet speeds, but the highest profits, I am sure that is nothing more than liberals bending and skewing the financials of these ISPs.
 

BoberFett

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If the internet is not a utility, then Comcast needs to renegotiate what they're paying people to run their cables through people's private property. Because they certainly shouldn't be running a private service over easements designed for utilities.
 

unokitty

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Goodbye, Net Neutrality; Hello, Net Discrimination
In 2007, at a public forum at Coe College, in Iowa, Presidential candidate Barack Obama was asked about net neutrality. Specifically, “Would you make it a priority in your first year of office to reinstate net neutrality as the law of the land? And would you pledge to only appoint F.C.C. commissioners that support open Internet principles like net neutrality?”

“The answer is yes,” Obama replied. “I am a strong supporter of net neutrality.” Explaining, he said, “What you’ve been seeing is some lobbying that says that the servers and the various portals through which you’re getting information over the Internet should be able to be gatekeepers and to charge different rates to different Web sites…. And that I think destroys one of the best things about the Internet—which is that there is this incredible equality there.”

How's that Hope and Change working for you now?
 

thraashman

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Goodbye, Net Neutrality; Hello, Net Discrimination


How's that Hope and Change working for you now?

Considering the FCC was only complying with this court ruling. Which was presided over by Senior Circuit Judge Laurence H. Silberman and Judges Judith Ann Wilson Rogers and David S. Tatel. Two Clinton appointees and one Reagan appointee, we pretty much can't blame Obama at all. But if you'd like to blame a Democrat, Clinton deserves the greater share it appears.

Also
In January 2014, in response to the ruling, the petition campaign, which urged the President Obama to direct the FCC to reclassify ISPs as "common carriers," was launched on the White House's petition site. It received more than 105,000 signatures. On 18 February, 2014, the Obama administration replied to the petition. It stated that although the president Obama "vigorously supports" a robust, free and open Internet, he was not able to direct the FCC to do that because the FCC is an independent agency.

From what I gather the President has as much authority to direct the FCC to do something as he would to direct a federal judge to rule in a certain manner.